I'd say we're done now.
Final Signing
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Dalot, Mazaroui, Martinez and Amass can all play LB if needed
Some of you are gluttons for punishment
Wouldn't mind Toney at £30m but it will never happen. He should hold on for 12 months instead of going to Saudi, one of the big clubs will take a gamble on him if he keeps scoring.
I think we'll go for a central midfielder after Sancho is sold, we're a little lightweight in the midfield department. It won't be an extravagant 50m + signing, just someone who can put the work in.
I'm on the Toney bandwagon now.
I just can't see Brentford letting him go for cheap when they have big offers from Saudi. He'd have to sit out the next 6 months at least and see if Brentford can cut a deal for him in January or lose him for nothing in July.
A loan deal for Chilwell on the final day with an option for cutting it short in December would be a nice bit of business.
We ideally need another goal scorer, be it a winger or a striker. Somebody who guarantees goals. However they'll probably look at Hojilund coming back in 2-3 weeks and pray he can kick on. I'm not sure how he can in this league at the moment if he's not playing through injury.
Wide attacking threat is what we need. Sancho/Antony not up to it and Garnacho/Amad too inconsistent for now.
We won't get anyone though unless it's Sterling plus money for Sancho.
We won't get anyone though unless it's Sterling plus money for Sancho.
Sancho eriksen lindelof/maguire out and one winger and one midfielder except ugarte in would be ideal.
He would have had at least 3 goals for us by now
Seems to me you are too categorical about Zirkzee based on what I’ve seen. There are different ways of operating with a no 9, and it seems to me Zirkzee has the skill set to be able to work in that capacity.
I think we need to sort out the midfield and backline this window.
Next window we can go all out on attacking players such as two top wingers. Problem is for us right now we need a team of runners, players that press and make the pitch smaller for other teams to play in, a team that we suffocate opponents, right now adding a winger or two is nice but if we can't keep the ball or press what's the point.
It is what it is, we need a ball progressor from deep now that we can really dominate games.
Are there any veteran centre forwards that could act like a stop gap for the season? Either free agents or cheap? Someone like Danny Ings from a few years ago.
We need an out and out goal scorer. Just looking at last season and the two games this season, we obviously lack the goals no matter what system we operate.
Zirkzee & Holland are not prolific and are still very raw / early into their careers. Ivan Toney or David are out and out goal scorers and have far more experience.
Completely agree we need to be looking at those areas but a midfield playmaker surely has to be top priority next summer
Out and out goalscorer Ivan Toney's best ever PL season: 0.43 non-penalty goals per 90.
Not-prolific Rasmus Hojlund's first ever PL season: 0.42 non-penalty goals per 90.
We still need midfielders and a striker to be honest.
Choupo-Moting, Depay, Ben Yedder, and of course Anthony Martial are all free agents.
It's never as simple as that. Last year we created less in terms of chances than the likes of Brentford, Bournemouth and Everton. What we really need is less selfish play from our wingers, and better decision making the final third.
Hojlund's finishing was elite when he actually got the chances, but they rarely came because all of Rashford/Garnacho/Antony want to cut in and twat it as their first, second and third choice, when a much better chance could have been created by looking for a pass or cross. In some cases they need time and guidance, in others we probably just need to get rid.
It's not just a case of lets buy a bloke who knocked in a load of penalties two years ago = more goals.
Good thing is no one has took him yet, so can still explore the opportunity at any time
Pretty good for a relatively newly promoted team, flirting with relegation - imagine what he could do at United?
He shouldn't even be playing
Think it's more a case that Brentford won't allow it
Brentford can't do anything if he wants to sit out his contract. He can also discuss contracts with teams abroad from January, and even sign. Then said team can discuss an early release from his contract at a knocked down fee. I'm sure he'd get minutes for Brentford this season also, it's not like they have goalscoring forwards in abundance.
I think it is simple - Hojlund missed plenty of decent chances last season. To put it all on the wingers is a lie.
Brentford that season: 57 goals & 56.5 xG.
United last season: 58 goals & 56.3 xG
Imagine what Hojlund could do for a United not playing exactly like a newly promoted team.
Ths difference being that the 21 year old is much more likely to improve than the 28 year old.
Coming off the bench. He can replace Mctomminay now in that regard.
He would have had at least 3 goals for us by now
We haven't been awarded any pens so far this season.
Hojlund was part of the problem with those stats - relying on him as our only number 9 will haunt us (again).
It really isn't. Last year, Hojlund scored 10 goals from 9.3 xG. "Proven goalscorer" Ivan Toney managed 4 from 7.1.
The real problem is obviously that Brentford made almost as many chances for him in half a season as we made for Hojlund in a full one. He was actually much less efficient with his finishing than Hojlund was.
I'm not sure how a 20 year old in his first season in the PL, who scored double digits without a penalty, can be part of the problem. A few of those goals also came from creating his own danger, rather than somebody creating it for him.
I would defos go for him too.
21 goals for a team that finished 16th. Toney (or someone else like David) is a no brainer with Hojlund injured.
You could make the same based-on-nothing argument about Toney. Especially as Brentford's attack literally did better while he was out of the team. The below as of Toney's return from suspension:
Would take Choupo-Moting or Ben Yedder as free agents and don't see them asking for daft wages
With all the chances that we created for Hojlund, he'll probably score 6 maybe 7?
We don't have the funds to buy the absolute top level wide forward we need to be competing at the very top, that will have to wait for next summer.
So for me, a good CM to compete with Mainoo would top off a great summer.
So for me, a good CM to compete with Mainoo would top off a great summer.
Because he's still raw and learning the game, adjusting to a tough league - he needs to share the load with someone.
Bringing in an experienced striker would be a wise decision no? Especially when Hojlund is currently injured.