Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Wouldn’t say it’s pointless if they are confirming they want him gone and he’s refused to accept a reduced pay contract?
Quite important really
Barca or money he chose money. Poor barca.
Surely the deferred wages issue is nothing to do with us? If Barca and de Jong agree to terminate the contract that's between them. Otherwise they will have to keep him.
If Barca agree to pay FDJ, I'm sure an agreement could be reached..
If paying him off doesnt count towards their wages, they can do it themselves.. If it does, I'm sure we can set a lower transfer fee and pay FDJ from our side.
And I thought he was willing to play for free because of how much he loves Barca and playing for them 
Couldn't we just sign another midfielder who could both cover and complement de Jong, feigning that we're tired of Barca messing us around?
Seems like a relatively easy way to put pressure on Barca along with insuring we have a more workable midfield next season even if the de Jong transfer collapses.
We have just lost two midfielders after all, and it's not like we'd have to break the bank to improve upon what's available in the squad.
Doesn't have to be so black or white, de Jong or bust, and would give us more options.
Seems like a relatively easy way to put pressure on Barca along with insuring we have a more workable midfield next season even if the de Jong transfer collapses.
We have just lost two midfielders after all, and it's not like we'd have to break the bank to improve upon what's available in the squad.
Doesn't have to be so black or white, de Jong or bust, and would give us more options.
When did the use of "tiers" in regards to reporters start? And how are they ranked?
How many ways can you say the same thing ? This is getting a bit boring TBH
Once the wages owed situation is resolved, Chelsea will get the transfer done within about 5 mins.
What makes you think that Oldtraffordboy?
Di Marzio saying Barca are looking at options to keep him, personally, I think staying should be at the bottom of the agenda for FDJ. I don’t think he starts in the new Barca Midfield where they are attempting to replicate Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets trio.
At the moment they have Pedri, Gavi, Busquets with Kessi coming in to back up the defensive aspect and Puig on the bench for depth, they are stacked and FDJ has for the majority been playing out of position.
At the moment they have Pedri, Gavi, Busquets with Kessi coming in to back up the defensive aspect and Puig on the bench for depth, they are stacked and FDJ has for the majority been playing out of position.
We have been mucking about with de Ligt for a month. Had the chance to sign him, but kept going for the reduced amount and invited Bayern in to run up the price. We have not been quick about any targets so far.
I will believe the de Jong interest when English journos start the parade of tweets.
I just checked -- Sophie Rose hasn't even mentioned it either. Has to be fake too.
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It would make too much sense for the morons in charge of our transfer dealings
I think pride is also getting in the way for Barca. They really are that stupid. They don’t want to appear weak when they are in actual shambles.
This must mean Frenkie is definitely off to a new club, if Barca cant even paid owed wages.
Them wanting him gone isnt the issue though is it. The issue is them finding the money they need to pay him.
De Jong might have a case for saying that Barca have breached their contract by acting in such bad faith. In which case he could sign on a free and recover the money that way. UEFA would then have to step in.
Won't they need to pay him regardless of what happens? Stay or leave, he's still owed the money.
Well, I mean, they have to keep us strung along somehow don't they... just reword it a little and class it as new info.
Still... no one mentioning Chelseas interest which would be a huge factor for us if true
In some ways the United team was smart. They firmed up the price -- guaranteed and add-ons limit. So this way Barca can't now ask United to subsidise the wage deferment owed to Frenkie without any further compromise elsewhere in their agreement.
It will force the issue -- with Barca having to pay up Frenkie based on some calculation since he will not reach the duration of his contract or they have to come to some compromise between Frenkie and Barca.
And if United decides to throw in a few million (to speed things up and help Barca in their cash flow and wage management) they can build that into the add-ons agreement with Barca too.
The reason there isnt much from our club journos as of now, is because there are minimal leaks from our end these days. Not one of our better sources had a clue the flight to Barca was happening, Matt Law reported we were considering entering the Raphinha chase, but none of them had a scooby that we'd actually agreed a fee.
Ziyech deal was the same after January window shut under Lampard's tenure, was reported in Holland before anyone over here had a clue. A lot of the better Chelsea journos actually get their info from the other end... Sterling deal for one
And the fellow Chelsea fans on here will probably confirm that, feck all gets leaked these days
Ziyech deal was the same after January window shut under Lampard's tenure, was reported in Holland before anyone over here had a clue. A lot of the better Chelsea journos actually get their info from the other end... Sterling deal for one
And the fellow Chelsea fans on here will probably confirm that, feck all gets leaked these days
So why have none of the United sources even acknowledged Chelsea’s supposed interest?
With all the stuff coming from Barca I'm sure a Chelsea journo would know. You think they don't save sources within the club that would confirm or deny anything?
The reason they're quiet is because it's crap in my opinion. Of course I might be totally wrong but from past experiences this is usually a negotiation tactic
Very true, you'd think his agent would have told United that Chelsea were getting involved. If that was the case we'd either get a move on and get it done or just pull out and walk away
Yep, feck all gets leaked. No one knew Chelsea were after Havertz or Lukaku?
I guess no one knows that Chelsea are after De Ligt either.
Or even Ronaldo. Nothing gets leaked
Time for ten Hag to look at a list of targets that isn’t Dutch and/or includes players that used to play for him. This is incredibly tedious now and an absolute shocker that we haven’t addressed our piss poor midfield.
Or Raphinha
This is like a never-ending saga 
I don't see what the issue is regarding his pending payment from Barcelona. A lot of employees get trailing payments from their ex employers. It can be done later and doeset bar you from future employemnt opportunities.
Seems both parties are just holding out in an attempt to bore the entire world to death.
Seems both parties are just holding out in an attempt to bore the entire world to death.
This is because Todd Boehly may be the new Ed Woodward and Glaziers rolled into one you had one of the smartest operators in Europe previously who has been let go
Seems to be like an episode of Sunset Beach.This is like a never-ending saga
The more that comes out, the more this situation is really unappealing. 90 minutes is reporting that Barca owes de Jong’s agent money for the restructuring that was done.
Barca’s affairs are all over the place and we seem to be married to them this window.
Barca’s affairs are all over the place and we seem to be married to them this window.
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