I can see Barca selling Zlatan if they get Fabregas. Barca would not spend 40m on him to have him on the bench as well, they will shift Iniesta to the left forward position and draft Fabregas in the center.
Fabregas wants to go to Barcelona
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I really don't understand why Barca want him now anyways. They have good midfield options already and next year Cesc will be one year less into his contract. Delaying the move is best for all parties including Cesc.
David Villa Speaks
DAVID VILLA last night piled pressure on Arsenal with a 'come and join me' plea to Cesc Fabregas.
Barcelona's new £34.2 million striker insists he will do everything he can to persuade his World Cup-winning team-mate to leave the Gunners.
And Villa thinks the London club, who have turned down an initial bid of £25 million from Barca for the 23-year-old midfielder, will eventually cave in and let their captain rejoin his old club.
He said: "I am not the Barcelona coach, nor the person responsible for reinforcements, but personally I will do the maximum to get Cesc here.
"He wants to play here and it will be quite normal if Arsenal finally do a deal. That would be great. A player of his ability will only increase our power.
"He'll help Xavi and Andres Iniesta - and I will score more goals with him in the side."
Read more: Villa: I’m in Fab fan club | The Sun |Sport|Football
DAVID VILLA last night piled pressure on Arsenal with a 'come and join me' plea to Cesc Fabregas.
Barcelona's new £34.2 million striker insists he will do everything he can to persuade his World Cup-winning team-mate to leave the Gunners.
And Villa thinks the London club, who have turned down an initial bid of £25 million from Barca for the 23-year-old midfielder, will eventually cave in and let their captain rejoin his old club.
He said: "I am not the Barcelona coach, nor the person responsible for reinforcements, but personally I will do the maximum to get Cesc here.
"He wants to play here and it will be quite normal if Arsenal finally do a deal. That would be great. A player of his ability will only increase our power.
"He'll help Xavi and Andres Iniesta - and I will score more goals with him in the side."
Read more: Villa: I’m in Fab fan club | The Sun |Sport|Football
Wish these Barca players would just button it. They're as bad as Calderon and RM.
I wonder if they had a team meeting where they were handed scripts and dates to talk to the press?
I'm guessing it's Iniesta then Valdes turn next, then Biscuits.
I'm guessing it's Iniesta then Valdes turn next, then Biscuits.
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Iniesta and Busquets have already done theirs, but it comes back around full circle
Are there any Barcelona players left who haven't told Arsenal that they absolutely need to let Cesc go?
Basically every memeber of the spain squad who play for Barcelona and every member of the youth team he played in who now play in the first team have came out and spoke about him.
So let me get this straight, it's all fine and dandy for a player to tell other fellow professionals what he wants, to basically let it widely known that he wants to move yet as soon as it's said in an interview by the players he's told it is suddenly a disgrace?
The differences i draw with Madrid and Barcelona (Ronaldo V Fabregas) is simple, Ronaldo lied a lot, he went through the motions of "only god knows" and even did a mock interview with himself stating that he wasnt leaving and was happy in manchester. Madrid players etc had no ties to him, they purely wanted him as he was a market buy BPITW etc and the players all came out saying how Madrid are the biggest club the Ronaldo deserves to play there etc. Also is everyone forgetting Ramon Calderons comments? i havent heard the Barcelona President spew that much bile. He's stated facts, they made an offer, it was refused, they want to sign him and are trying to negotiate... Also unlike Ronaldo every player coming out and speaking know Fabregas personally and are in a position to comment on him.
The only thing i dont understand is why they are so desperate for him to sign, he is not an important signing for him. He's a signing for the fans more than the club i feel. He's clearly improve things but will it really be that great? i guess if Iniesta continues to be as prone to injury as he has in recent years then of course he'll play a big part but really i don't see why they don't just wait.
Again it could be down to the presidential election, the make promises just like Madrid promised Ronaldo in order to get elected.
So let me get this straight, it's all fine and dandy for a player to tell other fellow professionals what he wants, to basically let it widely known that he wants to move yet as soon as it's said in an interview by the players he's told it is suddenly a disgrace?
The differences i draw with Madrid and Barcelona (Ronaldo V Fabregas) is simple, Ronaldo lied a lot, he went through the motions of "only god knows" and even did a mock interview with himself stating that he wasnt leaving and was happy in manchester. Madrid players etc had no ties to him, they purely wanted him as he was a market buy BPITW etc and the players all came out saying how Madrid are the biggest club the Ronaldo deserves to play there etc. Also is everyone forgetting Ramon Calderons comments? i havent heard the Barcelona President spew that much bile. He's stated facts, they made an offer, it was refused, they want to sign him and are trying to negotiate... Also unlike Ronaldo every player coming out and speaking know Fabregas personally and are in a position to comment on him.
The only thing i dont understand is why they are so desperate for him to sign, he is not an important signing for him. He's a signing for the fans more than the club i feel. He's clearly improve things but will it really be that great? i guess if Iniesta continues to be as prone to injury as he has in recent years then of course he'll play a big part but really i don't see why they don't just wait.
Again it could be down to the presidential election, the make promises just like Madrid promised Ronaldo in order to get elected.
The election's over and the new guy Rosell has said he won't break the bank to sign him. It doesn't really matter what the players say, though it would be amusing if he went to Barca and Iniesta or Xavi spent most of the season on the bench. 'Well you wanted him to come didn't you?'
Just a few points:
1. Real Madrid did have a number of players who had ties to Ronaldo, namely Pepe who was doing most of the sprouting to media.
2. What Ronaldo or Fabregas themselves said or did doesn't change the fact that Real Madrid and Barcelona have used very similar tactics to pursue the transfer. With ONE major difference, RM came up with a reasonable fee for Ronaldo, Barcelona unsettles the player and then try to play cheap and offer a ridiculously low fee (29m is ridiculously low in the current market).
3. You have also conveniently ignored my last point. What difference does it make that Cesc is Catalan. Does it make it okay if United pursue a Mancunian with similar tactics, but not if we pursue a Londoner like that?
1. that's one player, they also had Ruud who apparently wasnt a fan of Ronaldo whilst at United yet came out singing his praises.
2. I don't think the Fabregas to Barcelona has been going on half as long as the Ronaldo to Madrid has, it's only this summer that it's really taken off. It was always talked about because of point 3.
3. Yes i do, he is a lifelong fan, a catalan by birth and this is genuinely his home and his families home. For Ronaldo it was "a dream" his home is Madiera, a Portuguese island.
Catalans have a very strong sense of identity outside of normal spanish practice, it is simelar to the basque people in the basque region of spain. I also feel that the fact he was trained by the club does have significance. Nobody bats an eye when a youth player is snapped up for nothing from a club who invested heavily into his development. Yet to try and re-sign a player like that it is a disgrace.
I can clearly see differences in the Fabregas and Ronaldo transfer sagas but i'm not surprised that many don't.
What a load of crap. Has Fabregas been sold already? No? Then how do you know how much Barca have paid for him?
As for Ronaldo, are you seriously suggesting that £80m was the first and only offer made by Real Madrid? Here's a newsflash for you. They probably tried to sign him for less.
Oh Gawd, it's ancient history but as I actually remember the history I'll comment.
Ronaldo used to go round to RvN's for meals - the football arguments were typical winger Vs centre forward stuff. The only reason they attracted attention was Ronaldo was getting better just as RvN started to struggle. The Madrid players who talked about Ronaldo (and several refused to comment on "another club's player") in "he's a great player, he'd love it here" terms. They never talked about how United had to let him go.
Fabregas's position is different, he was a Barca player, he grew up with some of these players - the connection is strong and they are possessive. Too possessive when they're dealing with a player who is under contract. So possessive that when they talk about what he wants you can only imagine they're doing it to piss off the Arsenal fans and make Fabregas's life at Arsenal difficult and depress the price. Maybe it's not that cynical, but I think they know what they're doing.
I think Fabregas is too professional to break his contract, or to stop trying. I hope the Arsenal fans accept that just because he'd like to play for someone else, it doesn't mean he won't be happy to play for them. It really isn't incompatible. Then again maybe Arsenal with take 30m and Busquets and we'll roll around laughing after MOTD each week.
Ronaldo used to go round to RvN's for meals - the football arguments were typical winger Vs centre forward stuff. The only reason they attracted attention was Ronaldo was getting better just as RvN started to struggle. The Madrid players who talked about Ronaldo (and several refused to comment on "another club's player") in "he's a great player, he'd love it here" terms. They never talked about how United had to let him go.
Fabregas's position is different, he was a Barca player, he grew up with some of these players - the connection is strong and they are possessive. Too possessive when they're dealing with a player who is under contract. So possessive that when they talk about what he wants you can only imagine they're doing it to piss off the Arsenal fans and make Fabregas's life at Arsenal difficult and depress the price. Maybe it's not that cynical, but I think they know what they're doing.
I think Fabregas is too professional to break his contract, or to stop trying. I hope the Arsenal fans accept that just because he'd like to play for someone else, it doesn't mean he won't be happy to play for them. It really isn't incompatible. Then again maybe Arsenal with take 30m and Busquets and we'll roll around laughing after MOTD each week.
The usual suspects have derailed this thread off topic
just a day after Sultan warned people
just a day after Sultan warned people
No chance, Sergio B is a Barca and Spain legend in the making.
scrap that, he already is a legend. 21 world cup, champs league, la liga... what a player.
I think your predictions about the fate of Spurs and 'arry this season are more likely to come true than that one.
No chance, Sergio B is a Barca and Spain legend in the making.
scrap that, he already is a legend. 21 world cup, champs league, la liga... what a player.
True, Fabregas is going nowhere this summer.
the highlight of his season, showed incredible intelligence in getting the thug Motta sent off. I applaud him for that.
Probably because they haven't seen the thread. Where's it gone, I can't find it?
the highlight of his season, showed incredible intelligence in getting the thug Motta sent off. I applaud him for that.
Well that makes you a dick, unfortunately.
I could care less, since i respect you as a poster but i don't see how he's the worst of the worst when players in every team in every club do the same thing. Diving exists and he didn't even dive. He made the most of a foul in order to highlight it to the ref. Motta was the stupid one, not Busquets.
Motta was running around Van Bommel like, he was going to get sent off or injure a player. I'd rather see a player make the most of a foul when that players intention is just to kick everyone in sight rather than get away with it.
you!? calling me! a twat!?? never....
also i dont applaud it unless it's directly related to another players thugish behaviour. Motta was a thug in that game, like Van Bommel (who didn't get booked until the semis in the WC...) and if they want to play the game that way then why wouldn't a player make the most of it and draw attention to the nature of their play.
Ah, so Busquets was a cheating prick in order to save a team mate from breaking a leg?
He's actually a hero.
He didn't cheat, he made the most of a foul.
I don;t think anyone is saying Busquets is the "worst of the worst" (although he's up there) but applauding any footballer for a blatant act of gamesmanship is an extremely twattish thing to do.
Would you be applauding if that gif involved Ronaldo rolling around and peeking through his fingers?
Busquets was caught red handed, players do it all the time. It was a complete overraction based on that peakaboo.
And it depends on who was doing the fouling. If Madrid were playing or Portugal for that matter and one player was out to just stop them playing by any means possible i would hold nothing against Ronaldo for going to ground.
I think Ronaldos a cnut and he goes down too easy but he goes down when he could be more damaging if he stayed on his feet and it's his reaction to not getting given fouls that really annoys me about him.
If someone is out to kick him then he has every right to bring it to the refs attention by making the most of it otherwise players can get away with all sorts and i am of the opinion that i'd rather see a player playact than a player injure another intentionally.
One is gamesmanship, the other is thuggery.
...and Buquets, one of te dirtiest players in the game, was really getting creamed when he did his disgusting act, he had no right to react the way he did
P.S
You're a cock
It's not up to the receiving player to try and make the referee's mind up. Busquets has no right to try to bring things to the referee's attention by exaggerating, because he's not officiating the game and doesn't decide on the punishments.
I've seen Busquets commit fouls but i've never seen him injure a player or even tackle with malice.
twat or cock? which is it?
don't say both you might actually hurt my feelings
It is entirely up to a player recieving or giving if he wants to tackle unfairly, dive, handball , play act or play fair and square.
It is then up to the ref to decide which actions he will take.
two wrongs don't make a right but if a ref can't see what's going on then you can't exactly blame a player for saying something or showing him.
Refs certainly have a very difficult job and players dont make it easier.
That's not my point. The point is Busquets should not be trying to make the referee's mind up for him. How can a referee judge a foul solely by the characteristics of the foul, as he should be doing by the Laws of the Game, if players exaggerate?
Like i said it is not easy for the ref.
The whole Busquets thing was blown way out of preportion due to his reaction. Yes he reacted stupidly and his reaction did get the red card shown. But bear in mind that Motta was thugish up until that point and was already booked for a terrible tackle.
He wouldn't have seen red if Busquets hadn't have reacted the way he did but he would have got a second yellow resulting in a red anyway.
Now i did applaud it at the time because i could see what Motta was trying to do but the majority of the time i don't applaud it and i'd like to see diving, playacting and thug behaviour out of the game but it's not that easy.
If things are not easy for the referee, why should the players take it upon themselves to "help" the referee in this way? It's not their duty.
It's a bit like assault victims making their wounds a lot worse than they are.
If the referee isn't doing his job properly then it is up to the various refereeing boards and FIFA to figure something out, not for Busquets to "help" make the referee's mind up (especially because Busquets stands to benefit from it).
yes, because i applauded him, my point was i dont applaud every act of exaggeration.
no cock or twat comment? how about prick? or shit? you could call me a feckhead!
Na, if you can make a ref see what is going on then i don't see why you wouldn't. Is there any difference between talking to a ref and saying what's going on and adding a roll or two to a foul commited on you?
Rooney is the worst player i've seen for talking to referees, i dont see the world up in arms about it.
If you ask a ref if he'd rather he was verbally abused or a player over exaggerated a foul i imagine he'd prefere the latter. Just my opinion, i don't know what refs think about anything all i do know is that they have the hardest job in football.
Rooney is the worst you've seen? I suggest you've not watched many other players then! He's bad yes but by no means the worst!