Who is hurt? What a deeply bizarre post.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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You all are reactionary idiots. Look at his reaction and demeanour and tell me he isn’t coming.
Also, the reporter is a muppet too, reading his body language and mentioning his sigh
Should of asked him how he feels about playing with Lingard next season at Barca
Oh Barca is very much F. De Jong's dream club, make no mistake about that.
Most Ajax fans are big Barcelona fans and a lot of Dutch Ajax players dream of playing for Barcelona one day.
I don't think it's a big deal he's moving away from there. He's performed well in an orange or Ajax shirt previously. He's a professional that loves playing football, he's not gonna sulk because it rains in Manchester.
I’m aware of what it means, yet the ‘can afford to lose’ but is a subjective definition, a category that Barcelona did not need to have him in, but chose to. That is a message to him in itself.
Mods, am I allowed to report posts for the use of ‘should of’? It’s deeply upsetting.
Scroll up. Lot of disappointed people in here. It's no big deal.
Jesus Christ they’re fecked. The answer seems to be to sell future revenue and sell off parts of their merchandise income etc which lowers their future income anyway.
They will never recover. The option to buy these back is worthless since they can never afford it.
Just broke for intermission.
If that is true, I'd try to get Kessie on a free. Class player.
I'm not sure how you can both see it so binary with this 99/1% nonsense given what happened to us with players like Pogba and Di Maria. Everyone is different and will react different to that sort of move. It's fine to be concerned and be hesitant about buying a player in a situation like this. There's a weird obsession (that I've seen on here many times before) with wanting a transfer to go through so much that people are ignoring the risks involved in doing so and dismissing anyone who thinks it's justifiable to have them.
He's pretty much told us to feck off so no point crying over this one. On to the next target. I also would be happy with Kessie.
Except he didn't.
hasn't he already signed for Barca?
Of course he is.
He didnt want to answer is he's been in touch with ETH.
This one is so on.
This one is so on.
Feel like Barca have been on the verge of a financial meltdown for a decade.
I feel bad for him, to be honest. Clearly that’s his dream club and he doesn’t want to leave. Getting Arthur vibes from this, except FDJ is actually good.
Swing and a miss.
Been a very rough last 2-3 years for them financially and it's hard not to trace it back to that massive albatross they had hanging around their necks in Messi's contract...
555m was outrageous and their previous administration ran them into the brink of ruin with some of the dumbest contracts and transfers ever made on top of it.
They're literally having to sell off parts of the club and their merch/naming rights to stay afloat
They have a depth of talent in midfield.
Gavi, Pedri, Puig and Nico all talented youth that have played important roles this season. Busquets still doing the business and Kessie coming on a free.
De Jong was still in the top 3 most appearances for them this season, only behind Busquets and ter Stegen. If he was surplus he wouldn't have played so many games in talented Barca midfield.
I could find you a younger, better midfielder right now. Perhaps not available to us. But he's not what you are trying to make out.
Who?
I think Di Maria has fried some posters thinking faculties.
Players move to players that wouldn't be their furst choice all the time and go on to.have excellent careers there.
Players move to players that wouldn't be their furst choice all the time and go on to.have excellent careers there.
They've made even worse signings than us over the last decade, which is some achievement, and haven't had the same financial muscle to recover, all the while players like Messi (who was a big part of why they stayed successful) bled them dry with contracts. It's actually impressive how unbelievably badly the club was run. At least we managed to remain financially responsible.
Kessie basically told the world he doesn't want to play for us when he decided to sign for Barcelona. Or something like that.
There's over 9 pages of posts mentioning the name Di Maria in this thread
Not sure what Pogba has to do with anything, he didn’t come to United under any hint of duress at all.
There is also a weird obsession on here of presenting a range of ‘risks’ to anything. Every single target doesn’t make sense for some reason. The real trend is that of negativity, that declares we need to ‘move on’ within 48 hours of any ‘saga’ and of course, nobody wants to come here. Simply, I don’t see that as the case, and I think that is evidenced by these players continually coming here. If De Jong comes, he’ll just join the list of the likes of Pogba, Sanchez, Sancho, Shaw that many posters instantly declared would rather join Manchester City, Chelsea or Real Madrid only for the reality to show something different.
I’m not saying De Jong wants to come at all, I am saying we will see if he wants to come. That’s not me ignoring anything, that’s me simply not trying to claim to know what is driving another person in the detail that others seem to be claiming to know.
Madrid own/will soon own two of them. Think both are bigger talents.
If we're talking midfielders of all ages, then there's loads of better midfielders. Hell there's 2 young players at Barca that are/will keep him out of that team soon by the sounds of it. Then you've got the likes of De Bruyne, Modric, Kroos, Jorginho, Kante, Thiago, Verratti etc. Whilst FDJ was on an upward trajectory which has levelled off, the young midfielders currently on that upward trajectory could soon be considered better. I'm talking the likes of Bellingham, Ramsey and the Barca pair. I bet there's quite a few I'm forgetting too.
This is the weakest Barca side in decades and he's been kept out of the team at times and they're considering his sale. That says something. His competition is mostly kids and Busquets who is past his peak.
But... that's not a good thing. Most of our signings over the last decade have been tremendous failures. We've been a shambles. This isn't the same as another big club who have had a well oiled transfer policy buying a player at all. It's okay to have concerns about this, you can't simply ignore all the issues we've had in the past when taking into consideration whether it's the right move.
My one positive here is ETH. He will obviously help and has managed FDJ before, very successfully, so that's good.
So why does this position not apply to these other midfielders then? Given Barca have so much cover there. Gavi could be sold for 50m easily, and has not shown anywhere near the same commitment to Barcelona as De Jong. He is yet to sign a new contract.
To be fair, nobody is off limits there. If the club can sell Messi for financial reasons, then anyone can be sold if it makes fiscal sense.
They'll be wanting for a long time then.
They'll end up doing it for close to the 70-75m they paid plus bonuses
Players failing has been a consistent theme because we’ve been clueless. Telles was effervescent about joining United, but he’s been poor. #RojoIsRed didn’t work out either.
The issues we have had in the past have been that in the main, no player of any profile at all has performed well enough for us for prolonged spells. In fact, the players who have done so have often been players subject to the same conversation about whether we should sign them because fans claim to know what drives/motivates them (typically concluding they care only about money - ‘last big pay day’ is the favoured line). Players like Cavani, Zlatan and Ronaldo have come in and performed. So while the team has struggled, I’m not seeing any such trend that needs to be avoided. I also look at how similar players in similar situations perform after joining other clubs. Unless the insinuation is that all footballers just hate Manchester United specifically, I see nothing to suggest that any player is inherently less driven to play here than they are at the other clubs they join and perform well at.
If he doesn't want to join then thats fine, we're basically shit and he knows it.
Only way this could change is if there is some transfer movement beforehand and we get 2-3 good players in that makes him think hmmmm.
Only way this could change is if there is some transfer movement beforehand and we get 2-3 good players in that makes him think hmmmm.
It feels like 10M is added to his price every other day. 90M euros and at least 350K in wages? That‘s pretty close to Pogba money. Let’s hope it works out much better if we end up signing him.
Name 10 midfielders better than him.
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