Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap

Frenkie to United?

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DutchCruijff said:
I have no idea what you're talking about.

It's not the same inference at all.

How can you deduce that "IT IS his most probable destination" is the same as "IT MAY BE his most probable destination"???

The two are not the same.

Anyway, yes, it doesn't matter as he's not leaving.
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:lol: I'd normally let this go, but we need 2000, so let's look at the two posts:

a) Chelsea is his most likely destination should he leave Barca.
b) Chelsea may be the his most probable destination if he was to leave Barca.

Is his most likely destination if he leaves = may be his most probable destination if he leaves.
These two sentences mean the same. There was no need to tell the original poster that he was wrong. Because he wasn't.

:lol: :lol: I can't believe we're exchanging posts here.
 
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Even if he were joining, we’ve probably spent this years funds already less we can move on some of the expensive bench warmers in January.
 
OrcaFat said:
No, I don’t think that’s true. Imagine the outrage if we were adding £17m to the Antony fee. It’s not peanuts. And it’s been said (by some random geezer) that the true figure he’d be giving up is closer to £30m (because of loyalty bonuses etc). The money is not the only factor but nothing can be done until the money is sorted.
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We`re paying a 30yr old DM(Casemiro is class BTW) similar wages to De Gea. Barcelona despite their financial issues have spent A LOT of money this summer. Do you really think both clubs wouldn`t find a way to split the money he`s owed if the player was genuinely open to leaving? Even Chelsea threw their hat in the ring with similar money to us and have more things that would attract FDJ like CL footy, higher chance of trophies, London etc he said no
It`s not a money factor. It`s a "De Jong lacks backbone" factor
 
RopersReturn said:
Even if he were joining, we’ve probably spent this years funds already less we can move on some of the expensive bench warmers in January.
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Then dip into next years budget, Erik needs to absolutely go all in and try to convince him he's better off here in a team that would play to his strengths.

Yes we aren't in Champions League like Chelsea or located in glamorous city but we are building a project and you are the key to it.
 
RopersReturn said:
Even if he were joining, we’ve probably spent this years funds already less we can move on some of the expensive bench warmers in January.
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I'd be happy to buy next years players this year tbf, why wait
 
RkkMan said:
Beyond me how people still think it`s the money. If the issue was PURELY the deferred wages it would have been sorted ages ago. Money isn`t a problem for Utd or Barca to the extent of paying off 17m when both clubs have had blockbuster summers
If he wanted to join Utd his own will would have made the deal happen quickly. See how swift we signed Casemiro when we made interest official
The player simply has zero backbone and would rather be humiliated at his "dream club and dream city" so that he can continue being a Barcelona player
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I have no doubt that money is a big, if not a key factor. United can not pay the money that is owed by Barca, never mind paying something close to 25 M quid. We have agreed a deal with barca, but it looks like Catalonians are not willing what they owe him.
 
Water Melon said:
I have no doubt that money is a big, if not a key factor. United can not pay the money that is owed by Barca, never mind paying something close to 25 M quid. We have agreed a deal with barca, but it looks like Catalonians are not willing what they owe him.
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Utd cant pay it directly but they could use other means like increase of wages or signing on fees etc to compensate a part of it with Barca paying another part. A pure money issue wouldn`t take 90% of the window to solve. The player simply has zero intention to leave which is strange considering what Barca have put him through
 
Surely we’d know if he was coming by now? Someone would have leaked to the press that he was looking at houses in Cheshire.
 
RkkMan said:
Utd cant pay it directly but they could use other means like increase of wages or signing on fees etc to compensate a part of it with Barca paying another part. A pure money issue wouldn`t take 90% of the window to solve. The player simply has zero intention to leave which is strange considering what Barca have put him through
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Yeah it's bordering on bullying
 
croadyman said:
Then dip into next years budget, Erik needs to absolutely go all in and try to convince him he's better off here in a team that would play to his strengths.

Yes we aren't in Champions League like Chelsea or located in glamorous city but we are building a project and you are the key to it.
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Agreed!
 
RkkMan said:
We`re paying a 30yr old DM(Casemiro is class BTW) similar wages to De Gea. Barcelona despite their financial issues have spent A LOT of money this summer. Do you really think both clubs wouldn`t find a way to split the money he`s owed if the player was genuinely open to leaving? Even Chelsea threw their hat in the ring with similar money to us and have more things that would attract FDJ like CL footy, higher chance of trophies, London etc he said no
It`s not a money factor. It`s a "De Jong lacks backbone" factor
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Nah. He is showing plenty of toughness not to be bullied by his club. And yes I really do think the money is the first thing to sort out and yes I think the sums of money involved really are significant for both clubs as well as for FDJ.
 
What is going on, is this still happening?
 
gaffs said:
When is the wedding?

How is a Prem footballer having a midweek, in season, wedding?

Especially when we have games 3 games in 8 days.
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He put in the annual leave request months ago, give him a break.
 
Would be super awesome if Frenkie is giving the best man’s speech, where he ends the speech with “By the way I’m joining you Donny”

One can dream right?
 
croadyman said:
He's over here for a couple of days for Donny's wedding, we all think Erik needs to take advantage and give it one last go this summer.
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Well we should be taking advantage, I'm sure Fergie would.
 
gaffs said:
When is the wedding?

How is a Prem footballer having a midweek, in season, wedding?

Especially when we have games 3 games in 8 days.
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Had all summer to tie the knot, waits until the first week in the season that we're playing midweek.
 
I am not giving this up yet.

I will stay here right until the final minute of the window.
 
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