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Frenkie to United?


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I suspect many players in our current and previous squads would have preferred to play for Barcelona or Real Madrid instead of United. That is life. Maybe Barcelona is Fred’s dream club too, and if given the choice at the time, he’d have preferred to be there instead of here. I’m sure Bruno would probably rather have joined Real Madrid than United. The dream club stuff is largely a fan driven thing, as we make no money from football. Everything is romance to us.

I doubt Reguilon dreamt of leaving Real for Spurs. Those are the cards he was dealt, and he’s come and gotten on with it.
 
after reading those quotes we should bring him in so he can teach the likes of maguire how to defend.
 
He’s digging his heels in isn’t he :lol:

Take it on the chin and move on.
 
He’s digging his heels in isn’t he :lol:

Take it on the chin and move on.
Not really what I’d take from those quotes. Basically says to me ideally he wants to stay. If he’s not wanted he’ll go to somewhere he’ll definitely play. On a Thursday night.
 
His words don’t fill me with any confidence. He can stay at Barca. We need to move on and focus on other more attainable targets rather than being drawn into another long and protracted summer transfer saga which leads us to rushing a move for Danjuma on transfer deadline day.
 
Thing is, Barca need money and he is their most sellable player based on game time and value. When push comes to shove they'll either force him out, or ask him to reduce his wages.
 

You all are reactionary idiots. Look at his reaction and demeanour and tell me he isn’t coming. :drool: :drool:
Also, the reporter is a muppet too, reading his body language and mentioning his sigh :lol:
 
This whole interview is basically nothing new. He would prefer to stay at Barcelona (obviously), but if he was made to move, which Barcelona haven't told him he has to yet, he will not go to a new club thinking he doesn't want to play for them. So basically it's about whether Barcelona need to sell him and if we make an offer
 
This whole interview is basically nothing new. He would prefer to stay at Barcelona (obviously), but if he was made to move, which Barcelona haven't told him he has to yet, he will not go to a new club thinking he doesn't want to play for them. So basically it's about whether Barcelona need to sell him and if we make an offer
We’re about to find out Barcas intentions very soon which is exciting!
 
I suspect many players in our current and previous squads would have preferred to play for Barcelona or Real Madrid instead of United. That is life. Maybe Barcelona is Fred’s dream club too, and if given the choice at the time, he’d have preferred to be there instead of here. I’m sure Bruno would probably rather have joined Real Madrid than United. The dream club stuff is largely a fan driven thing, as we make no money from football. Everything is romance to us.

I doubt Reguilon dreamt of leaving Real for Spurs. Those are the cards he was dealt, and he’s come and gotten on with it.
Your first paragraph makes no sense in this context, though. He's already at Barca, unlike Fred or Bruno.

Reguilon also never got a game for Real, and was loaned out before he joined Spurs, so again, not the same at all.

FDJ is one of Barca's best and most important players and isn't going to be sold because he's not good enough, but because he's one player they can make a lot of money on.
 
Just seems more likely next year to happen. This year we really aren't prestigious enough to tempt him while mainly he isn't ready to leave them yet (and they won't force him out just yet). Another year of development for Pedri and Gavi, and with Kessie there now too, can see him being ready to go next year. As of now, feels like Fabregas in 2013.
 

You all are reactionary idiots. Look at his reaction and demeanour and tell me he isn’t coming. :drool: :drool:
Also, the reporter is a muppet too, reading his body language and mentioning his sigh :lol:


That's a great interview tbh, both people come off as quite likeable
 
Your first paragraph makes no sense in this context, though. He's already at Barca, unlike Fred or Bruno.

Reguilon also never got a game for Real, and was loaned out before he joined Spurs, so again, not the same at all.

FDJ is one of Barca's best and most important players and isn't going to be sold because he's not good enough, but because he's one player they can make a lot of money on.

Right but as FDJ is saying in that interview, he has no intentions of leaving Barca because they haven't told him they are selling him, so why would he bother to even say anything different. He also says that if he was made to move he wouldn't go to a new club thinking of not playing for them. So it's basically in Barcelona's court on if they need/want to sell him or not, and he would go to a new club happy to play for them. But currently they haven't told him anything different so he's happy at Barcelona
 
If we can make sales, then we should be able to sign at least sign 4 players.

AWB £25 million
Bailly £15 million
Pereira £10 million
Jones £5 million

Yes we are taking a loss on the players being sold, but it has to be done and will help boost our transfer budget.
 
I suspect many players in our current and previous squads would have preferred to play for Barcelona or Real Madrid instead of United. That is life. Maybe Barcelona is Fred’s dream club too, and if given the choice at the time, he’d have preferred to be there instead of here. I’m sure Bruno would probably rather have joined Real Madrid than United. The dream club stuff is largely a fan driven thing, as we make no money from football. Everything is romance to us.

I doubt Reguilon dreamt of leaving Real for Spurs. Those are the cards he was dealt, and he’s come and gotten on with it.

Absolutely.

"We should only sign players who really want to be here" is a very privileged POV to take in a world where 99% of professional footballers would prefer to be at a club other than the one they currently play for.

All you ever need from a player is a high level of professionalism once they're at your club. That's it. Once you have that, it doesn't matter if they joined for mercenary reasons (as was the case for players like Aguero and Silva at City), or because the better team they played for didn't want them any more (as is the case for the majority of players big clubs sell), or because they're madly in love with your club.
 
The interview in Dutch is much more nuanced than the translations I see. It doesn't seem at all to me he wouldn't come here.
 
Absolutely.

"We should only sign players who really want to be here" is a very privileged POV to take in a world where 99% of professional footballers would prefer to be at a club other than the one they currently play for.

All you ever need from a player is a high level of professionalism once they're at your club. That's it. Once you have that, it doesn't matter if they joined for mercenary reasons (as was the case for players like Aguero and Silva at City), or because the better team they played for didn't want them any more (as is the case for the majority of players big clubs sell), or because they're madly in love with your club.
But... he's in the 1% so I fail to see your point?

He's already a star player making big money at his dream club and would have to move to a club in a worse position with no CL football. That's a completely different situation to 99.99% of footballers on the planet!
 
Just seems more likely next year to happen.

It's really not. Barcelona needs to sell him soon. They can't even register Kessie or Christensen who they got on free. Lewandowski is also clearly on his way to them and will cost a decent fee and wage.
 
Your first paragraph makes no sense in this context, though. He's already at Barca, unlike Fred or Bruno.

Reguilon also never got a game for Real, and was loaned out before he joined Spurs, so again, not the same at all.

FDJ is one of Barca's best and most important players and isn't going to be sold because he's not good enough, but because he's one player they can make a lot of money on.

It makes perfect sense. Players can prefer to play for a different team, yet if that is not possible (for whatever reason), then they will always choose the best option they have. Whether that is Bruno choosing United over Spurs because in the absence of a Real/Barca offer - that was the best he had, or De Jong choosing United over being sidelined at Barcelona. The common denominator is players not always getting what they want, and therefore making the most of what they have. This fear of a player not performing because he is not in his dream scenario is exaggerated.

Many have said over and over that De Jong is Barcelona’s ‘most saleable asset’ - it isn’t true. They have bigger assets that would bring even more money than De Jong. Clearly, they value those players higher. So he’s clearly not important enough, even if you say he is one of their most important players. They have a number of players that are untouchable, and he isn’t amongst them.

And Reguilon has gotten games for Real Madrid.
 
But... he's in the 1% so I fail to see your point?

He's already a star player making big money at his dream club and would have to move to a club in a worse position with no CL football. That's a completely different situation to 99.99% of footballers on the planet!

Then he won't leave. Problem solved.

All the more reason not to fret about whether signings really want to be at your club. If they come, they wanted to be here. And if they come but wish they were ideally at a different club, they're back in that 99%.
 
But... he's in the 1% so I fail to see your point?

He's already a star player making big money at his dream club and would have to move to a club in a worse position with no CL football. That's a completely different situation to 99.99% of footballers on the planet!

Then the point is moot and he will stay there. If he already has all he wants and needs and is a ‘star player at his dream club’, this conversation or indeed the entire thread wouldn’t be happening. However, his current reality is pushing him back into the 99% of players.

Pedri is in the 1%. De Jong is at his dream club, yet the feeling doesn’t appear to be mutual. If he is forced out, he becomes the 99%. If he is not forced out, the conversation doesn’t matter.
 
Although it could still happen, this was always going to be a tough transfer to pull off.

Either way, we need a player who is comfortable in possession and has a good range of passing, whilst partnered with someone more solid in the tackle.

Fabian, Tielemans, etc
 
It makes perfect sense. Players can prefer to play for a different team, yet if that is not possible (for whatever reason), then they will always choose the best option they have. Whether that is Bruno choosing United over Spurs because in the absence of a Real/Barca offer - that was the best he had, or De Jong choosing United over being sidelined at Barcelona. The common denominator is players not always getting what they want, and therefore making the most of what they have. This fear of a player not performing because he is not in his dream scenario is exaggerated.

Many have said over and over that De Jong is Barcelona’s ‘most saleable asset’ - it isn’t true. They have bigger assets that would bring even more money than De Jong. Clearly, they value those players higher. So he’s clearly not important enough, even if you say he is one of their most important players. They have a number of players that are untouchable, and he isn’t amongst them.

And Reguilon has gotten games for Real Madrid.
Pretty sure most 'saleable asset' was meant as in he's the player they can most afford to lose while getting the most money for.

He's also the highest earner at the club
 
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