Falcao
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The idea that United contemplate spending £47m just to deny City a possible signing is ludicrous.
Which is pretty much what I said.
If Falcao is available, particularly for anything less than £30 million if Hernandez is going the other way its a no brainer. I think Hernandez is fantastic but I wouldn't have to think twice in a straight choice between him and Falcao.
Falcao - RVP, my word.
Falcao - RVP, my word.
Worse that that mate. I can't believe that some fans on here would be willing to get rid of Hernandez as a makeweight.
Hernandez is a great chap with a fine attitude, but the club comes first and the fact is that Falcao would make us a far stronger team than he does.
Then one would be wrong; he played CL in his debut season 2009/10 with Porto. 4 goals, 1 assist in 8 games (qualified from a group containing Chelsea, Atlético Madrid and APOEL; then eliminated in the R16 by Arsenal). He scored 2 against Atlético, 1 against APOEL (also an assist) and 1 against Arsenal. No pens. Responsible for 5/10 Porto's goals in that CL-campaign.
I'm just looking over RVP's CL knock-out stage record and it's not mightily impressive.
16 apps (11 starts), 5 goals (4 pen.), 2 assists
His only goal from open play in the knock-outs came against Barcelona. All at home too.
Rooney's is outstanding: 33 apps (30 starts), 14 goals (0 pen.), 7 assists. And his away record was better than Messi & Ronaldo's until the latter scored twice in Turkey.
This is a really interesting thread. When rumors about Falcao popped up, I actually expected a similar reaction (no need for another striker) to them from the fans as with Lewandowski.
To think, that there are actually people, who would welcome this transfer is peculiar, given that Lewandowski would be way cheaper and also more versatile.
To think, that there are actually people, who would welcome this transfer is peculiar, given that Lewandowski would be way cheaper and also more versatile.
We should go for Cavani as well as him.
Why the feck wouldn't people welcome it? This is arguably the best striker in the world we're talkin about here.
Because the huge load of money necessary for bringing Falcao to the Old Trafford would be used more wisely on other positions?
And like I said, if SAF wanted another top class striker why go for the clearly more expensive Falcao and not for the available Lewandowski? Unless of course people are rating Falcao way higher than Lewandowski, which has not much of a basis in my eyes.
Do you know our summer transfer budget then?
Thought Lewandowski is a cert to join Bayern?
Anyway he's not better than Falcao.
Anyway he's not better than Falcao.
We already have one of the best forwards in the world in van Persie and another in Rooney. We are short in midfield and lack quality on wings, our budget won't be £100m or anything close and even if it is we still need to consider the 25-player limit that we have to comply with. Spending £40m+ to improve the area we are already excellent in when we have plenty of issues in the team would be absolutely pointless as any improvement we could achieve with that would be very slight.
I agree that it is peculiar that we're seemingly in the market for another striker, but much like with RVP, if the manager considers it necessary, and its obviously improving our team, aswell as stealing from our rivals, then of course we should welcome it.
I agree, but as I said before, I wouldn't be against a player of his quality coming in. The priority for the summer should be to bring in a quality player like Moutinho to partner Carrick, as well as midfield cover, but there isn't much hope that we will strengthen there, also because the only players we are rumoured to sign are strikers and defenders.
The bold: Never said that. I think, that there is not much between them. One of them has two years more contract, though, and will be logically more expensive.
There is nothing fixed between Bayern and Lewandowski, yet, at least not officially. I´m sure, that Dortmund would be way more willing to give Lewandowski to a foreign club than to their biggest rival.
It's not really improving the team though IMO as I rate van Persie higher. I think he's more capable of creating something out of nothing than Falcao.
Falcao has produced many a magic moment himself but you're probably right, there isn't much in it though, and Falcao is the superior finisher when he's provided for. Though I suppose that'd be the problem, because we'd still need to sort out our wings and midfield so we can actually fashion chances for him.
Yeah that's the thing that would be so odd about this transfer. He might add some more goals to the team but I wonder how many more our current lot could get between them if we seriously invested in a quality midfielder first.
I don't know why people are comparing this to the old RVP thread. That contained posts against signing the best player in the league last season, despite the fact that we only had Rooney, Welbeck and Hernandez up front.
This signing would be far more mind boggling considering we managed to sign the league's top scorer last summer. It'd only make sense if Rooney or Hernandez were being sold.
This signing would be far more mind boggling considering we managed to sign the league's top scorer last summer. It'd only make sense if Rooney or Hernandez were being sold.
Falcoa is a serial killer in terms of finishing. Van Nistelrooy Style...
He might be marginally better or marginally worse but we could debate over it all day long and neither of us will be right or wrong. There's no point replacing an excellent world class player with someone who may or may not necessarily be better. And we have Rooney and van Persie who compliment each other well. We need to invest and use those 25-man slots on midfielders and wingers.
I never said anything about replacing Rooney or RvP though, in fact I agree with you, I'm just saying that I don't think RvP is the superior player like you do.
I was pessimistic about the RvP signing because we were so short in other areas but in the end it won us the title, I won't make a mistake like that again.
(as long as we sign a fecking midfielder).
That's not always how football works, if we had a better midfield we may have conceded less goals and not needed to score as many to save ourselves this season.
We've actually played better in the majority of our games when we've gone behind this season so a better midfield might actually have cost us the title. Be careful what you wish for.
Can he play CDM?
Not saying that I don't want him, but surely I can't be the only one to think that this won't happen. Not a United signing.
This is the only way signing would make financial and footballing sense. It will hopefully leave us with some dough to buy a decent CM. Seeing the back of Rooney, however painful, is the only way this transfer will ever materialize.
I can't imagine Rooney anywhere else but United. I'd not sure seeing Falcao with us would ease the loss of Rooney. Yes I understand the quality Falcao will bring, but Rooney's overall play, his playmaking especially, can not be replaced by Falcao.
I just can't see it. Rooney is here to stay in my opinion, and so is Hernandez. Sorry.
I just can't see it. Rooney is here to stay in my opinion, and so is Hernandez. Sorry.
Hope it's true.
And if it is I don't see any of our strikers leaving though they would take different roles perhaps.
I can see us making a fair few quid from selling a few players e.g Nani, Ando etc so the net sums could be realistic.
And if it is I don't see any of our strikers leaving though they would take different roles perhaps.
I can see us making a fair few quid from selling a few players e.g Nani, Ando etc so the net sums could be realistic.
He certainly hasn't been at his best this season in terms on playmaking. Yes he has a 9 assists, but 7 have been from the wing or from set-pieces. His general play has been poor this season, and I don't think he's that good and threading passes through in the middle.
From the wing or not, he's third in the assists table I believe behind Mata and Hazard. At the start of the reason, he was threading passes through to Van Persie fantastically well - one of my favourite goals was Van Persie's one against Reading, when Rooney dummied/deftly flicked it past the defence to Van Persie.
On form or not, Rooney can create chances out of nothing at times. Falcao's play-making is, well from what I've seen anyway, average. It would be strange to replace Rooney with a true, fantastically prolific goalscorer.
I personally wouldn't swap Rooney for Falcao. That's just me. I'm sure there are many here who would do the opposite.
On form or not, Rooney can create chances out of nothing at times. Falcao's play-making is, well from what I've seen anyway, average. It would be strange to replace Rooney with a true, fantastically prolific goalscorer.
I personally wouldn't swap Rooney for Falcao. That's just me. I'm sure there are many here who would do the opposite.
Which has not much of a basis? You got to be joking.
Instead of laughing about me, you could actually bring up arguments, why I should rate Falcao much higher than Lewandowski?
I never claimed the Polish as the better player, but it is hard to overlook Lewandowski´s performances in the last two seasons.
In the last season, he scored in 46 games 30 goals and 12 assists. In the current season he stands at 29 goals and 13 assists with 40 games being played.
He is one of the best striker when it comes to contribution to overall play outside goals, which can be seen by his unusual high assist count and his enourmous work rate in every game. He is also capable of playing the AM role.
Given the fact that Lewandowski is just 24 years old and has not hit his ceiling yet in difference Falcao, who is right now in his prime, I don´t see what is so outrageous about the fact, that I rate both of them at around the same level.
Ignore him, he doesn't actually watch any football, he's just here for the transfer muppetry.
It was too good to be true...is Heskey still playing!
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...ransfer-Man-Utd-do-not-want-Atletico-ace.html
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...ransfer-Man-Utd-do-not-want-Atletico-ace.html
I think it's because of the fact that many strikers look amazing in the bundesliga, much better then they actually are. Dzeko looked like one of the best strikers in the world at Wolfsburg, and although he is a very good striker, he's not as good as he showed in the bundesliga. Same with Mario Gomez, who always gets loads of goals there but he's not rated too highly. Lewandowski I think is probably at dzeko level, but not as good as Falcao who has shown what a great goalscorer he is everywhere he has gone.
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