FranklyVulgar
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Rooney is the worst you've seen? I suggest you've not watched many other players then! He's bad yes but by no means the worst!
Who's worse?
He gets away with it because he's Wayne Rooney.
Rooney is the worst you've seen? I suggest you've not watched many other players then! He's bad yes but by no means the worst!
Refs certainly have a very difficult job and players dont make it easier.
Na, if you can make a ref see what is going on then i don't see why you wouldn't. Is there any difference between talking to a ref and saying what's going on and adding a roll or two to a foul commited on you?
Rooney is the worst player i've seen for talking to referees, i dont see the world up in arms about it.
If you ask a ref if he'd rather he was verbally abused or a player over exaggerated a foul i imagine he'd prefere the latter. Just my opinion, i don't know what refs think about anything all i do know is that they have the hardest job in football.
Exactly. By acting like fannies.
Football is being ruined by a unusual mix of fannies and thugs.
You're on the side of the fannies, you're just as much a part of the problem as someone on the side of the thugs.
There is something rotten about the state of football at the minute. People laughing at the actions of hatchetmen like Van Bommel, people applauding crybabies like Busquets, etc etc.
It's a sad state of affairs.
Exactly. By acting like fannies.
Football is being ruined by a unusual mix of fannies and thugs.
You're on the side of the fannies, you're just as much a part of the problem as someone on the side of the thugs.
There is something rotten about the state of football at the minute. People laughing at the actions of hatchetmen like Van Bommel, people applauding crybabies like Busquets, etc etc.
It's a sad state of affairs.
Well put.
Exactly. By acting like fannies.
Football is being ruined by a unusual mix of fannies and thugs.
You're on the side of the fannies, you're just as much a part of the problem as someone on the side of the thugs.
There is something rotten about the state of football at the minute. People laughing at the actions of hatchetmen like Van Bommel, people applauding crybabies like Busquets, etc etc.
It's a sad state of affairs.
as i said i applaud it when it gets hatchetmen what they deserve.
FranklyVulgar said:two wrongs don't make a right
There is no room to condone cheating or deception of any kind - even if it is to get hatchetmen sent off.
You're contradicting an earlier statement that you made
According to your latest nugget, apparently two wrongs are ok when the second wrong is playacting to get the hatchetman 'deservedly' sent off.
Does the logic work in reverse?
If someone dives without being touched, is it ok for the hatchetman to kick the diver really hard the next time - do two wrongs make a right in that instance?
After all, if the diver was willing to feign injury, surely the hatchetman is entitled to make sure the player actually is injured the next time he goes to ground?
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good point, next time busquets takes a dive from nowhere and the opposition player gives him a kick for it later we'll see if FV changes his mind!
Well said, but I could even understand the fanny fans if they had any consistency in their postings. How can you constantly slagg off the likes of Ronaldo for diving whilst praising Busquets for doing the same thing?
Bottom line is that FranklyVulgar is one of the worst hyprocites on here.
According to your latest nugget, apparently two wrongs are ok when the second wrong is playacting to get the hatchetman 'deservedly' sent off.
Does the logic work in reverse?
If someone dives without being touched, is it ok for the hatchetman to kick the diver really hard the next time - do two wrongs make a right in that instance?
After all, if the diver was willing to feign injury, surely the hatchetman is entitled to make sure the player actually is injured the next time he goes to ground?
I've never saw Busquets go down when he hasnt been touched. That's the difference between exaggerating and diving. Diving is when you havent been touched, exaggerating is going down easy.
So because it doesnt work in reverse that makes it wrong? because all logic has to work in reverse in order to work as logic?
Anyway it is never that simple, you cannot simplify these matters, every game is different and many situations are different and as usual it all boils down to the referee.
Current laws state if a player dives he should be booked so you are counting on a ref making a mistake. Furthermore if a hatchetman goes in hard and unfair then he should be punished by the ref. It is all in the refs hands and it is a lot for the ref to do.
I personally think there should be consequences for either but it's impossible in the case of fouling. It's all interpretable, a dive? i was getting out the way of a challenge. A foul? i was genuinely going for the ball.
Anyway you are right it doesnt make it right
and i never said it was right.
good point, next time busquets takes a dive from nowhere and the opposition player gives him a kick for it later we'll see if FV changes his mind!
Busquets doesn't dive.
Busquets doesn't dive.
Busquets doesn't dive.
FV is just wumming, and all you cnuts are falling for it
There's clear rules against Wumming on this forum
Especially all year round
Well atleast you accept that you're blind.
There's clear rules against Wumming on this forum
Especially all year round
No, not all logic.
Just the logic that it is ok to right a wrong by cheating.
Why is it acceptable to dive to right wrongs caused by hatchetmen?
But not acceptable to deliberately foul to right wrongs caused by divers?
Sometimes it is simple.
Diving and thuggery have no place in the game.
You're an enabler FV.
I agree, it is a lot to deal with.
Where we differ is that you think it's ok for fannies like Busquets to give the ref a helping hand.
I don't think it's ok at all, I happen to think playacting is cheating.
The best solution would be more help for the ref, whether it's technology, more officials, etc.
Even if there is no extra help forthcoming for refs from the relevant authorities, it still does not make it ok for players to 'help' the ref by diving.
Stop enabling the fannies.
You can get out of the way of a challenge without holding your face or your leg and acting like you are in serious agony.
Great, we agree that there is no excuse for diving and the sport would be better off without it.
You did applaud it though.![]()
I agree with you i really do but my only real point is that he didn't dive in this instance. He went down theatrically which happens all the time. Attacking players tend to do this to give the ref a helping hand. The refs need help we all know that and yes I agree it isn't for players to decide to do that but until fundamentals change in football it will happen. Diving and thuggery, i agree with neither but Busquets is not the villian here, he didn't dive. He made the most of a silly challenge which in turn got a player what he deserved? is it right? no, it's not but does that stop me as a viewer from being happy about it? no it doesnt. Does that make me a cnut? sure thing.