not really. He has little time left in his career to add a title.
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not really. He has little time left in his career to add a title.
It's not like they sabotaged him on purpose.
I dont think so , he drives the car, he knows its not right, how pissed would you be if in your job, you knew something was wrong, knew how to solve it but was ignored.
I can’t see anywhere in that article where he says that.
He is publicly blaming his teammates, what exactly he is going to accomplish? Make himself look smart?
You made it sound like that.
I don't think they'll mind.
He's not saying anything they haven't heard behind closed doors. And he's been very complimentary of them in public in general.
They do need to pull the finger out their ass and fix the issues.
Not really. He’s 38, has little time to add another title to be the undisputed GOAT while arguably already is. He has the right to be arrogant and believe he is and was correct about the car. He’s not talking about sabotage or being harsh. Just stating facts that it’s a crap car and that they should have listened when he said it’s crap and going in a poor direction. Nothing to do with sabotage on purpose or the nonsense you’re talking.
So much money wasted on all those nerds when he knew how to fix it all this time, lul
No idea how you got that from that article. Its well know for years that Mercedes try to produce the best car for the rules for any given season. They never favour any drivers particular driving style for any of their drivers. Their drivers then adjust the car via setup to their liking. Unlike ferrari who normally design the car around their no1 driver: schmacher, alonso, vettel. Or RedBull around max.
Now i think Mercedes are missing a trick, their turbo hybrid advantage is gone. They need to maximise every last tenth out of the car. So build it around hamilton. Use him while you have him and when hes gone, then built it around russell. Do what ferrari have done for years and RedBull do now.
On a sidenote, i think this all alludes to issues internally at Mercedes. Hamilton and James Allison got on well. Maybe Mike Elliot and hamilton dont. Maybe there is a lack of hubris from mercedes technical design team.
Regardless not taking advice and suggestions from your 7 times wolrd champion, is reckless, naive and stupid.
He's one of the all time greats with 20 plus years of experience. He might just have an idea to help fix some issues, maybe listening to him might help. If you have level of success so you suggest an idea or 2 , gets ignored and car continued to be slow, wouldn't that annoy you? I know of some of you dislike him but the lengths you go to do it is weird.
Worth listening to the tone and context of the comment from Hamilton. Doesn't suggest he's annoyed, just acknowledges that the direction has to change. Of course, not that the usual suspects would be triggered by any comment that Hamilton makes...
BBC Chequered Flag Podcast - 24 mins in for the interview
BBC Chequered Flag Podcast - 24 mins in for the interview
Exactly , If any other driver had said it nothing would have been said.
Well they didn't. And it's still the 3rd best car last year, and will probably be something like that this year too. So they weren't that wrong, it's just that Red Bull made very good car no one comes even close.
Can you show me what exactly did he accomplish by criticising his teammates?
David Sanchez (Ferrari’s head of vehicle concept) is joining a british team. I wonder who?
https://the-race.com/formula-1/senior-ferrari-f1-technical-figure-has-resigned/
https://the-race.com/formula-1/senior-ferrari-f1-technical-figure-has-resigned/
Posts have nothing to do with Hamilton, it was aimed towards a claim of poster, that he knew how to solve a problem, spinning that as some hate posts towards Hamilton... talk about weird.
indeed they didn’t and both him and Russell have came out to say it’s not a good car. As has Toto. Unfortunately due to how big they are in the sport and their achievements recently, anything less than 2nd best is bad for them.
There is no accomplishment for criticising them or for praising them. Both in the grand scheme of things don’t mean much. If you have a good car you’ll say what a great team, if you have a bad car you’ll say we haven’t got it right and need to change. It isn’t about accomplishing but Lewis has always been someone who rightly or wrongly says what’s on his mind. Toto earlier in the week admitted as much that the car was crap too. It just feels like people want another stick to beat Hamilton with.
Well if you spend your seasons complaining about things then you'll definitely have people that are not big fan of it.
Are there any drivers at top teams that don’t complain when they’re not winning and have a bad car?
Most of them complain less than Hamilton. Only Max comes close from the current lot, probably just few come close in the past 25 years I have been watching.
And most of them don’t come close to the records of Hamilton.
So because he is winning he has right to complain? I wasn't aware that no one is allowed to criticise your interviews if you are couple of time world champion.
In what part of the interview does Lewis suggest he knows more than engineers and aerodynamicists?
He's a 7 time world champion of course he does. He publicly praised the efforts when they won titles and he has the right to tell them this current car isn't good enough.
I can't believe people are annoyed at him for this.
I expected it, all he had to do is say anything a certain few in here crucify him.
Any driver with the same experience would say the same , Alonso said it about his engine a few season ago.
We havent even gotten to race 2 yet and this season feels like it needs to end.
Ferrari new rear wing for this season, isnt working properly so they are running last years rear wing. Great.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/187118/new-rear-wing-ferrari-not-yet-working-properly.html
Also a climate of fear at ferrari, to the point that ideas for this years car havent been explored over winter. Sigh.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/187043/major-turmoil-at-ferrari-talks-for-leclerc-after-bahrain.html
Ferrari new rear wing for this season, isnt working properly so they are running last years rear wing. Great.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/187118/new-rear-wing-ferrari-not-yet-working-properly.html
Also a climate of fear at ferrari, to the point that ideas for this years car havent been explored over winter. Sigh.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/187043/major-turmoil-at-ferrari-talks-for-leclerc-after-bahrain.html
Lewis Hamilton could leave Merc for Ferrari if team not competitive.
Mercedes car and Ferrari cars both struggling, the only car to even get close is the Aston and to be honest I dont think they have enough to really challenge Red Bull.
Alonso is the right driver for that car, but will have to drive at 110% for the whole season to get even close and with Red Bull turning their engine down for the first race, dont see Aston doing it.
Hopefully upgrades to both Mer and Ferrari will address some of the problems and make the season worth watching.
It is an interesting option for both parties.
Toto and Mercedes would hate it and I suspect a fair few Ferrari fans.
As a Ferrari fan I would like it(despite few people thinking I hate him or something like that), it would be nice to have such a driver in their history.
However, I really don't think he will win another title with Ferrari sooner than with Mercedes, IMO. Mercedes is still easily more reliable car and team than Ferrari, they are step back when it comes to aerodynamics, but once they sort that out they will be ahead of everything on Ferrari again. Ferrari made good aerodynamic car(but still worse than Red Bull and even Aston), but their engine and car in general is still less reliable than Mercedes, and as a team their race decisions are still very questionable.
Hamilton in a ferrrai would be great to see (especially against leclerc) but i think a driver alone isnt enough to make ferrari into wolrd champions. Its too hard. Needs the right team prinicpal and cheif technical officer etc who have the backing of ferrari to have the autonomy without interference to go take the team in the right direction. Agree it would be easier to win title 8 with Mercedes than ferrari which would take longer imho.
I think max will be in a ferrari eventually (a few years), be interesting to see by then if he has the off the track ability to get ferrari pushing in the right direction and make them into world champions.
Do you think the drivers don’t put any input into the cars they are driving? Do you think redbull just make a car and then say to max, here you go, go and drive it?
Fair enough.
I just thought there’s people in this very thread who thought the design was flawed and would fail and think they know more than these engineers, I’m sure a driver would drive a car and feel it wasn’t finely balanced or couldn’t get out of it what they expected or whatever and would put their input into that, which then got ignored.
I think a massive meal had been made out of what Lewis has said because it’s Lewis. Nothing more.
Hamilton should've jumped ship a couple of years ago, there were strong rumours but he decided to stick with Merc. Could've been a McLaren/Merc move for him and he did state he'd like to drive for them one day.
Merc might have a decent car next year. I wonder if it could've been possible under the budget at the end of last season to build a loose Red Bull prototype, see the relative numbers and switch development.
Merc might have a decent car next year. I wonder if it could've been possible under the budget at the end of last season to build a loose Red Bull prototype, see the relative numbers and switch development.
Aston Martin body looks like a completely new car this year from the comparision pictures I've seen, and Red Bull made many changes watching from the front too, if they don't overspend this year then surely it will mean that other cars on the grid can completely change their design under budget for next year too and there is no need for panic?
The engineers spend every moment they can trying to maximise their interpretation of the rules. One team was radically different and the car is a pos. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist (literally), to know they fecked up.
This is broadly the crux of it. There’s no new interview that’s suddenly come out, it’s just about 30 seconds of dialogue post race from Sunday, broadly supported by his team boss.
This has then gone through the over analysed media stage, taken out of context to suit by the usual suspects in that field, as they’ve got nothing to talk about for 2 weeks to the next race.
I'm sure you know best. You should write a letter to Mercedes and tell them where they went wrong.
Never in human history has a different design ever proved better or a minority been in the right. Ever. Never happened. Not once.
My god, the car was a piece of shit when they rolled it off the truck. Every clown and his dog could see that. You seem to think you need to be a genius to see that a car that is 1 second a lap slower than the fastest car on the grid is not a piece of shit. You’re wrong and maybe a little butt hurt who knows. It’s quite simple, radical designs that are slow or not performing, are feck ups.
I don’t have to write a letter to Merc because they would have seen it was a pig during simulation.