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Refs certainly have a very difficult job and players dont make it easier.

Exactly. By acting like fannies.

Football is being ruined by a unusual mix of fannies and thugs.

You're on the side of the fannies, you're just as much a part of the problem as someone on the side of the thugs.

There is something rotten about the state of football at the minute. People laughing at the actions of hatchetmen like Van Bommel, people applauding crybabies like Busquets, etc etc.

It's a sad state of affairs.
 
Gerrard, Terry, Mascherano, A Cole, actually most of the Liverpool and Chelsea players really.
 
Na, if you can make a ref see what is going on then i don't see why you wouldn't. Is there any difference between talking to a ref and saying what's going on and adding a roll or two to a foul commited on you?

Rooney is the worst player i've seen for talking to referees, i dont see the world up in arms about it.

If you ask a ref if he'd rather he was verbally abused or a player over exaggerated a foul i imagine he'd prefere the latter. Just my opinion, i don't know what refs think about anything all i do know is that they have the hardest job in football.

Rooney does talk too much, but he's not the worst.
 
Exactly. By acting like fannies.

Football is being ruined by a unusual mix of fannies and thugs.

You're on the side of the fannies, you're just as much a part of the problem as someone on the side of the thugs.

There is something rotten about the state of football at the minute. People laughing at the actions of hatchetmen like Van Bommel, people applauding crybabies like Busquets, etc etc.

It's a sad state of affairs.

as i said i applaud it when it gets hatchetmen what they deserve.
 
Exactly. By acting like fannies.

Football is being ruined by a unusual mix of fannies and thugs.

You're on the side of the fannies, you're just as much a part of the problem as someone on the side of the thugs.


There is something rotten about the state of football at the minute. People laughing at the actions of hatchetmen like Van Bommel, people applauding crybabies like Busquets, etc etc.

It's a sad state of affairs.

:lol:

Well put.
 
Exactly. By acting like fannies.

Football is being ruined by a unusual mix of fannies and thugs.

You're on the side of the fannies, you're just as much a part of the problem as someone on the side of the thugs.

There is something rotten about the state of football at the minute. People laughing at the actions of hatchetmen like Van Bommel, people applauding crybabies like Busquets, etc etc.

It's a sad state of affairs.

Well said, but I could even understand the fanny fans if they had any consistency in their postings. How can you constantly slagg off the likes of Ronaldo for diving whilst praising Busquets for doing the same thing?

Bottom line is that FranklyVulgar is one of the worst hyprocites on here.
 
as i said i applaud it when it gets hatchetmen what they deserve.

There is no room to condone cheating or deception of any kind - even if it is to get hatchetmen sent off.

You're contradicting an earlier statement that you made

FranklyVulgar said:
two wrongs don't make a right

According to your latest nugget, apparently two wrongs are ok when the second wrong is playacting to get the hatchetman 'deservedly' sent off.

Does the logic work in reverse?

If someone dives without being touched, is it ok for the hatchetman to kick the diver really hard the next time - do two wrongs make a right in that instance?

After all, if the diver was willing to feign injury, surely the hatchetman is entitled to make sure the player actually is injured the next time he goes to ground?

:wenger::wenger:
 
There is no room to condone cheating or deception of any kind - even if it is to get hatchetmen sent off.

You're contradicting an earlier statement that you made



According to your latest nugget, apparently two wrongs are ok when the second wrong is playacting to get the hatchetman 'deservedly' sent off.

Does the logic work in reverse?

If someone dives without being touched, is it ok for the hatchetman to kick the diver really hard the next time - do two wrongs make a right in that instance?

After all, if the diver was willing to feign injury, surely the hatchetman is entitled to make sure the player actually is injured the next time he goes to ground?

:wenger::wenger:

:lol: good point, next time busquets takes a dive from nowhere and the opposition player gives him a kick for it later we'll see if FV changes his mind!
 
:lol: good point, next time busquets takes a dive from nowhere and the opposition player gives him a kick for it later we'll see if FV changes his mind!

He should do, that's his logic.

Cheating is ok if it is to right an injustice caused by earlier cheating.
 
Well said, but I could even understand the fanny fans if they had any consistency in their postings. How can you constantly slagg off the likes of Ronaldo for diving whilst praising Busquets for doing the same thing?

Bottom line is that FranklyVulgar is one of the worst hyprocites on here.

I've never saw Busquets go down when he hasnt been touched. That's the difference between exaggerating and diving. Diving is when you havent been touched, exaggerating is going down easy.

According to your latest nugget, apparently two wrongs are ok when the second wrong is playacting to get the hatchetman 'deservedly' sent off.

Does the logic work in reverse?

If someone dives without being touched, is it ok for the hatchetman to kick the diver really hard the next time - do two wrongs make a right in that instance?

After all, if the diver was willing to feign injury, surely the hatchetman is entitled to make sure the player actually is injured the next time he goes to ground?

So because it doesnt work in reverse that makes it wrong? because all logic has to work in reverse in order to work as logic?

Anyway it is never that simple, you cannot simplify these matters, every game is different and many situations are different and as usual it all boils down to the referee.

Current laws state if a player dives he should be booked so you are counting on a ref making a mistake. Furthermore if a hatchetman goes in hard and unfair then he should be punished by the ref. It is all in the refs hands and it is a lot for the ref to do.

I personally think there should be consequences for either but it's impossible in the case of fouling. It's all interpretable, a dive? i was getting out the way of a challenge. A foul? i was genuinely going for the ball.

Anyway you are right it doesnt make it right and i never said it was right.
 
So because it doesnt work in reverse that makes it wrong? because all logic has to work in reverse in order to work as logic?

No, not all logic.:rolleyes:

Just the logic that it is ok to right a wrong by cheating.

Why is it acceptable to dive to right wrongs caused by hatchetmen?
But not acceptable to deliberately foul to right wrongs caused by divers?

:confused::confused:
Anyway it is never that simple, you cannot simplify these matters, every game is different and many situations are different and as usual it all boils down to the referee.

Sometimes it is simple.

Diving and thuggery have no place in the game.

You're an enabler FV.:smirk:

Current laws state if a player dives he should be booked so you are counting on a ref making a mistake. Furthermore if a hatchetman goes in hard and unfair then he should be punished by the ref. It is all in the refs hands and it is a lot for the ref to do.

I agree, it is a lot to deal with.

Where we differ is that you think it's ok for fannies like Busquets to give the ref a helping hand.

I don't think it's ok at all, I happen to think playacting is cheating.


The best solution would be more help for the ref, whether it's technology, more officials, etc.

Even if there is no extra help forthcoming for refs from the relevant authorities, it still does not make it ok for players to 'help' the ref by diving.

I personally think there should be consequences for either but it's impossible in the case of fouling. It's all interpretable, a dive? i was getting out the way of a challenge. A foul? i was genuinely going for the ball.

Stop enabling the fannies.

You can get out of the way of a challenge without holding your face or your leg and acting like you are in serious agony.
Anyway you are right it doesnt make it right

Great, we agree that there is no excuse for diving and the sport would be better off without it.

and i never said it was right.

You did applaud it though.:nono:
 
Busquets doesn't dive.

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He's just a sophisticated diver who goes down on contact when it's nowhere near enough to make him fall over. Cheating basically.
 
There's clear rules against Wumming on this forum

Especially all year round

Get a grip man, take your petition to get me banned from the forum to a mod if you want it that bad...

i made the wenger smile for a bit of banter, i thought it would be funny and it was in response to the comment about me being wenger-esk.

IF you have zero sense of humour or just don't get it (understandable) then don't waste your time on a "cock, twat, fecking jackass" like myself.

Like adexkola said, take a deep breath, chill.
 
There's absolutely no difference, morally, between "going down easily" and diving. The only difference is the latter are better at seeking just enough contact to make it look more realistic.

Besides, this is a side issue to the true measure of what makes Busquets a despicable cnut. Which is pretending to be injured when he wasn't. That's fannydom of the first order and the single most annoying thing in football today.
 
No, not all logic.:rolleyes:

Just the logic that it is ok to right a wrong by cheating.

Why is it acceptable to dive to right wrongs caused by hatchetmen?
But not acceptable to deliberately foul to right wrongs caused by divers?

:confused::confused:


Sometimes it is simple.

Diving and thuggery have no place in the game.

You're an enabler FV.:smirk:



I agree, it is a lot to deal with.

Where we differ is that you think it's ok for fannies like Busquets to give the ref a helping hand.

I don't think it's ok at all, I happen to think playacting is cheating.


The best solution would be more help for the ref, whether it's technology, more officials, etc.

Even if there is no extra help forthcoming for refs from the relevant authorities, it still does not make it ok for players to 'help' the ref by diving.



Stop enabling the fannies.

You can get out of the way of a challenge without holding your face or your leg and acting like you are in serious agony.


Great, we agree that there is no excuse for diving and the sport would be better off without it.



You did applaud it though.:nono:

I agree with you i really do but my only real point is that he didn't dive in this instance. He went down theatrically which happens all the time. Attacking players tend to do this to give the ref a helping hand. The refs need help we all know that and yes I agree it isn't for players to decide to do that but until fundamentals change in football it will happen. Diving and thuggery, i agree with neither but Busquets is not the villian here, he didn't dive. He made the most of a silly challenge which in turn got a player what he deserved? is it right? no, it's not but does that stop me as a viewer from being happy about it? no it doesnt. Does that make me a cnut? sure thing.
 
I agree with you i really do but my only real point is that he didn't dive in this instance. He went down theatrically which happens all the time. Attacking players tend to do this to give the ref a helping hand. The refs need help we all know that and yes I agree it isn't for players to decide to do that but until fundamentals change in football it will happen. Diving and thuggery, i agree with neither but Busquets is not the villian here, he didn't dive. He made the most of a silly challenge which in turn got a player what he deserved? is it right? no, it's not but does that stop me as a viewer from being happy about it? no it doesnt. Does that make me a cnut? sure thing.

I didn't call you a cnut or anything though, to be fair.
 
Oh that ole nugget - he got touched so it isn't a dive. Whatever you want to call it - end of day Biscuits is a cheat. He looks for ways to get others carded/sent off - if that it exaggeration or waving the imaginary card or actual diving.

It seems like it is something that is coached/encouraged at the club - which is weird considering how good they are - that they feel the need to get a man advantage or have opposing players on yellows so they are lighter on the tackles. What exactly are they scared of that they can't just play without the cheating?
 
Sign somebody to a contract before you reach transfer terms with his club. Sounds like taping up if true.
 
There were just the same kind of stories during the Ronaldo saga, but it would be a clear case of tapping up if such a contract was uncovered. It's quite unlikely.