This place is going to be priceless in the summer if we sign Zaha, Falcao and Garay and don't sign a centre midfielder.
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The reported fee is £43million to get him here, absolutely no chance.
As far as Balague goes, it could be possible that we're paying them for a different player or maybe even just regular payments for De Gea and he got misinformed?
RVP isn't suffering from a lack of chances in his run of not scoring, he's had chances but has uncharacteristically missed them.
I wouldn't say he gets a lot of good quality service though.
Yeah, and I would argue it is his best position too. Not sure where this talk/rumours are coming from, but it seems (taking the Lewandowski rumours into account) we're indeed in the market for another striker. Very strange as we have two of the best in the world already and two very promising ones too. On the other hand Welbeck could be turned into an inside forward/winger permanently, Rooney moved back to CM (we're probably losing three players in CM this year – Scholes retiring, Anderson sold, I doubt Fletch will make it back to competitive level) and voila – a lack of options upfront. In this case Falcao would make sense, even with Rooney staying.
Financially I don't see the need to sell Rooney, the new TV deal is kicking in, we're gaining money through commercial deals left right centre, the Nike renewal is coming up etc.
They usually do not happen, but maybe a player + cash exchange? I could easily see Nani and/or Anderson moving to Madrid + around £25-30m.
I think both of them really fit the bill of Atletico signings to be honest.
I don't think you're watching properly then. We create plenty of chances for strikers to score goals. We always have done.
If RVP was paired with Falcao in our present set-up i've no doubt they'd get a shitload of goals between them.
Used to think with that Rooney a few seasons ago!
Why has your opinion changed? He still scores plenty of goals.
This season? We've struggled to create quality chances centrally for a few years now and the wingers have had their worst seasons on record, RVP has been working on scraps and it's to his credit he's scored as many as he has, probably because he's so good. RVP looks isolated a lot of the time and I don't blame him in the slightest.
It'd be hilarious if this happened, basically signing the best striker in the world but most people would be upset about it because of the cost and the fact that he's not a midfielder.
I don't think anybody would be dissapointed, more like confused.
Our problem isn't scoring goals it's controlling games.
He's missed a number of sitters in his run of 10 games without a goal. He missed an absolute howler against Chelsea in the cup. We are still creating chances, we've just had a spell where we aren't putting them away.
I get that RVP is a shiny new toy, but why don't we just call a spade a spade and admit he's been on a bit of a down turn in form for a few weeks, and hasn't taken chances that he'd have buried at the start of the season?
Sky Bet have now cut the odds.
He's missed sitters throughout the entire season, but usually he made up for it by creating something on his own or a bit of magic, that hasn't happened in the last 10 games though. I agree though, he's lost form and it's a bit strange that people continuously fail to acknowledge that and blame everyone else.
You aren't half pedantic, even if he scored a few of those, I would still make the same point, that he doesn't get a ton of good opportunities from the team, and that the good chances he gets, he makes a lot of them for himself - because he's great at it. You're missing the point and getting fixated by the fact I mentioned his 10 game run. Forget about it.
Of course he has been 'poor' by his own standards in terms of finishing, but that doesn't have to mean when he was scoring, it was all down to the fantastic all-singing all-dancing team that makes him loads of chances - it was mainly down to him.
Can you imagine how disappointing it will be in tomorrow press conference when Fergie denies the transfer. I can just see him saying the below.
"There is no truth in the story".
"I'm happy with my squad"
"There is no value in the market".
"There is no truth in the story".
"I'm happy with my squad"
"There is no value in the market".
I don't think I'll be able to go on living
But we do create chances. I'm not being pedantic, i'm just suggesting that we create more chances than you seem to be making out we do. We've scored 100 goals this season. Teams that don't create a lot of chances generally don't score anywhere near 100 goals a season.
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Winger X RVP Winger Y
Now this could be sick, with the right wingers.
Winger X RVP Winger Y
Now this could be sick, with the right wingers.
I'm not saying the team doesn't have a lot of chances overall, just specifically for the strikers and the kind of chances that a player like Falcao needs is all.
We have created chances well all season, but the last few games have certainly become tighter on that front. It is noticeable even in the chelsea and city games we made like 5 chances in each game? that isn't enough for 90 minutes of football.
It's plenty if you score them.
If we'd scored 50% of the chances we created in those two games we'd still be in the cup and would still have a 15 point lead at the top of the table.
Isn't happening.
That's not what you said though. You said this...
You said we offer little quality service to our strikers, which is nonsense. We create plenty of chances for our strikers to score goals. RVP has over 20 goals this season, he didn't create all those chances for himself, nor did he create all the chances he has missed himself either. In fact, i'd say the huge majority of RVP's goals this season have come from passes or crosses from other players, rather than him making goalscoring opportunities for himself out of nothing.
It's an awful idea to be honest. Rooney is a forward and should remain one, he'll be nearly 28 at the start of next season and he's never played as a midfielder before - it's too late to convert him and there's no point trying. We'd be playing a centre half (Jones) and a forward in midfield instead of buying an actual midfielder. Awful.
That's that then.
Carrick's been on his own half the season anyway, Sir Alex is just taking it to another level.
DDG
Rafael - Rio - Vidic - Evra
Carrick
Winger - Rooney - Winger
Falcao - RvP
Rafael - Rio - Vidic - Evra
Carrick
Winger - Rooney - Winger
Falcao - RvP
Really hope this doesn't happen. It doesn't make one bit of sense. For that money (that's being speculated of course), we should pump in abit extra and get Ronaldo instead. If not, like what so many have said already we should be looking at midfielders first and foremost.
Isn't he a little old for us to be spending that sort of bread on?
I think, people talking shit about Balague are a bit unfair. He does have a habit of spouting bollocks on occasion, but he's friendly with a few Spanish players and managers and certainly have better sources in La Liga than any other British based journo.
He was the first one to break the Torres to Chelsea story, for example, and got a lot of crap from scousers at the time.
Still, I'm surprised at this rumor. The supposed fee and the destination just don't seem credible. The "no need for another striker" argument aside, what about his wages? I'd imagine, they'll be huge, wherever he ends up and if you add that to an astronomic fee, that's a huge investment in a player, who doesn't really improve your squad by that much.
He was the first one to break the Torres to Chelsea story, for example, and got a lot of crap from scousers at the time.
Still, I'm surprised at this rumor. The supposed fee and the destination just don't seem credible. The "no need for another striker" argument aside, what about his wages? I'd imagine, they'll be huge, wherever he ends up and if you add that to an astronomic fee, that's a huge investment in a player, who doesn't really improve your squad by that much.
Sign Garay
Sign Lewandowski/Falcao
Move Jones and Rooney permanently as midfielders.
Job done
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Sign Lewandowski/Falcao
Move Jones and Rooney permanently as midfielders.
Job done
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Wont happen agent trying to get a buzz so city and Chelsea offer him mega bucks.
Now Balague has come out to back the story means it's defo rubbish, he knows jack shit !
If it does happen Rooney will prob be sold. Another interesting story doing the rounds is that along worn thiago this is gUardialo's choice signing for when he takes over from SAF.
Now Balague has come out to back the story means it's defo rubbish, he knows jack shit !
If it does happen Rooney will prob be sold. Another interesting story doing the rounds is that along worn thiago this is gUardialo's choice signing for when he takes over from SAF.
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Very good left foot, direct and powerful. Would suit the PL as proved by how he dismantled Chelsea earlier in the season.
Would do very well at United.
Would do very well at United.
As far as I am concerned, Falcao now plays for Manchester United
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