47 Million for Falcao, 27 Million in Cash + Chicarito if you were to believe Daily Mail 
Is Chicarito really worth 20 Million?
Is Chicarito really worth 20 Million?
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We don't have the midfielders to play narrow. Such a system would require a very strong central midfield.
47 Million for Falcao, 27 Million in Cash + Chicarito if you were to believe Daily Mail
Is Chicarito really worth 20 Million?
I'd say he would be, yes.
47 Million for Falcao, 27 Million in Cash + Chicarito if you were to believe Daily Mail
Is Chicarito really worth 20 Million?
Wow.. I wouldn't sell the Chic for 20 squidders, yet you bawk at him being worth that? Do I overrate him or do you underrate?
Does 47m seem fair Falcao?
Comparing his age/profile/price against RVP...
47 Million for Falcao, 27 Million in Cash + Chicarito if you were to believe Daily Mail
Is Chicarito really worth 20 Million?
Easily worth £20, more like £30m as they would get an extremely reliable goalscorer who is younger too.
As Nani seems to be on his way out anyway (I don't want him to leave, but it seems inevitable), I'd suggest to throw Nani in and around £30m. Keep Chicharito, play Rooney in CM and Welbeck as a winger, RVP/Falcao/Hernandez upfront, problems solved
I think Hernandez is worth more than 20.
If he went to Atletico and played every game, i could see him matching Falcaos goal scoring IMO.
If he went to Atletico and played every game, i could see him matching Falcaos goal scoring IMO.
Easily worth £20, more like £30m as they would get an extremely reliable goalscorer who is younger too.
As Nani seems to be on his way out anyway (I don't want him to leave, but it seems inevitable), I'd suggest to throw Nani in and around £30m. Keep Chicharito, play Rooney in CM and Welbeck as a winger, RVP/Falcao/Hernandez upfront, problems solved
You won't get 30 for Nani... If I was offered 30 million, I wouldn't begrudge Nani leaving.
Rooney in cm... please no
Wow, I thought he was 15 Million Pounds max, but maybe I'm underrating him. He may very well score freely at Atletico, so 20 Million is not a bad shout after all. I'd have thought Nani is more marketable than Chicarito.
Well anyway, if we are signing Falcao and letting Chicarito go, will Falcao be happy on our bench, what with Chicarito only playing very few games this season.
Well anyway, if we are signing Falcao and letting Chicarito go, will Falcao be happy on our bench, what with Chicarito only playing very few games this season.
As Nani seems to be on his way out anyway (I don't want him to leave, but it seems inevitable), I'd suggest to throw Nani in and around £30m. Keep Chicharito, play Rooney in CM and Welbeck as a winger, RVP/Falcao/Hernandez upfront, problems solved
Rooney as a CM, Welbeck as a winger and you finish your post with "problem solved".... superb
Can I ask in what world is Nani more marketable than Hernandez? Out of interest, what would you rate as an 'expected' transfer value for the player? I would be happy with £20-30m for Nani and feel it would only be good business, Hernandez leaving for that price would worry me that he would bite us on the arse for it later...Nani is mid twenties already and has fallen out of favour quite heavily... his international record serves him well though
Maybe I'm a Nani sympathiser, but I think you are vastly underrating him (like I'm with Chicarito maybe?) The lad had a storming season last year, this year he was originally out of favour due to his contract demands and then injuries and loss of form. Last year, he was surely the best winger in the league including Bale and on form, I think he's better than Bale.
Of course, it's my opinion and counts for nothing.
We would definitely regret selling Hernandez in a few years, he will be be brilliant at his peak.
It's a smokescreen guys. We pretend to be interested in Falcao, next thing you know City and Chelsea are on the trail because they actually need a striker. Whilst they're fighting over Falcao and inflating the fee we sneak out the back door to buy a top quality midfielder. Am I right?
RvP was 29 and had a year on his contract, plus he wanted to leave.
Falcao will be 27, has a few years on his contract and hasn't really said he wants to leave, plus he cost Athletico £37m to buy.
When you think that Carroll was £35m and Torres £50m, then you'd see that Chicharito could easily cost £20m and maybe more, perhaps even close to £30m. If he played more regularly in our team, he'd easily get 20-30 goals every season.
I'm saddened by this talk.
I don't want us to sell Chicharito, or Nani.
We'd have scored more goals this season had our wingers been on form. I really believe Nani (get his contract sorted) should be starting weekly on the right, and we will see an improvement in our goal scoring - guaranteed.
We need a CM, that should be the focus.
I don't want us to sell Chicharito, or Nani.
We'd have scored more goals this season had our wingers been on form. I really believe Nani (get his contract sorted) should be starting weekly on the right, and we will see an improvement in our goal scoring - guaranteed.
We need a CM, that should be the focus.
I don't get why people constantly use these transfers as a basis really. They're clearly exceptional cases where all logic went out the window and should not be used as a comparison to how much other players are worth.
Rooney as a CM, Welbeck as a winger and you finish your post with "problem solved".... superb
ahm, I wasn't being serious mate. I desperately want us to keep Rooney and play him upfront, and of course, sign a CM. Falcao is not needed IMO.
I'd say that's more likely than us splashing €50 mill on Falcao.
Not a chance Hernandez is worth £30m-odd. Not unless you are including marketability. He's a substitute for pete's sake!
I didn't say he's worth over £30m. I said he's easily worth £20m and I also said maybe even close to £30m.
I'm well aware last year of his form and how his appearances this season have been limited due to not being in SAF's plans apparently, combining with not BRILLIANT performances when does play.
FWIW, I am a big fan of Nani, but my thoughts are outside of Manchester United, he isn't rated that highly, whereas the little pea is, was even linked to Real Madrid a season back.
Yea fair enough, I did pose it as an open ended question, I wasn't trying to presume the answer.. But FWIW, what is he worth to Manchester United? (Falcao I mean) in the sense that we would have to sell a player and pay a fee for Falcao obviously, me personally, the only person I would want to sell to make way for Falcao is Rooney and given the choice I would keep Roo...
Very strange comment, so, because he is a substitute, he can't be worth more than a certain value? I'm intrigued, what is that value?
Well, you may need to rearrange the sentence - but essentially true. He is a substitute because he is not a £30m player, as opposed to him not being a £30m player simply because he is a sub.
Anyway, to simplify it all, he isn't good enough to be worth that much. In my own opinion, I'd say he's worth between £18m and £22m, although given that he plays for a top club already and will likely move down a step if he leaves - he will probably be sold for about £14m in reality.
Ah see now that's different, I wasn't discussing his potential re-sale value, I was saying his worth. However, that being said, your post said
By 'hes a substitute', I took that as meaning that because he is a substitute, that is your reasoning for the fact he isn't worth 30m odd....
And all I'm saying in response to that (Albeit sarcastically in my original post) is that just because you don't get regular games, doesn't mean you are not worth 30 million. Sneijder last year wasn't starting, Nani isn't starting many for us, for RM they choose between Higuain/ Benzema usually so one of them is a 'substitute'. I'm not trying to be pedantic but being a sub for Manchester United isn't necessarily an indicator of not being good enough, more the crazy talent we currently have.
I can't recall us having many players worth £30m who are permanent subs for us. Players who cost £30m, yea, but being actual £30m players?
Benzema and Higuain is one good example, and the fact that they are both genuinely worth that kind of money is why neither of them is a permanent ub in the way Hernandez is. Sneijder is obviouly not agreat example either. A for Nani, he has the potential to be a £30m player, and invariably, when he goes through a spell of actually playing like one, he starts every week for us ahead of Valencia, who isn't a £30m player.
I would say that Hernandez is worth 20m. He actually has the best goals per minutes ratio in the history of the Premier League. 20m sounds about right for me.
£30m would suggest that he's amongst the best strikers in the world. He simply isn't. It's the sort of price City paid for Aguero, Barcelona paid for Villa and Madrid paid for Benzema, and more than we paid for van Persie.
I'd say €20m is fair for a player like Hernandez, this market is crazy.
Thank you. At least one other person sees it the right way.
It is mind boggling indeed. Why use them and not Mandzukic who has gone for about €10m, Lewandowski who is valued at €20m, Giroud and Podolski who cost £9m each or even Suarez who cost less than £18m. It's like you can't even have discussion because people will remind you about Carroll/Henderson/Downing as if it proved anything.
Apart from Carroll I can't see a £30m+ forward that moved in the past half a decade and wasn't world class. I had the same discussion about Hernandez in the Summer although then someone tried to convince me that £20m would be laughable or something of that sort. He really isn't a £30m player and at £20m we should be saying it's a good price.
Did the Falcao story get mentioned in today's press conference?
Robinho.
True but he was rated very highly at the time of that move. It didn't work out for Cury but Chelsea also wanted to pay similar kind of money for him. He was one of Madrid's best players.
Why, if they are so much better, have they not out-scored Hernandez this season then? He's scored 8 goals in 6 league starts this season, 3 in 5 starts in the CL and 5 in 8 cup starts, this in a season when most people agree our wingers have been pretty poor. Goals aren't everything but they are a pretty good indicator of a strikers' quality otherwise there wouldn't be all this fuss over Falcao.
His international record is also ridiculous, 30 goals in 45 games.
Hernandez also has to compete with Rooney and Van Persie up front who only a negative United fan would claim to be inferior to either Benzema or Higuain.
I have no idea what point you are trying to make, but simply put - Hernandez is not better than Benzema and Higuain.
I hope we dont sell Hernandez, it will be a big mistake. I would rather get rid of Welbeck or Rooney over Hernandez. If Falcao comes in, Rooney should be the first candidate to leave
Please don't sell Hernandez.
On the flip side I don't think you can claim factually Higuain/Benz are BETTER than Hernandez, its down to opinion surely, compare goals/game and I don't think it will be so far apart
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