Final Signing

Strachan8 said:
We will need a left back. If Davies goes to Madrid there are two obvious replacements otherwise get the Girona LB as they are likely to drop off massively from last year given the players they have lost.
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We have a range of players able to cover on LB until Shaw/ Malacia are back.
Who’s cover for Mainoo, or you see him play 60 full games this year?
 
I’d go for Billy Gilmour, don’t understand how he is available for 12 million. He can play football and would be a brilliant squad option.
 
Assuming Urgate comes in, I still think the squad is a bit light... 6 midfielders for 3 positions doesn't really seem like enough with our injury record (and one of them is Erisken instead of Mainoo, when really Eriksen should be a number 10 reserve)
 
If we really are to pull one last signing post Ugarte, who would folks prefer? A LB or a ball playing #8?

I can't make up my mind. I think I am 51-49 in favor of a LB as I think Eriksen could be a useful midfield option if used wisely.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
Assuming Urgate comes in, I still think the squad is a bit light... 6 midfielders for 3 positions doesn't really seem like enough with our injury record (and one of them is Erisken instead of Mainoo, when really Eriksen should be a number 10 reserve)
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If you're including Eriksen, you might as well include Collyer. That makes it 7 players for three positions. I'd like another one next summer though.
 
Remember the geese said:
If you're including Eriksen, you might as well include Collyer. That makes it 7 players for three positions. I'd like another one next summer though.
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I'm not including Collyer as he's someone who should be getting maybe 10/15 mins at the ends of games we've actually one - not someone we actually need to rely on as a Squad option.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
I'm not including Collyer as he's someone who should be getting maybe 10/15 mins at the ends of games we've actually one - not someone we actually need to rely on as a Squad option.
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Eriksen is in the same boat as Collyer in my view, so it's either 5 players for three positions or 7, depending on your viewpoint.
 
Remember the geese said:
Eriksen is in the same boat as Collyer in my view, so it's either 5 players for three positions or 7, depending on your viewpoint.
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I get that thinking - but I think Eriksen as a back-up to Bruno is fine - Ultimately Bruno plays every game and is never injured, so Eriksen would only really contribute sporadically, but he's still a good enough football technician to contribute something / start in EL games.

Collyer is a full on youngster who might not even be good enough - no way he should be considered an actual squad option at present
 
Annihilate Now! said:
I get that thinking - but I think Eriksen as a back-up to Bruno is fine - Ultimately Bruno plays every game and is never injured, so Eriksen would only really contribute sporadically, but he's still a good enough football technician to contribute something / start in EL games.

Collyer is a full on youngster who might not even be good enough - no way he should be considered an actual squad option at present
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I think Eriksen will be gone a year from now. They will make a decision on Collyer as the season progresses. In that sense, the midfield is still very much in flux and a work in progress. It won't be fully solved until next year. I think we need genuine cover/competition for Mainoo, but they'll try to cobble by with Casemiro/Eriksen/Collyer and maybe even Mount filling in for Mainoo when required.
 
Anyone else think we are fecked without another attacker that can actually score goals?

Can't see us scoring more than 60 which would get us no where
 
Insanity said:
If we really are to pull one last signing post Ugarte, who would folks prefer? A LB or a ball playing #8?

I can't make up my mind. I think I am 51-49 in favor of a LB as I think Eriksen could be a useful midfield option if used wisely.
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I'd love a CM, Caqueret perhaps. Shaw will be back soon, and we have some cover in LB with Martinez, Dalot, Nous etc. - perhaps we can revisit this position again in January.

Worried about goals of course, but I think we can wait to see how our forwards develop + we can't really get rid of Sancho/Antony at the moment and we don't really know what the others will deliver with a solid defence/midfield behind them, we'll likely have to wait till next Summer to sort that out.
 
Would like another under the radar midfielder and LB on loan/cheap. Not confident we have enough given our injury issues.
 
RedRocket08 said:
I'd love a CM, Caqueret perhaps. Shaw will be back soon, and we have some cover in LB with Martinez, Dalot, Nous etc. - perhaps we can revisit this position again in January.

Worried about goals of course, but I think we can wait to see how our forwards develop + we can't really get rid of Sancho/Antony at the moment and we don't really know what the others will deliver with a solid defence/midfield behind them, we'll likely have to wait till next Summer to sort that out.
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May be Amass too in a few months time when he is more physically ready and has familiarized himself with the first team?

Like I said, I am 51-49, wouldn't mind a CM as the only option we have if Mainoo is not available is Eriksen. Who I still think can be useful but would be scared if we need him to start say 5 games in a row.

Do you think we'd see a Case-Ugarte combination in the midfield? Case is more of a passer of the ball than a ball winner these days, so that might be an option.

Other than that we may see a return of a 4141 formation from last season with two #10's in front of a defensive midfielder. Ugarte at the base and Bruno & Mount on either side...may be that can work with an all action midfielder in Ugarte.
 
Won’t bother starting a thread to ask this so I’ll try here..

Do you think we will make another signing this summer after Ugarte?
 
LawCharltonBest said:
Won’t bother starting a thread to ask this so I’ll try here..

Do you think we will make another signing this summer after Ugarte?
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Personally, no. The line has rigidly been about FFP, whether or not that is true, it seems they aren't looking to do more than what they now have.
 
I think we are done. Radcliffe said he’s going to build over a number of transfer windows. I think it’s safe to say they went about rebuilding in defence. Two very young but quality Centre Backs, a right back and a defensive midfielder.

We didn’t need an attacking mid as we have Bruno and Mount. We have brought in a young back up versatile attacker.

I feel Ineos want to give our young attackers a chance to grow. Amad, Gernacho and Hojilund.

If they don’t grow we will see this become our focus next summer.

I would be shocked if we went for Sterling, Rabiot or Toney. It just doesn’t tie in with the profiles. 26 and under for everyone else we have signed and the 26 year old was our cheapest.

What I will say is what a great window. Clear vision, signing young hungry talented players for reasonable fees. Edging out dead wood. Most importantly no massive failed sagas. We seemed to get everyone we genuinely went after too. Let’s not forget De Ligt was Bayerns first choice in the champions league when for as was Ugarte for PSG in the Champions league. That experience is invaluable.

The big question is can the manager do it? No excuses now.
 
Such a shame we didn’t go for Ferdi who can apparently cover CM and both fullback positions.
 
DavelinaJolie said:
Personally, no. The line has rigidly been about FFP, whether or not that is true, it seems they aren't looking to do more than what they now have.
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Same. I think Ugarte will be the last. But I’d like another in (even if an initial loan) if Sancho leaves (which I don’t think will materialise due to his wages)
 
Insanity said:
May be Amass too in a few months time when he is more physically ready and has familiarized himself with the first team?

Like I said, I am 51-49, wouldn't mind a CM as the only option we have if Mainoo is not available is Eriksen. Who I still think can be useful but would be scared if we need him to start say 5 games in a row.

Do you think we'd see a Case-Ugarte combination in the midfield? Case is more of a passer of the ball than a ball winner these days, so that might be an option.

Other than that we may see a return of a 4141 formation from last season with two #10's in front of a defensive midfielder. Ugarte at the base and Bruno & Mount on either side...may be that can work with an all action midfielder in Ugarte.
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On LB - Possibly, and of course there could be a surprise signing like Hermoso on a free to cover that position further after the window closes? I do think Amass should get some minutes this season though, to see if he has a future in the first team as a starter.

With Eriksen, the worry is that we are one injury to Mainoo away from having to rely on him for a long period of time, Eriksen helps us unlock tough defences but we become so vulnerable to counter-attacks when he plays more than 20-25 minutes (on the eye test, I admit I don't have the stats to back this up). I agree with you on Casemiro's evolution, Case and Ugarte will probably play together but maybe against the likes of City, Arsenal and Liverpool and other top 6-8 teams. In games against the rest, we may need some energy in midfield (That Case/Eriksen won't consistently bring) to take apart a low block while remaining solid against counters (via Mainoo / New CM). If we don't end up signing another CM, I'd expect Casemiro to share some of Kobbie's and Ugarte's minutes with Eriksen also playing a limited role. Given the sort of backup options we have in midfield, I'd say I'm 51-49 in favour of a CM over a LB.

Ugarte-Mount-Bruno: I personally think we'll struggle with this, might work in a few easy cup games but not in the PL even against the bottom half teams - but I mean who knows, Ugarte hasn't played with this team yet, he may end up working out in that setup too.

I'd be happy with either position being filled, and we do have some options for both positions through free transfers.
 
On paper it's been a fantastic transfer window with inbound transfers. The injury to Yoro is a shame, but we have 3 solid options there just now and it gives him time to settle in a new country. No problems with any of the outgoings either, moved on a couple of players that worked hard but weren't quite up to standard, plus purged a whole swathe of youngsters that weren't heading for the first team.

I still worry about LB and wouldn't be surprised to see a late loan signing, but all up I think we're done.
 
We have signed 5 players that are all of a good wage for the first team and a few highly rated youngsters for the future and offloaded some squad members and possibly more to come.
We have an all conquering u18 side that will transition further this season so the future looks bright.
This should go down as a good window.
 
Rome wasn't built in a day and all that. We needed so many holes filling that we were bound to go into the new season with a few remaining. But two more summer windows with the same sensible approach we showed this year and we'll be in a great place.
 
Shabby as she goes said:
We have a range of players able to cover on LB until Shaw/ Malacia are back.
Who’s cover for Mainoo, or you see him play 60 full games this year?
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Undortunately the only coverage we have for Mainoo are:

- Collyer in cup games, even though he is more of a dmf and our system will have to change ro double pivot
- Erikssen, if he doesnt leave, in lesser games
- Mount, even though Mount is not really a #8 and should be more of Bruno coverage
 
Its unlikey we'll make more signings but if we did a DLP such as Andre Trindade would be a superb affordable signing.
 
We should be looking at Jonathan David, last year of contract and we desperately need a number 9.
 
If we get anything for Sancho, then maybe a surprise signing, LB cover or another young talent, but quite possibly INEOS will just quit whilst they are ahead and save some FFP/PSR for the next window
 
Roux said:
We should be looking at Jonathan David, last year of contract and we desperately need a number 9.
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It won't be us but I thought a Premier league side would have snapped him up by now.
 
NewGlory said:
Undortunately the only coverage we have for Mainoo are:

- Collyer in cup games, even though he is more of a dmf and our system will have to change ro double pivot
- Erikssen, if he doesnt leave, in lesser games
- Mount, even though Mount is not really a #8 and should be more of Bruno coverage
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Mount's said in the past that his preferred position is number 8, so we may end up giving him a whirl there. Whether he can do it successfully is another matter of course.
 
Grande said:
What about watching David majes you convinced he is a better 9 than Højlund and Zirkzee?
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Zirkzee isn't a number 9 and we have no real alternative when Højlund is injured or when you need another striker off the bench.
 
croadyman said:
Wouldn't be surprised if interested parties wait it out a bit for Rabiot as there is no deadline on signing him

Quick question to anyone who actually believes we are gonna get a surprise deadline day signing

How do you believe it's going to be funded?
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If we sold Sancho for a decent fee it might give us room to bring another player in. Surprised we haven’t tried to flog Maguire we could get £30 million from a premier league team to give us a bit more funds
 
Zed 101 said:
If we get anything for Sancho, then maybe a surprise signing, LB cover or another young talent, but quite possibly INEOS will just quit whilst they are ahead and save some FFP/PSR for the next window
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Might change my mind if Sancho and/or Eriksen go but can see the logic in that unless a decent opportunity arises.
 
quadrant said:
Mount's said in the past that his preferred position is number 8, so we may end up giving him a whirl there. Whether he can do it successfully is another matter of course.
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Yeap. Not ideal but overall better than what we had last year

It will have to do. Results will be expected by INEOS or Erik is out. No more excuses
 
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