Expect we're done but if we do add someone I'd want it to be another midfielder. Maybe Rabiot if he doesn't ask for big wages. That is unless we manage to offload someone like Sancho or Rashford. In that case a winger like Chiesa (rumoured to be available for cheap) would be good.
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Very true, however think it's academic as expect him to join Al Ahli before their window closes on Oct 6. Don't see any way he is still on the market to be picked up on free next summer
Its based on goals, which we severely lack and have done for a while now. He could easily add 20 goals for us rotating with Hojland and sharing the load.
Sancho replacement and Eriksen replacement (if we can move him on)
Yeah, he's a very good penalty taker. We already have one of those.
As above, Brentford were a worse team when he came back and he ended up getting dropped. All of us, Arsenal, City, Spurs, Liverpool, Chelsea went into this window in the position of at least needing a backup striker, in some cases first choice, and none of them are in for him even at a pricepoint that is peanuts for a PL striker. He's simply not that good.
Only he does not press and so does not fit our gameplan or model
For the fee and wages not sure its worth the hassle. We do need to sign another attacking player though
Yeah sharing the load would have taken so much pressure off Rasmus shoulders, unfortunately we couldn't find someone to take Sancho permanently to make it happen. Heck even selling Maguire would have definitely helped raise some funds towards it
I agree, we need to bring in another goal scorer, be it an experienced striker or winger. But I don't think Hojilund was necessarily a problem last season. He did well with what he was working with. As a team we simply don't create enough chances, and I can't see that improving unless Ugarte really takes the load off our midfield and Bruno and Mainoo can start cooking further up the pitch. Hopefully that's the case.
That's a different argument.
Yep, I expect the same also.
I would be in for Chiesa as part of the Sancho deal if the 15m EUR is correct. A lot is made of his injury record but a big contibutor was the ACL he suffered. Very different profile to Amad, Anthony, Garnacho and Rashford. Contract heavily linked to play and performance wouldnt be a massive risk.
We need a winger that can dribble passed an opp. effectively.
If we can rid ourselves of Sancho and bring in someone with that quality, we will have a great season.
If we can rid ourselves of Sancho and bring in someone with that quality, we will have a great season.
I think he did really well too - but his lack of experience definitely showed last season, he's still learning. He could really use some help.
Definitely wouldn’t put it past us signing one more if we can rid Sancho and the right player comes up but it’s more likely that’s our business concluded.
Doesn't look like Eriksen is going anywhere
Depay the most appealing of those. We need another body up front
Who would you see as the right player?
All the news coming out that we were reluctant to sell McT means that as per an earlier report, Ugarte was not dependent on that deal. We’ve lost two midfielders today with McT and Hannibal so I would be quite surprised if we don’t get a backup CM in, even if that’s Amrabat again or Rabiot free. Maybe even both of them!
and I know this is NUTS but I’m not ruling out De Jong, which would set me off on a muppet *** fest.
and I know this is NUTS but I’m not ruling out De Jong, which would set me off on a muppet *** fest.
fecked if I know. I’d hope our scouts have an idea though
A controlling midfielder please. Can probably move Eriksen as well if that happens
Looks like Rabiot wouldn't have fitted into INEOS structure so guess that's why we never moved
There were rumours about Ajax
We've only really lost one midfielder as Hannibal has been in the periphery and on loan for seasons now. We have midfield options of Mainoo, Eriksen, Casemiro, Ugarte and Collyer. In a pinch there's Mount.
As much as I'd like to see us sign another midfielder, I just don't think it's going to happen.
I live in the Netherlands, but I don't hear them here.
We could still? Maybe we already offered him our proposal and is he waiting for a better deal and could still be on his way to Utd after the transferperiod is closed.
Yeah they pleaded poverty
Miguel Gutierrez would be the cherry on top. or a CM like Koné.
Turns out Chelsea are in fact, now in for him.
Well, if one of the big clubs had to be daft enough...
Think we need a winger if Sancho goes. At this stage Rashford and Antony are write offs. Amad still can’t last longer than 70 minutes and has a terrible injury record. Ideally we should get a RW.
I'm not sure if we'll add anyone else after Ugarte, but if we do make a deadline day signing I will go out on a limb and say they'll be British/'Homegrown'.
We have or will have (probably) offloaded Greenwood, Williams, Kambwala, Wan-Bissaka, Pellistri, Forson, McTominay, Hannibal, and Sancho if things go to plan.
That's nine players who counted toward the homegrown rule and all of our signings thus far have been foreign players (Yoro, De Ligt, Mazraoui, Ugarte, Zirkzee). I'm convinced we will have to sign a British player.
We have or will have (probably) offloaded Greenwood, Williams, Kambwala, Wan-Bissaka, Pellistri, Forson, McTominay, Hannibal, and Sancho if things go to plan.
That's nine players who counted toward the homegrown rule and all of our signings thus far have been foreign players (Yoro, De Ligt, Mazraoui, Ugarte, Zirkzee). I'm convinced we will have to sign a British player.
Thats why there rumours about Toney and Sterling .
And Sterling as a loan seems quite possible at the moment.
Sadly we haven't the funds to get Toney, why not get Rabiot on a free when the window has shut
I agree we need more goals, though there is only a tenuous relation between putting a goalscorer in the team and the team scoring more goals, obviously.
I agree Højlund and Zirkzee are only in their beginning of their carreers, and David seems a more moulded player despite only being some years older than the two former. Still, as they are more or less 1-in-3 game scorers now, as David was two years ago, they are to me not far behind him in that respect alone, as he is now on a 1-in-2 ratio. Indicating he is somewhat more prolific, but not that much - and how long will that last? To me, Højlund and Zirkzee seems to have other attributes that David lacks, while still being not far off him in goal scoring either. Neither are anything like bringing in a Kane, a Haaland or a Lewandowski. This goes for Toney as well.
Toney or David might get us a few extra goals more on their own in the short term, but maybe the team doesn’t score more. And the long term upside with me seems bigger with Højlund and Zirkzee. This is all just hypothetical, obviously.
Victor Osimhen for €65 million loan with obligation.
Despite my above post saying I was convinced we need to sign a British/Homegrown player, I think there is actually just about enough room for one more foreign player. Assuming I'm not forgetting anyone (entirely possible)...
[16] Foreign Players over 21-years-old (I believe we can register 17 at most):
Bayindir, Onana
Lindelof, Mazraoui, De Ligt, Martinez, Dalot, Malacia
Bruno, Casemiro, Ugarte, Eriksen
Hojlund, Zirkzee, Antony, Amad (actually not 100% on Amad, he may count homegrown)
[6] Homegrown (25-man squad must contain at least 8 in conjunction with above players):
Heaton
Maguire, Evans, Shaw
Mount
Rashford
[7] Under 21's (do not need to be registered):
Yoro, Amass
Mainoo, Collyer, Gore
Garnacho, Wheatley
[3] Expected to leave:
McTominay, Hannibal
Sancho
We could actually sign one more foreign player and some homegrown/under 21's if this is indeed the projected squad come deadline day. I could also just be waffling crap if rules have changed without me realizing...
Can't find Final on FBref ? What's his xG and progressive passes completed percentile ?
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I think he is that good. He just seems to be a bit of a melt. He would have been a great signing for West Ham. Would have added quality to a position they need it, and most of the players in their forward line would have linked well with him I think.
Toney seems to be way too big for his boots, often inconsistent and has baggage. I thought Arteta might gamble on him, but couldn’t see United, Liverpool or Chelsea signing him and him being successful.
Yeah, while we might disagree on his ability level, that would be my other issue with him.
Even before the gambling issues, he was in the press a few times slagging Brentford off for no reason at all. Seems like a massive big time charlie.
They are struggling to score goals anyway. The one thing missing is an experienced centre forward. There is a place for everyone during a 50 game season - there was too much pressure on Hojlund last season to do too much - he absolutely needs help. A player like Toney can easily occupy 2 central defenders by himself (something Hojlund will learn to do with time, but he can't do it currently) - this creates more space for the team. Just having a player who could realistically bring in 20 goals (alongside our other attackers) would be a no brainer.
We are also in a huge hole if Hojlund gets injured again, we cannot go into another season with one young number 9 who is already missing 6 weeks - the 2 games so far have already highlighted that. I don't know if Toney is that signing - looks like Chelsea want him now, but we need someone.
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Yeah much as I'm staying on that train until Friday at 11pm it doesn't have to him. I just want us to pick up someone good in air who can score some goals to take pressure off Rasmus. Oh and obviously still hoping we realise after window has closed that Rabiot could give us another option for an 8 with Kobbie
I think Zirkzee can play that part. He scored 16 for Anderlecht and 11 (2 pens) for Bologna as a central attacker. Toney from open play has scored 14 and 7 league goals not counting last season. David without pens has 17 and 14 in the french league. The difference isn’t huge.