They are selling off TV rights (over 25 year period )for a short term cash injection.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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the barca money man literally said FFP requires FDJ to be sold. why do we keep ignoring that?
I think he’s using it as an excuse personally. From what I understand I don’t think his sale is strictly necessary.
https://www.espn.in/football/barcel...ByAb201uwSye1RdPjDR1PpvIxQtRcbe50lulUcvzpxIgY
Explained in great detail here.
They are selling of image rights, tv rights, signing sponsorships... all to raise money in the hope they can keep kicking the can down the road.
They are due to receive a 320m cash injection this week apparently and it allows them to balance the books a little to ensure new players are registered, Romero is reporting the same.
Martinez done. Full focus on Frenkie now. Let’s see! 
why would they even need to say it if it isn’t true? it makes no sense.
I wouldn’t even be surprised if Barca know themselves. seems like they’ve just gone YOLO and splashed even more money and will worry about it later
The first one was to balance the books. The second one is so they have cash to spend.
Not if you look at it from the point of view that the new contract he's signed is for £700k a week from the point it started. What happened before is irrelevant.
And it's cash for more than one year.
Look at what he and Laporta said. They contradicted each other.
They are pushing the narrative to attempt to force him out.
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When you're 1.3b in debt, everything is balancing the books
I say balance anyway with the -144m la liga limit in mind. The 320m will go some way to helping lower that amount and give wiggle room to sign players and keep within the FFP to register players.
Ideally they'd like to be rid of FDJ as we can see, but... there's little else they can do to force that other than have him warm the bench and then pay him.
The crap part about all this is, Barca is doing all they can to ensure that Frenkie is pushed out and in such a way they don't want to pay him what he's owed. He's rightfully refusing to go until he's payed what he's owed and this is causing a huge stalemate.
I see this ending with him leaving but in a very very messy way, being portrayed as a money hungry mercenary who doesn't value the club at all and is very money focused
I see this ending with him leaving but in a very very messy way, being portrayed as a money hungry mercenary who doesn't value the club at all and is very money focused
Yeah I dont think its as black and white, as incompetent as barca are. However, its a fact that he is one of their highest paid players, so it would be a great help if he left. And he wont even be a guaranteed starter with Kessie coming in. Though possible, it would be a very weird situation if he stayed. If I was a bookmaker i'd put longer odds on him staying tbf
First one didnt balance the book to 1:1. This one will do that. Now they can spend whatever they earn after second round of levers
But he may not leave this summer. The figures are large enough that a quick solution isn't obvious.
I do not remember any transfer that's dragged out like this ever works out for the buying club.
We should work on the alternatives pronto. Like in panic mode! Instead of digging our heads in the sand and hoping for the improbable.
We should work on the alternatives pronto. Like in panic mode! Instead of digging our heads in the sand and hoping for the improbable.
He was 2/1 to leave yesterday, he's evens today.
But what will happen when that money is gone and they're in the same situation again? Do they just keep selling stuff off until there is nothing left to sell?
If de Jong goes it obviously gives them a cash injection from United and wipes a lot of wages off the books. So it makes sense for him to go when you look at it like that
Come on Memphis, tell him how great Manchester is.
They „sold“ some part of future revenues, which means the salary cap will be higher
Why are Barca in such a hurry to get rid of him then? Is it a case of cash in whilst his value is high, or are they just trying to free up funds and FFP for other signings, which shouldn't be needed with these levers?
Cash flow to do the deals will be available, the trick is whether they can stay within the league wage cap. That is the main reason they want to sell frenkie
Isn't 85M euros a large enough figure for Barca to eventually relent with paying him 17M euros? At that point it's either 68M euros or nothing and a 600k a week player on the books.
Surely they will eventually give him his money instead of risking that?
This is why it baffles me that they are spending so heavily. They are banking on success to increase revenue to minimise the loss due to these deals. But its a risky way of doing things because if it didnt work in next few years, then their revenue will be less and they wont have the money to buy new stars.
Yes, the 2nd lever allows them to be registered (within the cap).
Do you think they are make 2 more signings in Silva and Kounde without selling a player? Cause like I said they ve already spent €115-130 in wages and fees. If they add 2 more in Silva and Kounde that’s another €150m in wages and fees.
So they're banking on a good CL run, high La Liga finish etc? If they don't get that, then they're screwed?
You know on LOST, Des had to keep pressing the buttons otherwise things go wrong? It’s like that, Laporte has to pull Levers under the stadium in a secret room. When they do, it stops the stadium disappearing but also it releases a leprechauns pot of gold for finance. Barca have a special scout team which has been scouring the world to find and retrieve them
His wage is only increasing, Barcelona aren't creating new money but borrowing future earnings, De Jong would be new money and he isn't necessary.
May be the new levers include their planned money to bribe the La Liga officials and get by that league wage cap as well.
According to that video he needs to show that he wants to stay so that it becomes evident that he's being pushed out by Barcelona. Thus this will end up as an unfair dismissal and an attempt of breach of contract. Its also the reason to why Laporta is stating that they want FDJ to stay despite its evident that they want him out. Its within the lines (although different) why players who clearly want out would often refuse to handle a transfer request. That's because once they do that, they often forfeit to any transfer fee bonus clauses they might have within their contract
Irrespective of that United are going into a territory that goes beyond to what any club should be comfortable to be in. Unless we're ready to step in and pay any differed salaries, in full, (which would set a dangerous precedent on our part) then we should walk out. I am also bewildered that AFA ( Spanish Footballers' Association) has not stepped in yet. Its scandalous that a club like Barca is allowed to sign new players while concurrently doing their very best not to pay their current players what's due.
I don’t think that’s accurate. Having more cash flow doesn’t equate to more wage cap. Wage cap is set by the league
They've made the statement based on signings thus far, up to Lewandowski.
For Silva & Kounde to arrive also I assume they would need to sell / raise further funds to register absolutely.
it’s what people do when they have been crying
Black eye after refusing to leave?
The wage cap is set by the league yes, but logically that would fluctuate on a clubs financials.
There is a figure constantly quoted of -144m, if Barca get enough cash in then logically that would move towards the green and give room to sign players & manage the wage bill.
Explained in great detail here. Ideally they want rid of course but what can they do? Drop him to the bench? Reserves? If he doesn't leave, not much else they can do.
https://www.espn.in/football/barcel...F9d5Orkb2i5CDLt6QdYSl6RvMURMLFdKdqa-5tnpzgyI0
Yeah I believe that Bernardo would be only if Frenkie goes.
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