Frenkie De Jong - Part 3?

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Could see him rejuvenated in case of a swap with bernardo silva provided that city don't go under first.

Kovacic
Rodri
De Jong

Could be pretty neat.
 
I only care for players who want to be here and play for the club, it's the most basic requirement. It's neither a sufficient requirement nor a slam on him, but it's a requirement nonetheless. Has de Jong ever indicated he feels that way? Move on.
 
Barca want to sell him but De Jong doesn't want to move away from Barcelona, therefore sell him to Espanyol or Girona.
 
The weirdest thing was ETH coached him before. I presume they are close or at least in contact. He had made it very clear that he wanted to stay at Barcelona. Then why did we chased him all summer?

I presume Barcelona keep trying to pushed him out but he refused and finally stayed. He has done nothing so far to justify why he was our top target previously.

We can't be going back to someone who had pull all stops to join us. Move on!
 
I still have no idea when FDJ part 2 was, similarly to my confusion about Ivan Toney part 1.
 
I am ready



I would take him, however, doubt he gets sold without a resolution to the wages he is owed. Would be a big upgrade on Casemiro although I imagine those upset with Ten Hag staying on will be upset that it's another former player.
 
600,000 a week is bonkers. Barca really stiffed themselves...

He would run down his contract with them, nobody is taking him on anything close to those wages.
Aren't those wages inflated essentially because of back pay Barca owe him due to asking players to take pay-cuts during the covid effected season(s)? I still think he was/is on massive wages (memory says around 375k per week) but the 600k from the little I recall, is only due to Barca themselves owing the player money.

I'm not sure if they've repaid Messi, but last I read, they still owed him & a few others money as well.
 
600,000 a week is bonkers. Barca really stiffed themselves...

Seem to recall from this being discussed ad nauseum in Part 1 (or was it 2?) that the issue isn't that they signed him on a £600k per week contract, but that he agreed to restructure his wage payments to help the club handle COVID-related cashflow issues, but they have since been desperate not to pay the backloaded part of the renegotiated contract, and want to sell him in the hope that they can effectively avoid having underpaid him for a long period.

The issue with this strategy being that he has no interest in leaving, and coaches have no interest in sidelining him to force him out because he is very good at football. Staying is win-win for him - gets to play for the club of his dreams while being paid the fortune in wages that he is owed.
 
I know Barca are a mess but I low key don't believe the reported wages of 600k weekly, these are Messi level wages, 400k seems more plausible
 
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His contract expires in 2 years and even if you paid him £200k - Barca would still owe him the £400k difference a week is over £40m on it's own so it will never happen
 
Aren't those wages inflated essentially because of back pay Barca owe him due to asking players to take pay-cuts during the covid effected season(s)? I still think he was/is on massive wages (memory says around 375k per week) but the 600k from the little I recall, is only due to Barca themselves owing the player money.

I'm not sure if they've repaid Messi, but last I read, they still owed him & a few others money as well.

Correct. When he signed in 2019, his gross salary was reported to be in the £375k - £400k per week range, but he then took pay cuts in the following three years, which saw it eventually reduce to around £150k per week. Barcelona are now required to pay those deferred wages on top of his existing salary, so his current weekly pay is enormous (£620k per week).
 
Aren't those wages inflated essentially because of back pay Barca owe him due to asking players to take pay-cuts during the covid effected season(s)? I still think he was/is on massive wages (memory says around 375k per week) but the 600k from the little I recall, is only due to Barca themselves owing the player money.

I'm not sure if they've repaid Messi, but last I read, they still owed him & a few others money as well.

Seem to recall from this being discussed ad nauseum in Part 1 (or was it 2?) that the issue isn't that they signed him on a £600k per week contract, but that he agreed to restructure his wage payments to help the club handle COVID-related cashflow issues, but they have since been desperate not to pay the backloaded part of the renegotiated contract, and want to sell him in the hope that they can effectively avoid having underpaid him for a long period.

The issue with this strategy being that he has no interest in leaving, and coaches have no interest in sidelining him to force him out because he is very good at football. Staying is win-win for him - gets to play for the club of his dreams while being paid the fortune in wages that he is owed.
Yeah I think that's the case - it was a classic case of kicking a problem down the road. I guess they thought they could force him out before they'd have to pay him. Love it that is blown up in their faces
 
Correct. When he signed in 2019, his gross salary was reported to be in the £375k - £400k per week range, but he then took pay cuts in the following three years, which saw it eventually reduce to around £150k per week. Barcelona are now required to pay those deferred wages on top of his existing salary, so his current weekly pay is enormous (£620k per week).

Interesting. In American sports, namely MLB (baseball), players have often shifted money/wages down the road for short term offset to the owning club (franchise in US). In many cases this ends up the player deferring XX millions to a year far down the road but ultimately regaining those deferred wages with interest for a long time, like 10-30 years.

A great case study is Bobby Bonilla.
https://www.northjersey.com/story/s...ars-every-year-deferred-contract/74266794007/

A modern day example is Shohei Otahni. https://www.mlb.com/news/shohei-ohtani-dodgers-deal-deferrals-explained
 
Correct. When he signed in 2019, his gross salary was reported to be in the £375k - £400k per week range, but he then took pay cuts in the following three years, which saw it eventually reduce to around £150k per week. Barcelona are now required to pay those deferred wages on top of his existing salary, so his current weekly pay is enormous (£620k per week).
Thanks bud. He's obviously still overpriced at the 375k per week range, but the 600k figure is something Barca have brought onto themselves.
Yeah I think that's the case - it was a classic case of kicking a problem down the road. I guess they thought they could force him out before they'd have to pay him. Love it that is blown up in their faces
Yep, they've tried to force him out a couple of times already, without even offering to pay his owed wage over to him - probably expecting the buying club to somehow agree that with FDJ. The cheek. Glad he's sat it out with them.
 
I have zero interest in this player. I have strong doubts that a midfield pairing of De Jong and Mainoo with Bruno in front would work. If we were to sign him (we won't), I wouldn't want him on a penny over £200k a week.
 
Unless his contract expires and Barca does not extend it, he will stay there until retirement. Any other rumors should be consider fake news.
 
Unless his contract expires and Barca does not extend it, he will stay there until retirement. Any other rumors should be consider fake news.
He will do what he is told by his girlfriend.

He will stay at Barca until contract is finished. Then probably retire after earning all that money.

He is exactly the wrong type of signing. Never happening.
 
I have zero interest in this player. I have strong doubts that a midfield pairing of De Jong and Mainoo with Bruno in front would work. If we were to sign him (we won't), I wouldn't want him on a penny over £200k a week.
Would probably work great on Fifa, or whatever it’s called these days. Not so much when you need to protect the defence and win the ball back.
 
I have zero interest in this player. I have strong doubts that a midfield pairing of De Jong and Mainoo with Bruno in front would work. If we were to sign him (we won't), I wouldn't want him on a penny over £200k a week.
It absolutely wouldn't...although we do need a rotation option, and the ability for someone to dictate the game. FDJ is just too expensive, we will have to hold out until a young player steps up and sign them before anyone else.
 
Excellent player and you cant have too many good players in this era of 90 games in a fortnight. But the wages are laughable. Barca are such a joke club.
 
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