If his GF is a moany bitch i can understand him giving away 26m just to shut her up
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If his GF is a moany bitch i can understand him giving away 26m just to shut her up
is there a Salah here over a De Jong though? I’d argue the Salah signing is a once in a lifetime thing.
Obviously that is Barca's stance about showing how much he wants to stay. Actually, they can sell him, there have been loads of clubs that have sold players that have wanted to stay. It depends on how FDJ wants to be treated, clearly Barca are treating him with the upmost disrespect.
I'm slightly confused - hasn't he been on 40% pay cut for the last season or two anyway?
So are they basically asking him to reject his contractual huge payrise, or do they want to cut his pay even further?
Also, as others have said. If he's willing to miss out on millions and millions just to stay as a squad player at Barcelona then we are dodging a bullet because he won't have the mentality to make a success of himself at United.
No, it isn't.
Yep and Ten Hag was his boss for only a year and a half.
Yeah same here but our the club didn't really show many signs in the past to be overly confident.
What I don't understand is, in case we have plan Bs, why aren't we more vocal about it. Not officially of course, but by some sort of briefings or fake leaks. There isn't anything at all to lose for us, other than maybe raising the pressure on FDJ and Barca. And even that could be avoided by a briefing, that other midfielders wouldn't be looked for instead of FDJ but on top of it...We'd look better for our own fanbase and we'd look more serious in terms of not putting all our money on one card.
If he takes the paycut and Barcelona can register everyone, he will not be a squad player.
If his fiancée wants him to give up 26m just to stay in Barcelona
Not close yet. @Raoul had near 7,000 posts in the Trump thread (Dunno if there's older threads with more).
Berba is close to beating any of the mentalists in the Messi vs Ronaldo thread, though, and that's a hell of an achievement in itself.
Get a move on Utd.
Forest have bought 3 players since page-1004.
Forest have bought 3 players since page-1004.
The question is is Barcelona also asking him to forego the money owed to him AND take the paycut, or they'll give him his deferred wages and only take a 50% pay cut on his usual salary ?
What could possibly go wrong for him?
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No they can't. How hard is that to understand?
You can't sell a player without his approval. The only reason players get sold despite them not wanting to get sold is because the club tells them they won't play for the remainder of their contract. Which would be career suicide.
But if the player doesn't care or doesn't believe that the club will actually do that, then the club can't do anything. See Bale for example. A contract works two ways.
Why unfortunately? And what does fanatic desperado mean? Of course nothing could have stopped it, it's his choice after all.
If that turns out to be true and he ends up staying at Barcelona under these terms and conditions...then more fool him. They are laughing at him and taking the absolute piss, whilst signing other players right in front of him. Just utterly disrespectful.
They don’t want him. You don’t publicly say you’re going to play a world class midfielder in centre back and then once he accepts a paycut, put them back into the team in midfield.
Plain and simple, I believe they do not want him as he doesn’t fit their ideas.
Plain and simple, I believe they do not want him as he doesn’t fit their ideas.
Yeah makes sense. I totally agree, I wouldn't want ETH to be such a factor anyway but he is the one who will face the consequences if no midfield reinforcement comes in and I would expect him to really really really make a fuzz internally about the prospect of this. Murtough and Arnold aren't experienced players in that game and they may need a little more directions. I am a bit scared of a scenario, that we will end without FDJ, buying some 18 y/o CM talent and accept the status quo. After all, it can be said that we did all we could, it wasn't us who led to the failure and that we really tried to give the manager exactly what he wanted. All those are somewhat plausible explanations to reduce accountability.
Ozil, Di Maria, Sanchez have all been sold when they did not want to leave the club.
It happens.
He has played as a centre back before though. Koeman used him there quite often at Barca and he also player there for Ajax a few times. I remember, because we beat Ajax 6-2 with him as a center back. mwahawuawhawuhaw.
He will start. If Frenkie will conform to Barcelona's wage structure and is there for the coming years, he will start. They are pestering him because he hasn't yet.
He was one of the best players under Xavi.
I think de Jong and his agent tried to use Man Utd's interest to strong arm Barcelona into paying the deferred wages that are owed. Unfortunately for him Barcelona would rather sell and he does not want to leave, so I think he will accept the pay cut and the ongoing deferred wages in order to stay. He is desperate to stay there. What a sad, little life.
This is the most logical post in a while.
Irrespective of the wages where does he play? They have signed players in his position, declaring him a CB, only to sign CBs.
They don’t want him
Mate come on.... you must be messing with me now right?
How exactly do think that happens? The club can just magically throw away the contract?
It’s different, they were forced out for Bale, James and Neymar to replace them. Nobody new is replacing Frenkie, his place in the lineup isn’t really under threat, he is getting paid less that’s all.
I agree, and in fact I don’t think you’ve gone far enough. If a club tells a player they won’t play for the remainder of their contract, then as I understand it that player then has the right to buy himself out, meaning he gets his move anyway, and the club get no fee. Might be getting that a bit wrong, but I’m sure there is a law to that effect.
Where though? Even the Barca fans see no place for him…
Xavi has said at CB but he won’t start there either.
If they had any desire to keep him he’d of started pre season in his new position to bed in.
They simply don’t want him, have planned without him and are forcing him out.
they've agreed to a fee to sell him, he's clearly not seen as a vital part of their future
+1 i too think this is the case
That would be a stupid and completely unnecessary move on his behalf as the deferred wages were already built in to his extended contract. He was getting them back if all things stayed the same.
This is totally about Barca pushing him out to save a few bags. FDJ is not at fault in anyway.
I still can’t get my head around this whole thing, all while Barca go spend 1000000s on new players. So corrupt.
Yeah he's a CB now, they're on the verge of signing a CB for big money, at which point he'll be seen as a valuable option at full back and then he'll transition to his ideal role of kitman
It means he is more than just a fan of Barca and that he's desperate to play for them - come what may
Who does he replace? One of their two rising stars (Pedro or Gavi that they said they want to build around) or Busquets?
Also (allegedly) want B Silva.
Most Barca fans I’ve heard from say he was average last season (though acknowledge that not playing in his best position).
It's more a case of him being desperate not to join us as he sees us as a bit of a joke, rather than him being desperate to stay at Barca and play CB IMO. If City, PSG or Bayern came in for him I reckon they'd get a deal done for him pretty quickly.
We just don't have the pull anymore, and we need to get our scouting department sorted out so that we can start pursuing shrewder targets and begin slowly rebuilding our reputation.
We just don't have the pull anymore, and we need to get our scouting department sorted out so that we can start pursuing shrewder targets and begin slowly rebuilding our reputation.
There's no way he's taking a pay cut. If he's staying, he's staying on his current deal
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