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Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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You’re right. feck negotiation, let’s just get rinsed.
Thats likely being taken into account. No one has that granular information but if a tier one journalist is reporting the difference in the De Jong gap is the difference for certain additional targets, it makes sense to be patient.
It does make you think even if they'd been asking the fee we are haggling for now from the start, then we'd still be in the same place trying to get 15 m Euros off, it's just what we do.
“Economic levers” is this summer’s “Nos vamos en Manchester”.
Or we could just see it for what it is which is a journalist stating the obvious (that a big signings means less money for others) and understand said journalist is not likely to have been given information on the targets and the actual budget. We should also notice that said journalist is saying the manager is becoming frustrated with the situation (which the club should see as an important factor)
The actual budget has been briefed and reported by multiple credible journalists across Telegraph Times and Athletic, so you're probably wrong. Or they all are.
I know which one is more likely.
How about we just negotiate quicker
They have reported a few different budgets ranging from 120-150. Some have reported there is no set budget (which is more likely)
There isnt a set budget but there is a rough estimate of appetite. The journalists saying there's no set budget also caveat that sales and availability of certain targets make it tricky to gauge.
120m if im not mistaken is reported by Ducker and Whitwell. The figure is immaterial but the point that they have a better awareness on club appetite than we do still stands.
So yeah it goes back to my point, the gap is likely the difference between certain targets. Maybe a full back, maybe the diff between 1st and 2nd choice Winger. Who knows, but I dont want us to throw what Barcelona want yet.
GoFundMe campaign to raise the extra 10-15m?
I still feel the asking price is fair. He is a very good and proven player. There is currently no equivalent or better player available in the market for the position united is looking for. If we get it slightly cheaper, all good. But I think united should get this done asap and focus on other targets.
Don't even suggest this as a joke mate if Glazers get wind of it they will take advantage of that too.
Not being funny but if 15m euros is the difference. Push the negotiations quicker, and get moving on selling deadwood players to boost the budget. I’m pretty sure we can raise 15m euros from even player loans if we were serious.
Hasnt United been critized for paying overprices for years? Its good that we are getting our integrity back.
Until we actually agree and lock in a fee for other targets….
Tomorrow will be a big day!
How do you force the other party to negotiate quicker? Send in hired goons?
Probably waiting for Ronaldo’s wages to be freed up.
Start offering lower bids? Shave of a million every day.
70 + 10 mill Euros
69 + 9
68 + 8
Or start going after the next target.
70 + 10 mill Euros
69 + 9
68 + 8
Or start going after the next target.
how the feck does that work?
You move towards their price or you walk away
I have no idea how concluding negiations can take a week or a month depending on the aggressiveness and proactiveness of the parties involved. Its as if United have to go at the pace of Barca, well anyone who understands negotiations knows this is false. Make a take it or leave it offer and be done with ithow the feck does that work?
Push negotiations quicker? How?
Loan players? How if no one is going in for them. You're not coming across like you've thought this through
Feyenoordfans did this to sigb Dessers, but it is apparantly against FIFA regulations to accept money in this way.
Which is a bit ironic with the whole countries and oil magnates doing it constantly, but I guess rules are mostly for poor people.
No one wants any of our players is it? Ok
If you really are not going to move from your offer. The other party needs to believe that. Right now they do not because we are still at the table
Is this comment real?
What doesnt work is not having a real alternative target
By summer 2025 we could be on a new manager though.
how the feck does that work?
Send the three amigos.
For the level of club we are, and for the precise type of player DJ is, mixed in with Ten Hag knowing his character, there were never going to be countless like for likes.
Then we are going to buy him which means Barca have zero reason to lower the price. You have to be able to convince the other party you will walk if u want them to move. Or we have to have something else to offer, the price doesnt just magically lower because you wait. You need to instigate it, make alternative offers etc. that is quickening the negotiation
Your point would hold weight if the selling club wouldn’t be in economic turmoil themselves and now have to sell the player to rid some of the financial mess they have put themselves in. So it is known to the whole world the situation they are in, it is perfectly logical to bring the price down for the said player. If we don’t follow it and exploit that then we are the mugs not them.
Or to put it in your way
Imagine a club being in a financial mess and can’t even register players forget signing some more and now have to sell a player who hasn’t been a success for them and is on huge wages and doesn’t even fit the managers style. They must sell that player to not only register the free signings they have done but also to sign their primary target but right now can’t afford it due to their financial situation. A club is interested in that player and ready to pay huge some of money for him. But the selling club still asks for ridiculous
amount even though they are in no position to demand that as they are desperate and must sell themselves. They play a waiting game and the other club get impatient and pay the asking money of €100m knowing fully well the selling club is bluffing as they need to sell him. Who are the idiots in this case ?
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Only the last part. We should offer 70 + 10 and then move on. Let them pay 19 mill in salary next year.
What happens between one rejected round of discussions and another? Always seems like it lasts a month. Whenever we make an offer and it's rejected, it's as though we're paralyzed by the rejection and in need of at least a week to recover mentally before plucking the courage to approach with an improved offer.
No no you can’t negotiate quicker
Exactly this. It only works if they think you are serious
This seems like a foregone conclusion at this point. Barca aren't going to sabotage a 70M deal for 10M if it means they can get their primary targets in the door. They might pretend to for a few weeks though, but they too want players before their pre season starts I reckon.
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