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Hernandez's style of play isn't suited to how the team are headed, though. He's a poacher first and foremost and thrives on crosses into the box. When he's played at the head of a 4-5-1 formation, he's painfully out of his depth. I really like Hernandez and hope we don't get rid either, but Berbatov got the chop for not suiting our new vision of football and there's no reason why Hernandez couldn't meet the same fate.
Hernandez would have scored some goals in our 1999 side with the service from Giggs and Beckham. In terms of poachers, he's among the world's best, but other than that, his all-round game isn't, I'm afraid. The thing with Hernandez is that he's such a likeable lad and people don't like to criticise him, but we have to be subjective here.
Hernandez would have scored some goals in our 1999 side with the service from Giggs and Beckham. In terms of poachers, he's among the world's best, but other than that, his all-round game isn't, I'm afraid. The thing with Hernandez is that he's such a likeable lad and people don't like to criticise him, but we have to be subjective here.
What makes you think falcao would sit on our bench? There's no chance that in the scenario we actually got him, that he wouldn't be an automatic first choice.
I feel like most of the people here don't watch him that often if they're seriously suggesting he wouldn't get in our first team easily, because over the past few years he's been arguably the best striker in the world. People are also getting this idea that he is just a poacher like Hernandez, but in reality, he can score basically any time of goal. He is basically the most complete number 9 in world football at the moment and he would walk into any side.
I agree, but there's always a place for a goal poacher. He's got us out of jail a few times.
Considering he's arguably the best striker in the world, got plenty of years left in his prime, was never known as an injury prone player, and got a few years left on his contract compared to the one rvp had. Also, falcao never said which club he wants to sign for yet, unlike rvp. Atletico will have every top team around the world fighting for his signature so his price will naturally be high.
Would be madness to sell Chicarito the lad is going to be a legend by the end of his career but to be honest I don't think Fergie is high on him anymore for whatever reason. He is determined to shove RVP down everyones throat until he starts scoring again even know he has already done enough this season to warrant his purchase. Because of this and Fergies insistence in playing Welbeck Hernandez has been left out far too much.
If Fergie were to let one of Rooney or Hernandez go, I think it would Rooney that he would let go.
A working pair of eyes and an understanding of football.
How annoying is Guillem Balague? After his tweet yesterday he comes out with this vague bullshit today:
I think its clear for all to see that this story has legs, but whether they will get up and start running is a different matter.
Looks like Gill may have left the keys behind to that famous warchest as a goodbye present after all.
Looks like Gill may have left the keys behind to that famous warchest as a goodbye present after all.
Hear, hear. A Russian billionaire impulsively buying a new toy, and Kenny Daglish disavowing his ancestry, shouldn't be a standard of comparison.
I read that as 'Nazi sympathiser' and thought "Pretty brave on the Cafe - that's a ban right there!"
If Falcao does come, I hope it's to replace Rooney and not Hernandez. Falcao/Rooney/Rvp could be another train wreck in the making, like Tevez/Rooney/Berbatov. Play them together for one game, and then sit a world-class player on the bench - who walks at the end of the season for low money. Surely Fergie has learned his lesson, and won't repeat that mistake?
We don't need Falcao.
And his goal against Barca this season...
He's scored a lot of great goals - he's a much better 'chipper' than Rooney!
I love a good chipper.
The thing i like about him is every goal is different, he scores such a variety of goals its quite amazing.
That volley he controls on his chest and volleys backwards is absolutely beautiful, reminds of me Ronaldinho's goal.
You seem to think Benzema and Higuain are definitely worth over £30m but Hernandez isn't, in reality there's not much between the three of them.
The fact that Hernandez has started less games yet scored more goals should count in his favour surely, not be used as a stick to beat him with.
For the record I don't think any of them are worth £30m but then again I wouldn't say Falcao is worth £10m more than any of them. Doesn't matter what we think he's worth, he's worth whatever the buying club are willing to part with. At a club like PSG or Chelsea he could be just what they need, they have bundles of creativity but arguably need someone more clinical to finish off all the chances they create or just give them a different option in attack.
Said every poster last season about Van Persie, and look what he has done for us this season.
We could always use a world class player.
If we had to move Rooney or Nani, I would move either one of them for Falcao as he is better than both of them.
Adding Falcao and a CM would be a spectacular summer for us. I hope it happens.
Every time I've seen Falcao play this season (admittedly that hasn't been very often) I've thought he's world class, probably a shade better than RvP in the out and out striker role.
If we signed him and played RvP off him, we'd have the best strike force in the world. He is also a player who would improve City or Chelsea by a ridiculous amount. Who'd want to play against City with Aguero and Falcao up front? Or Chelsea with Hazard, Oscar, Mata off him?
I'd be sad if Hernandez leaves, but he deserves to play regular football.
If we signed him and played RvP off him, we'd have the best strike force in the world. He is also a player who would improve City or Chelsea by a ridiculous amount. Who'd want to play against City with Aguero and Falcao up front? Or Chelsea with Hazard, Oscar, Mata off him?
I'd be sad if Hernandez leaves, but he deserves to play regular football.
Yeah yeah he seems to have some amazing goals and that but none of those are against Stoke away on a cold tuesday night and I shall reserve my judgement until I see that happen.
Ridiculous post.
Aguerro didn't score against Stoke on a Tuesday night either while he was banging them in for AM.
I bet everyone will now be watching the Athletico Madrid games from until the end of the season.
Whats he like with his head?
They will want an absurd amount, seeing as he's 3rd party owned by an investment group closely linked to his agent Mendes. £55m is the buyout clause in his contract so that's the max they can get. Not much profit considering he was bought for €40m and has developed into the best striker on the planet.
His father already said last year that Falcao's dream is to play for Real Madrid.
His father already said last year that Falcao's dream is to play for Real Madrid.
No. But whoever the fund is, it is thought to be linked to Gestifute, Mendes' agency.
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Yep. If Barca/Spain can play false strikers, we can play false midfielders.
There is always room for a Falcao.
I've seen all their games this season.
Even the ones on at the same time as United?
The man is a technical finisher but I can't figure out why at 27 we now have an eye for him? I might have missed the hype wagon but why wasn't his name thrown around when Ronnie left? Is this a breakout year for him or has he always been this good?
And what is your assessment of him, is he worth £40m?
It seems Fergie is desperate to win the champs league one more time before he retires and feels with RVP and Falcao we have better chance of winning it.
I think games have clashed once or twice. Almost every Atletico game has been saturday or sunday night.
Based on his form in 2011 through all of 2012, easily. He's gone quiet this year at the same time atletico look to be going through a bit of a slump. If he's not getting the service he tends to disappear. I think Simeone likes to keep him forward rather than tracking back and helping start attacks. He would thrive in every big club, as he's usually lethal when given a chance.
I don't think he's the sort of player we should be after but it makes sense since City and Chelsea are going after a striker. If the team strenghten itself with Falcao it's only a good thing. City and Chelsea both would benefit greatly of having him. Besides him there aren't that many options for those teams to better themselves greatly. Cavani perhaps.
I wouldn't mind a Falcao-RvP partnership. Wouldn't mind that without the thought of Rooney leaving. I think we can pull that off. That would mean a different style of play for the most part which isn't too bad since there aren't as many wingers coming through the youth ranks as there was in the olden SAF days.
That's as much as I have to say about that as this is only a rumour.
I wouldn't mind a Falcao-RvP partnership. Wouldn't mind that without the thought of Rooney leaving. I think we can pull that off. That would mean a different style of play for the most part which isn't too bad since there aren't as many wingers coming through the youth ranks as there was in the olden SAF days.
That's as much as I have to say about that as this is only a rumour.
Curious remark. How many wingers did we produce in the 'olden SAF days'?
And we've signed Zaha, not forgetting Januszaj who's capable of playing wide
In that case we need to sort our wingers if we want Falcao to be productive in front of goal, and i'm not even gonna mention our midfield.
I'm talking about in football in general. Not exclusively youth product from Manchester United.
That's because teams use them differently these days. Look at Mata, Bale, Ronaldo who all started as wingers but are used as Wing forwards/AM's/False wingers these days.
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