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Frenkie to United?


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This keeps going down in 5m increments. Behind the scenes;

Barcelona - "€85 million"
United - "€65 million"
Barcelona - "€85 million"
United - "€70 million"
Barcelona - "€85 million"
United - "€75 million"
Barcelona - "€85 million..."
United - "fecking nailing this negotiating lark so I am."
Reminds me of the cartoon sketches for Woody going in to buy chocolate in the shop
 
At some point you will have to snap out of your denial. Its hard and takes time but its clear. We are very much on the same level as a Spurs, Arsenal. We are very much Tier 2 in the premier league and potentially tier 3 in europe. If you were to list out all the clubs in Europe in terms of performances, projects and quality id be amazed if we were top 10 or 12.

Whilst United is a massive name and in the past weir tier 1 or literally the top 1, we are a long long way off. Let me provide some context. Since we last won the league Inter, AC Milan have won Serie A two previous fallen giants.

We are in a bad period in our cycle and the problem is, there isn’t much end in sight, unless you accept the current state of world football you will be angry and upset that we can’t compete. Ultimately this all changes if Glazers sell And we get some sugar daddy owner.

I think you have no grasp of the difference between ‘team’ and ‘club’.
 
Im sure that this has got to have been sorted behind the scene - there is no way we are going back and forth quibbling over a little here and there - if there is anything unresolved then it will be in the structure of the payments.

We just need Barca to get Lewandowski signed and then this should all fall into place. Bayern are known for being very difficult to negotiate with but now that they have Mane then the Lewa deal should get sorted. He going to be in big wages is they will need to offload from elsewhere - don’t think they have announced any of their other signings yet either?
 
You know we're all creaming over Modrić when he makes the simple passes and turns....outside foot assists, etc....

Yeah, prepare to do that with De Jong on a regular basis.

He's gonna be the new David Silva.

Be joyfull! Rejoice!

Totally agree with that comparison, however don't you have concerns of us being too lightweight without a DM and getting overrun in games.
 
Totally agree with that comparison, however don't you have concerns of us being too lightweight without a DM and getting overrun in games.
FdJ is miles better than Pogba defensively so I really don't think it'll be that bad, even next to Fred or Mctominay (and some coaching in there). We'll see though.
 
Yeah those two should be squad players, however due to zero numbers in the DM department they get regular games.
They aren’t even DM’s. Matic was our only one.

Fred doesn’t deserve to be attached to McTominay either. Much better player.
 
Fred is a good player. The underrating of him here is ridiculous.
He is also a player who is not strong in retaining possession under pressure. Which is top of the list for what Ten Hag wants in a midfielder
 
They aren’t even DM’s. Matic was our only one.

Fred doesn’t deserve to be attached to McTominay either. Much better player.

Yeah he was, pains me to say to compare us but City have 3 in that department in Rodri, Gundogan & Fernandinho.

Admittedly it looks like the latter two are off this summer but they will definitely replace one of them.
 
:lol: it's a true test or Ten Hag's coaching. Can he teach some positioning and structure to the team, starting with the role of being FdJ's partner.

Can he coach a player how to pass? Because McTominay is shocking at it.
 
He is also a player who is not strong in retaining possession under pressure. Which is top of the list for what Ten Hag wants in a midfielder

So does that suggest he doesn't see a holding player as any kind of necessity in his team
 
So does that suggest he doesn't see a holding player as any kind of necessity in his team
You think a holding player cannot retain possession under pressure? You never watched Carrick or Matic in their prime. Or Rodri and Fabinho? Peak Busquests?
 
Can he coach a player how to pass? Because McTominay is shocking at it.
Eh, Edson Alvarez isn't exactly known for being a good passer but he coached him to work quite well there and keep it simple on the ball.
 
You think a holding player cannot retain possession under pressure? You never watched Carrick or Matic in their prime. Or Rodri and Fabinho? Peak Busquests?

What I meant is De Jong isn't a holding player like them so surely we need to bring one in to complement him
 
What I meant is De Jong isn't a holding player like them so surely we need to bring one in to complement him

I would imagine so yes, they also need to be good in posession and good under pressure though
 
In terms of success no. In terms of size and profile, yes we are. People seem to determined to dismiss that. The man united story attracts a lot of fans…

What do you think is being dismissed here? We have never attracted a similar caliber of players, we don't sell more merchandise and don't have more social media engagement. What metrics are you using to equate United to Real Madrid, here you have an example from 2017, so closer to our successful years?
 
Don’t upset me please.

Yeah, I don't really see the point in getting De Jong just to play them next Mctominay and Fred. Okay no, I do see the point. But it'll be so depressing to get a player of De Jong's calibre just to play them next to those two. Coaching isn't a magic wand, it won't give Mctominay technique or football IQ haha. I sure hope we get at least two other midfielders alongside De Jong.
 
Yeah, I don't really see the point in getting De Jong just to play them next Mctominay and Fred. Okay no, I do see the point. But it'll be so depressing to get a player of De Jong's calibre just to play them next to those two. Coaching isn't a magic wand, it won't give Mctominay technique or football IQ haha. I sure hope we get at least two other midfielders alongside De Jong.
We have other midfielders in the squad
 

Logic. Quite pissing about and get the deals done
 
We have other midfielders in the squad

Are we relying on Garner or Hanibal being good enough to be a first XI player? I mean, that would be lovely and all, but maybe a bit unlikely?

Or were you thinking of Van de Beek? What a story that would be - Ten Hag comes in and Van de Beek becomes a world class midfielder.
 
Are we relying on Garner or Hanibal being good enough to be a first XI player? I mean, that would be lovely and all, but maybe a bit unlikely?

Or were you thinking of Van de Beek? What a story that would be - Ten Hag comes in and Van de Beek becomes a world class midfielder.

I would back Ten Hag to get alot more out of VDB than Ole. Garner is better than McTominay
 
just makes way too much sense and would immediately strengthen us both in terms of quality and quantity. The club really needs to stop arsing around and give ETH something to work with.
What should the club do? In your eyes
 
Not buying it for a minute and how you believe a stupid statement is logical is quite baffling in itself .
I believe it is logical. Not that ETH told the journo that :rolleyes:
 
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