A game of chicken.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Seen this before…
Well it was found to be illegal later on and there was Barcagate going on at the same time which led to the ex-club presidents arrest.
That club absolutely isn't above criminal activity
No prizes for guessing who will blink first....
Missing piece? I think it’s rather the first piece…
Agree with you, but suspect there is a funding issue with us. ETH wants FDJ as the priority signing it seems. Then the other signings may be impacted by our much we pay for FDJ.
Do our contract negotiators get paid by hours? Why can't we just set the due date and price to Barca, on take it or leave it deal?
Then everyone then can be clear on things and not wasting anyone's time.
Then everyone then can be clear on things and not wasting anyone's time.
I’ve said it many times, let’s forget big signings who has no interest in joining us this summer, fecking waste of everyone’s time. Let’s focus on the money ball type of signings which only cost peanuts. If the likes of Brighton can build their squad with cheap signings and totally overplay us, we can also do the same with right manager and right type of signings.
Yeah I just mean that isn’t an example of money laundering
It'd not a typical big signing though if it's the managers no.1 request/priority to kickstart the rebuild.
Not exhausting every avenue to try to make it happen would be a poor start for ETH's tenure. Especially when we've proven to go big to back managers in the market during their first transfer window in recent history
Not exhausting every avenue to try to make it happen would be a poor start for ETH's tenure. Especially when we've proven to go big to back managers in the market during their first transfer window in recent history
You would hope that's the case as it should then mean that if/when we get FDJ other signings will fall into place relatively quickly.
I have absolutely no problem with it tbh. You don't let yourself get rinsed at every opportunity. If they end up walking away and looking at someone else I wouldn't blame them either.
Can’t believe we haven’t learnt from these mind games in the transfer windows.
Waste time playing games, causing tension with fans (it’s an easy way to get fans back onside), missing out and being distracted from other transfer targets, players late to pre season and not enough time to train with fellow team mate.. and all of that to pay the fee that Barca wanted in the first place.
It’s just such a complete waste of time from the club. I’d understand if they actually had successfully lowered a fee but it never seems to be the case.
Waste time playing games, causing tension with fans (it’s an easy way to get fans back onside), missing out and being distracted from other transfer targets, players late to pre season and not enough time to train with fellow team mate.. and all of that to pay the fee that Barca wanted in the first place.
It’s just such a complete waste of time from the club. I’d understand if they actually had successfully lowered a fee but it never seems to be the case.
But Murtough isn’t Woodward and Judge. Look I’m skeptical as many on here, but holding the line with Barca is the right thing to do. They are in no position to set terms.
Almost time to unzip?
They also state he's likely to leave for Man City. Bullshit source.
Yea a swap deal doesn't really help them financially at all. All feels like a poker match with each side throwing it all in and trying not to blink
I do think these are negotiating tactics, BUT, they do like Bernardo Silva a ton and he wanted to leave last year so its not outside the realms of possibility that they raise the money elsewhere and then do that deal with City. Lets see.
Yes, I think this will need to be resolved one way or the other before much else happens. Once the deal is completed (or scrapped entirely), we'll probably see movement elsewhere. Decision time must be pretty close now, one would assume, as the summer tour beckons.
I wasn’t suggesting he was - I’m actually optimistic with the new regime, maybe more fool me.
Woodward was atrocious was my overall point anyway.
Let this drag on, let 'em sweat, it's fine. No one's going to give them what they want in the current economic scenario.
The world is heading into a recession, money isn't cheap anymore.
Just for the love of God focus on other positions so they can be here by pre-season.
The world is heading into a recession, money isn't cheap anymore.
Just for the love of God focus on other positions so they can be here by pre-season.
Im very confident this is happening, big positive if it does.
What about the fans Ornstein? Won't somebody think of the fans!?
Could we also maybe buy one or two others while we wait.
We need to drop that reputation of being to easy in negotiation, I don't mind going another two weeks either way De Jong wouldn't be available until the internationals are back having taken extra time off due to international fixtures
Good Murtough/Arnold we don't need that reputation that Woodward brought.
De Jong would use up the majority of our budget. I can see why the club might refrain from progressing any other deals until they know that De Jong is definitely on/off.
Nope, we will wait until we get De Jong mid August and panic buy last week of the window with the rest of the budget. The United way
Historically, yes, but I think we'll walk away from De Jong pretty soon if we can't get it over the line - we can then spend the budget elsewhere on two or three smaller deals.
Alvarez was signed as well.
The City move makes sense for him as being part of an already winning team would be better than joining a team who will most likely struggle to get top 6
I’m fine with not getting rinsed but at some point soon, we need to move on if there is no deal and not turn this into another saga, which will impact on all our other signings which we also urgently need to close.
Great. Stay calm about it. Absolutely the right call.
Could also secure other players in the meantime as well though, no?
Probably not. I think we are working with a smaller budget unfortunately so it makes sense that getting/not getting De Jong plays in to that. We need to seal the priority to know how much is available for the rest
Its been a week since window opened and also any player who played in nations league will not be available for training for next 3 weeks. Plenty of time to do business. I just dont get why there is a meltdown because we are negotiating with Barca.
Ornstein mentioned that most likely it will be done. Most likely we have an idea of what other player cost and we are waiting to see what will be the final price for FDJ so that we can see which other player we can sign.
Here's the link: https://www.mundodeportivo.com/vide...a-estrena-grande-dauphine-delante-roglic.html
This is by Sergi Solé, and it was published 2 days ago. The swap is his suggestion, and it's not something that Barcelona are actually working on. Lluis Canut also suggested this as a possibility instead of reporting this as something that Barcelona is working on.
I don’t disagree and I am not sure there is a meltdown but based on what we have seen the past few transfer windows, people are rightly pressing for quick signings, because we need quite a few of them. There is nothing wrong with negotiating with Barca as you say, but my point is that we should move on and not drag this to the final day of the window.
Put it this way, if we are struggling to sign this guy before 30th June when players back in training with ten Hag as a manager and Barcelona is financially in trouble then this club has no chance at all in the future. 
Think we just need to move on from De Jong now. Its pretty clear he wants to stay at Barca and we can't afford to be wasting time trying to convince him otherwise.
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