Right. But he did bench him. Which is what I said.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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We already look so much improved, adding him will really take us multiple levels up from the last couple of seasons
Everything you say is fine and dandy. So based on that FDJ says, you know what... I might stay. See he would be paid 18 mil Euros this year and 27 mil Euros next year.
Barca can not afford that but it is exactly what FDJ contact says he will be paid.
So my expectation is that Barca will realize they have to give him a payout and then FDJ will be a United player. It is all who blinks first right now imho.
because he didn't want the signing in the first place.
Then he realised Eriksen could play there, unbenched him (in a deeper position) , and won the league
That's in case he really doesn't want to leave.
The clause, however, would have been of tremendous help, if FdJ indeed wanted to join United.
The negligence of his agent/lawyer will come into play, if in fact FdJ wants to join another club before his deferred wages have been payed up.
Yes this is an increasing perception which is worrying in terms of our new managers outlook... what if he doesn't get FDJ?
Does ETH go into a darkened room and lie down with a wet towel on his face and tell Steve McClaren its all yours Steve!
Covid also wasn't de Jong's fault and it's absolutely the club's responsibility to prepare for financially more difficult periods, which is why such wage deferrals were quite rare in other clubs.
Also, de Jong earned 3 million in fixed salary out of base 14 in 19/20 and 9 out of 14 in 20/21. This is much bigger deferral than the covid financial hit alone would suggest
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I must admit at first I thought his agent had been negligent but thinking about it the clause isn't necessary when the player wants to stay. If Barca want to get rid then that's the price of doing it. Fundamentally the transfer system hugely benefits the clubs most of the time so they can't just rip up contracts when the shoe is on the other foot.
I thought it's well established that staying at Barcelona is not some sort of a nightmare scenario for de Jong and while it may not be the only acceptable option for him it definitely is one of them.
Probably preferred as well considering he’s wanted to play for them since he was a small kid and Cruyff was his idol.
Yea, if it wasn't for Barcelona's financial situation and efforts to push him out this transfer saga likely would have never gotten off the ground.
Imagine him in the deep midfield role just dictating the game.
We'd be so good. I've been adamant on this forum for years we should sign de Jong and I'm really excited it seems like it might happen. One of my favourite players around at the moment.
We'd be so good. I've been adamant on this forum for years we should sign de Jong and I'm really excited it seems like it might happen. One of my favourite players around at the moment.
We'd completely dominate possession and never see our back four get tested. It'd be incredibly boring.
This is a ridiculous take.
He has said he has targets for the deep role. If that doesn't happen he will develop from within. He isn't worried like some here.
needs to get in on this
This is an odd statement. We’re talking about a sports franchise and what they’re doing is not normal. In fact I don’t recall this happening in any other sport.
Exactly my point, if he had told us clearly no we wouldn’t be chasing still.
Doesn’t need to be public. The club and the manager are in contact with the player and his team. They know what’s going on, and frankly as much as we like to follow the fans don’t need to know.
I would like us to sign FDJ if the wages get sorted out. I personally do think he's open to the move but he wants the wages he deferred. Those wages weren’t donated to the club so it makes sense to me that he’s stalling until that mess is sorted out. I don’t want United on the hook for a portion of those wages in any way.
No!
His other option is to stay on his present contract, and see it out until 2026.
If he picks this option there is nothing Barca can do about it.
The ball is in his court.
If you're speaking about financing future revenues, it's entirely normal. Financing and structuring of financing happen in many ways the difference here is that we are getting inside details.
United took an upfront payment from Adidas for future merchandise sales for instance, not the same but just to give you a bit of context that some of the things happening here are not as wild as being made out.
Another normal thing that has happened in football is for a club to take out a loan based on future transfer revenue being paid in installments so they can spend it now, a lot of financial instruments are used in football
What is unprecedented here is that Barcelona due to poor managements and some silly mistakes in writing down assets (not understanding FFP) ending up with a 500m+ loss in one of its financial years, but its a crazy number because they didn't actually lose 500+m, it was just the way they chose to run their books for that season which has had negative consequences (they did lose a lot of money though, but not 500m+).
There did seem to be a lot of peer pressure at the club whilst all this was happened. Barca leaned on the players to ‘do the right thing’ and should now reciprocate with Frenkie.
As long as you also remember that the song is about anal penetration.
Taking out a loan is normal, but Barcelona could not get a conventional loan because of their precarious financial situation - nobody would touch them.
They have resorted selling off portions of the club (business) and future revenue to bring in cash now - this is extrodinary and I cannot think of an example from another major sport.
As for the kit deal example you mentioned, a better analogy would be United selling 25 years of kit revenue to a third party at some rate agreed today (to then turn around and blow every penny of it in a week). Their supporters should be absolutely furious, and Laporta should be ashamed.
No it doesn't
Intent is to discredit the BS from Sport the last few days.
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That's the one.
Will be the same for a while I think. Another couple of weeks with little to no movement I'd bet
My thinking exactly.
"Nobody has tweeted about De Jong lately, this should generate some clicks"
That's pretty much how journos think... anything for the traffic and clicks. Even if they're wrong they claim it as opinion
But I think any sane player would not forgo millions when they have a contract. Even if Barca successfully force de Jong to accept their terms doesn't mean that others will accept it
As you were
Watching the preseason only makes me want him more, we'd be a dominant possession team with him in midfield
sums up the past 400 pages !I know, this just makes it even more relevant!
I wonder if Barcas lever activation enables them to buy Silva on top of their other signings and register him whilst keeping de Jong?
I'd say it's unlikely to be fair, so I'm guessing Barca is against the clock now if they want Silva.
Wouldn't be surprised if their economic levers enable them to buy Twitter at this point
Did they? I thought we signed to a ten year deal and Adidas paid annually (from the start)?
How much did Adidas pay us then?
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