And you didn't share an example of the rules being bent but of a preexisting league wide rule being applied.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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And you didn't share an example of the rules being bent but of a preexisting league wide rule being applied.
I'm sure we've got some alternatives lined up in event of an emergency like Tielemans and Neves. I like Sangare and Nunes personally but I'm not sure if they're on the club's radar. Both would be quality additions though.
If we pull the plug on the deal does that mean Barca are fecked without the 70 million or whatever it is?
I know we (United) can hardly talk but Barca's fall from grace has been astonishing to witness really. They've become Real Madrid in the way they operate...just without the success.
I know we (United) can hardly talk but Barca's fall from grace has been astonishing to witness really. They've become Real Madrid in the way they operate...just without the success.
It will because we've lost 2 CM's. Relying on McFred for the entire season and expecting neither to get injured would be ridiculous (plus both are questionable in quality)
Neves on his own would be a fecking disaster alongside Fred. We would get mauled by any half decent midfield. Neves will cost more than frankie and we will have to buy another midfielder to make up for his shortcomings of being slow, immobile with the ball and getting trapped any time he steps forward.
Proper tiresome, this. No way to run transfer business. If there's something to sort out, just sort it already. Or move to alternatives. Just don't let us start next season without another central midfielder besides what we have now.
No.
People who think barca are really risking their entire transfer window on one sale are living in La La Land.
I can't answer your question because I'm not privy to what's going on behind the scenes, away from public eyes. Barca have made a derogatory offer of €3m and write off the rest according to reports, but de Jong has rejected that. I can't tell you whether they'll fully bow to his demands and neither can anyone here.
I do believe this is on, because United believe this is still on, and whilst an agreed fee is on the table there is nothing to suggest that the deal is off. If or when we brief otherwise, I'll believe its over. Until then it's on
Do you think it’s possible he’ll leave USA to go to England while the tour is ongoing?
Barcelona haven’t changed. They’ve always been exactly like this, the PR just ran out
Players the board want to sell Vs the players Xavi wants to sell.
Well actually I did.
Didn't another club try exactly the same thing days later for the same reasons Barca gave and were denied?
Absolute bonkers by the club if we don't get him, we'll then go for Neves and Wolves will have us over a barrel.
They do sound pretty desperate for money. I'm not saying they can't get it elsewhere but FDJ is the obvious player that could fetch a huge price.
Yet we know they want to sell him as they have literally accepted an offer
You earned that tagline
The only way this deal could possibly happen is if somebody was to invent some kind of magic flying metal bird that can get from the USA to England in around 12 hours.
Alas, we need a pair of brothers, maybe from Ohio, to work it out.
I hope we don’t sign Neves
Same, think he's average and would end up an expensive mistake.
I’d imagine it’s his agents dealing with Barca rather than Frenkie himself. Once a deal is struck he can easily jump on a plane to the uk. The club would probably charter a private one to pick him up.
Pogba played what, 20 games? And got 4 of his 9 assists in the first game. Scored one goal - not a huge loss in my opinion.
Who's the other? Pereira?
VDB has come back in, with a familiar manager and he's obviously not a bad player, could be like a new signing!
Eriksen can play in midfield, as can Martinez. Iqbal and Garner could make a few appearances.
Don't get me wrong, I think it's still extremely light and our weakest area but if we play better as a team, overall this team is capable of doing well without anyone else. I think the right coaching can take us up as much of a level as a new signing. I would love FDJ or a similar player to come in though.
Possible yes.
He's not even angling for new contract. And has been adamant from day 1. I don't think he's that cnutish either. Not one player has did this as far as i know.
Using rumors for contracts yes..but this is something else if true
According to some, Neves is the key to an amazing midfield... oh don't forget Tielemans too. People seem to be obsessed with them two.
No. The other club(Leganes) weren't victim of long term injuries.
It makes no difference. There's no end date specified there, so at what point are United going to (finally) come to terms with this wage issue being too big a problem to overcome? There's too many dates being thrown about but none of those change the reality. If the issue could be sorted, now's the time for it to be done.
Can I ask how you know this to be true?
De Jong’s legal counsel would have seen the benefit of drafting an extended contract to reflect the €17m as earned but deferred compensation vs a new higher wage obligation (especially since that’s what the fact pattern supports). Unless some one has reported (credibly) the actual structure of Frenkie’s contract, I would argue that it should be assumed that it is actually structured as a deferral and not simply being described that way as a convenient “shorthand” of the press to explain a contractual term.
Do you think it’s likely?
I don’t know when their tour lasts until but I would guess September 1st
Already been mentioned in here but Oleksandr Zinchenko has been announced as a part of Manchester City's tour squad in the United States. It's not a guarantee that the player will stay.
Neves is a marked improvement on what we currently have. He isn't FDJ granted, but he'll improve us.
He won't cost more than FDJ, he's 2 years left on his deal. He'd be €60m / £50M max.
They're not fecked. They can sell players anytime they want. Clubs will que up. It's not the end of the world.
They surely wont play hard to get if that's the matter.
It's not like we're lowballing them. 75m is a good price.
Matic is the other. Make no mistake going into this season with only mcfred and a bunch of youth would be fecking suicide for our hopes. Vdb has looked like trash and can't pin our hopes on playing others out of position. Our midfield right now is midtable quality at best
I think it unlikely he signs in that time. I think it will drag on a little longer.
I've just posted it but Zinchenko is due to travel with City's tour squad in the United States, despite it being reliably reported that Arsenal are close to signing him.
Convenient they scrapped the ruling right after hey.
Close the doors, nothing to see here. No preferential Barca treatment.
Not necessarily. As far as I’m aware they aren’t trying to ship out Biscuits, Ter Stegen or Pique. Presumably those contracts are easier to honour than Frenkies.
Ah embarrassing of me to forget about Matic. Definitely very light in that midfield then.
Don't see why we go for Neves when you can throw a stone at any PL training ground and be sure to hit a better player for a fraction of the price. Neves is hands down the most overrated player on the CAF and I have to believe ETH is smarter than the posters in here.
Have they agreed a fee though?
In this case Barcelona have agreed to a deal and will no longer have to negotiate for more money.
It seems in their best interest to keep him injury free and protect his value
In most cases a fee isn’t agreed fully yet and taking the player on your can force the buying club to raise their offer. Leaving them at home would affect their value
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