Fair enough, I generally don't rate donny much, but have hope for Garner. My point is that our midfield isn't perfect, but isn't that bad. Donny isn't much use as a sub imo, and he'll never be enough to start, so would rather sell him and bring in Frenkie or bennacer, and in that case it's just smarter to loan out Garner so he gets game time.
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Nah, bad comparison. Tottenham refused to sell the player. It would be the same if Spurs were trying to get rid of Kane all summer.
And Kane stayed at spurs on half the wages, playing as a DM
Eh try 42,000
He's speaking about a single poster
I've literally just crossed 3000 posts... wasn't long ago I had 1600
In the flesh!
What will you do once the transfer window closed? Go into hibernation until January?
The Muppets are wildin
It’s official this thread is killing my brain cells
Crawl into my hidey cave and return to the world of lurking...
Nah I'm gonna be active in match day threads if not working
I’m working on 42k
Based on the test matches? Interesting. To be honest, I didn't see much of improvement already, yes we seem to be a bit more courageous with passing and not as seemingly afraid of possession and there were a few attacking moves that looked like football in 2022 but I thought I shouldn't overestimate that given the character of the matches. I thought we were really bad early 2nd half against Villa. Really discouraged me to be honest. What was your thought on that?
No need to sell Fred to me, already a fan ^^ But he has his flaws, undoubtedly and I find it pretty interesting of ETH to name him to be capable of playing the anchor role, that most of us think, would then go to FDJ. I mean, Fred and FDJ have completely different skillsets, what kind of role is that?!
I know where you are coming from. Impatience is a very limited good these days. And believe me, my skepticism doesn't originate from that. It is just that we have seen it so many times, players get a clean slate with a new manager, because, lets be honest, it is pretty easy to do. You don't have to sell all your squad, it is easy to communicate and who knows, one or the other might impress. I get that. But some of those players don't have certain qualities. And without them, they will lack output. And even if a manager certainly can have an effect on things, I don't think he can bridge the deepest abysses. I believe in ETH, I think he can create something. But it will take time and you won't get time, when there is no progress to be seen in any way. I am worried, that he relies on a group of players who have shown to be unreliable.
This thread is Frenkie de Long
Maybe. Most of my time will be spent steering clear of match day threads. Awful, awful places they are.
Nah I think they may be different this year. My hopes are high, the reality will likely be much different though
Just got back from the England game and traipsed through 20 odd pages, you nutters
Anyway, if we can’t get Frenkie, we should get Keira Walsh
Anyway, if we can’t get Frenkie, we should get Keira Walsh
So just trying to catch up at the end of the day - seems like a lot of new posts but not a lot of actual news?
Seems that latest noise from Barca is that Frenkie is now going to take a huge wage cut to stay and his team have led us on to get to this point?
Is that the gist of it?
Seems that latest noise from Barca is that Frenkie is now going to take a huge wage cut to stay and his team have led us on to get to this point?
Is that the gist of it?
Yeah it won't go away of course. But success brings confidence to a team. It forms a backbone. It will create players you can rely on, players who play a certain way. Just look at Liverpool, it is the best example of that - it seems so easy for them, to bring in a new piece. Because all the pieces around are strong, one new piece isn't creating instability. So while we certainly won't get the degree of pressure to zero - lets not act as if there wasn't a difference in pressure when we introduced for example Johnny Evans or when we introduce Dalot, Laird or Garner today.
Nah, the news is he's considering a pay cut, but it's still unlikely that he'll take it. A reliable source on tour with Barca has said a departure is possible with United being the only option (or most likely?) On the table. Not sure how to read it, others will know better.
Aside from that, not much. Nothing from any of the English journos
Yeah, different in that the words ’Ole‘ and ‘Ralf‘ will be replaced by the word ‘Hag‘. The tone will be much the same otherwise.
Well, now you put it like that... I might have to go into hibernation myself
Yep. Barca used us to lower his wage.
Apart from the fact that there is no indication that he’s going to lower his wage..
Its perfectly fine to chase the right player even if it takes a bit longer (=more than one summer), but this can't be an excuse for another underwhelming season. If EtH and the management think its a good idea to go into the season with McFred in midfield, its up to them to make it work and if it falls apart its their fault. United is a freaking rich club and there can't be any excuses for not being competitive.
This is most definitely untrue. Garner has already seen 8 minutes of PL football over 2 appearances.
I guess, this shows a major difference in our perspective on things, which will then lead to me feeling different actions needed in a much more urgent way than you: I see Eriksen as a backup for Bruno and thats it. Don't think, he is capable of being relied on to be more than an option. Have no real hopes for Donny, only thing I could imagine is him being tried as some sort of false nine, making runs. And with Garner, I don't really see an extraordinary talent. He'll probably go on to become a good PL player, but I don't see a top player in there. Against PL opposition he's going to see his limits quickly.
For the record, thats not me saying, I'm right, you're wrong. It is just me saying that is how I see things and thats why I feel a bit more urged to do something than you ^^
Ok, how could I forget those magical times...
Ah, forgive me O Father. Yes, always been prone to blasphemy, me.
So was I because had his name on my 94/95 home shirt then got flogged to Everton
10× De Jong/Stan Rap and your sins will be forgiven
Getting farcical now. At first I thought we wouldn't stay keen if he hadn't indicated he wanted to come here.
But now it seems like he doesn't want to, and will only come as a last resort.
ETH, Murtough and Arnold will have a lot to answer for if they spent the entire transfer window chasing a player who doesn't want to join us.
But now it seems like he doesn't want to, and will only come as a last resort.
ETH, Murtough and Arnold will have a lot to answer for if they spent the entire transfer window chasing a player who doesn't want to join us.
Doesn't hurt to try I suppose.
Dont forget replacing Ronaldo with Valencia, Roy Keane with no one. That didnt go so well. Wish it was that simple.
Something's happening. My Muppet sense is tingling.
Anyone know if we pulled out of the deal and FDJ refused to take paycut at Barca, can Barca still afford to keep him or they need to pull another lever?
You should get that checked out.
They - I gather - won't be able to register all their new shiny players.
We had our most successful period ever right after getting rid of Roy Keane so that's not a great example.
I do wonder if Frenkie will be more tempted to join if we impress in our first couple of games this season? A shame our third game is against Pool though.
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