There is an allocation this season of 3, so even if they do no penalty.
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Mercedes engineers looking at an all-nighter.
Hoping they have got enough spare parts as well.
Max with a good lap to get pole.
Russell will most likely be 4th tomorrow so it's not too bad for him.
Wow that was a great finish
with both mercedes crashing it’s clear red bull must have caused it.
For people saying that they're tired of seeing RB run away with it, obviously they have a great car. But you just have to look at the gap between Perez and the Ferraris to see that Verstappen is himself adding 3-4 tenths per lap of performance.
Dutch fans celebrating crashes like they won the world cup
I see both Lewis and Russell doing OK in the sprint.
Russell maybe 4th , Lewis 6th maybe 5th behind Russell.
Russell maybe 4th , Lewis 6th maybe 5th behind Russell.
Qualifying: Top 10
1) Max Verstappen, Red Bull
2) Charles Leclerc, Ferrari
3) Carlos Sainz, Ferrari
4) Sergio Perez, Red Bull
5) George Russell, Mercedes
6) Esteban Ocon, Alpine
7) Kevin Magnussen, Haas
8) Mick Schumacher, Haas
9) Fernando Alonso, Alpine
10) Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes
1) Max Verstappen, Red Bull
2) Charles Leclerc, Ferrari
3) Carlos Sainz, Ferrari
4) Sergio Perez, Red Bull
5) George Russell, Mercedes
6) Esteban Ocon, Alpine
7) Kevin Magnussen, Haas
8) Mick Schumacher, Haas
9) Fernando Alonso, Alpine
10) Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes
So it can’t be Perez underperforming then?
So impressed with Sainz, he has closed the qualy gap to Leclerc who usually saves his best for last run of Q3
This. F1 so tribal now.
Max gets that bit extra out of his car, same as Lewis does, when the car is right.
The RB is the car to beat, but it can be beat.
Max on Pole was expected, I see him winning the sprint and the main race, he is that good.
watching Lewis crash again on the Sky replay, does look like a gust of wind may have took him out.
Did Russell riding the kerb take him out?
Did Russell riding the kerb take him out?
I think they have made the car more suited to Max being more front heavy in the last few races, Perez said so himself. It's aiding Max's qualy runs for sure giving him a tenth or so over the Ferrari's who are incredible over one lap
Max is probably the quickest driver in F1, I wouldn’t argue against that opinion but he isn’t dragging a car into pole, come on, it’s a quick car and has been all season.
Perez is not a great qualifier, never has been, if a career was measured on quali Perez wouldn’t even still be in F1, he’s there because he’s very solid in races. I don’t really buy his excuse of development moving away from him, he’s just not a one lap guy. He’s a specialist at some tracks but not many, Max rightfully dominates him 9 times out of 10.
Perez is not a great qualifier, never has been, if a career was measured on quali Perez wouldn’t even still be in F1, he’s there because he’s very solid in races. I don’t really buy his excuse of development moving away from him, he’s just not a one lap guy. He’s a specialist at some tracks but not many, Max rightfully dominates him 9 times out of 10.
I dont think Lewis would have got Pole, but I think he was fast enough to get front row along side him.
Sky just threw this in during an interview with Toto.
Perez has to see the stewards at 7pm , he may lose his lap time
Perez has to see the stewards at 7pm , he may lose his lap time
It’s pretty clear he’s off the track, reckon he will start 10th.
Rather bizarre isn’t it? He just shouldn’t have been in Q3, it would have taken less than a minute to sort that and allow the 11th car in.
The Perez thing has to be one of the stupidest decisions by officials I've seen...erm, this week.
I agree it's just taking the rivalry too far.
I definitely wasn't saying that he's dragging even an average car onto pole, it's the best car on the grid. I also agree on Perez being a weak quali performer and that possibly flattering Verstappen's performance. But I don't think the Red Bull by itself is so far ahead of the Ferrari at this point that would be a walk in the park if you sat any driver in the Red Bull.
Red Bull where much stronger in Silverstone relative to Ferrari than they are here imo. Race pace for this weekend is anyone's guess
Did Perez set another time at all in Q2 which would have gotten him in to Q3?
Austrian GP Qualifying Result
I think Max was down a tenth in the first two sectors from his first lap in Q3 where he has generally been the quickest. He could have had a lot more comfortable pole in the end, needed a mega final sector to clinch it
True but Silverstone he just looked much more comfortable if say despite the fact he didn't get pole there
No, but based on the time he did set in Q2 he would have been 12th.
Should be a fantastic race tomorrow. The cars look fairly even and with the DRS I don't see 1 car leaping away.
Lets hope there is some good action.
I need something to cheer me up after that Mclaren performance
Lets hope there is some good action.
I need something to cheer me up after that Mclaren performance
Wow, all of Perez's q3 lap times deleted, so will start from 10th.
First time I've ever seen that happen. A bit unfair to the 11th placed driver from q2!
First time I've ever seen that happen. A bit unfair to the 11th placed driver from q2!
Should be a fantastic race tomorrow. The cars look fairly even and with the DRS I don't see 1 car leaping away.
Lets hope there is some good action.
I need something to cheer me up after that Mclaren performance
At least you're not an Aston Martin fan?
It's a fair decision but ridiculous that it even came to this - was obvious on the broadcast he'd gone off. Gasly is right to be aggrieved - not sure if he'd have gotten past Russell but he'd have at least started 9th given Hamilton didn't put in a real Q3 lap.
It's Red Bull though.
They fecked up and noted it after the session had begun. It's a big feck up considering the Knock on effect
Firstly it's unfair on Gasly as he lost out on places because of race control.
Secondly even though Checos times have rightfully been deleted he now wasted tyres in a session he didn't qualify for. Again a feck up by race control. Really he should get those tyres back because he never should have been told to go out on track.
Gasly the biggest loser in this still but all at the hands of race control.
I totally forgot about this! Leclerc did great in last third of the lap, but Max was even more impressive.
Watching it on the replay, both Mercedes crashes seemed like a driver mistake, or it was the risky setup? If it's the setup, I can't see how they'll last race/sprint with those kerbs.
Watching it on the replay, both Mercedes crashes seemed like a driver mistake, or it was the risky setup? If it's the setup, I can't see how they'll last race/sprint with those kerbs.
Sergio Perez has had all his times from the final round of today's qualifying session deleted as well as his fastest Q2 lap, dropping him from fourth to 13th place on the grid for tomorrow's sprint race in Spielberg, Austria.
Many drivers had their times deleted during the session for exceeding track limits. But Perez' final Q2 lap time was allowed to stand despite video footage showing him clearly straying wide at turn 8.
The lap ended up being good enough for sixth place at the end of Q2 meaning the Red Bull driver progressed to the final round in place of AlphaTauri's Pierre Gasly. Without it, he would have missed the cut in 13th.
The race stewards didn't have time to look into the incident further until after the session. When they did, it was decided that the lap time should be deleted. And because that meant he didn't make the cut, all his Q3 times were deleted too.
"It is disappointing to lose fourth place," Perez commented. the track limits are very tight here this season, but it is frustrating that the Team weren’t told my lap time had been deleted during Q2.
Team principal Christian Horner added: "We feel the penalty for Checo was very harsh and should have been dealt with before Q3 to enable us to improve subsequent performance."
"Perez left the track at Turn 8 on his last flying lap of Q2, just prior to the end of the session," said the official statement from the FIA stewards.
"As this was not identified until the moment before Q3 started, the lap was not deleted prior to the start of Q3 and Perez started Q3.
"The usual penalty is deleting the lap time concerned, and the stewards order the same penalty here.
"As a consequence the driver would not have proceeded into Q3 and therefore, in fairness to all the other competitors, the stewards order that all the lap times for Q3 for the driver also are deleted."
The deletions mean that Perez will now line up in 13th place on tomorrow's sprint race grid.
Many drivers had their times deleted during the session for exceeding track limits. But Perez' final Q2 lap time was allowed to stand despite video footage showing him clearly straying wide at turn 8.
The lap ended up being good enough for sixth place at the end of Q2 meaning the Red Bull driver progressed to the final round in place of AlphaTauri's Pierre Gasly. Without it, he would have missed the cut in 13th.
The race stewards didn't have time to look into the incident further until after the session. When they did, it was decided that the lap time should be deleted. And because that meant he didn't make the cut, all his Q3 times were deleted too.
"It is disappointing to lose fourth place," Perez commented. the track limits are very tight here this season, but it is frustrating that the Team weren’t told my lap time had been deleted during Q2.
Team principal Christian Horner added: "We feel the penalty for Checo was very harsh and should have been dealt with before Q3 to enable us to improve subsequent performance."
"Perez left the track at Turn 8 on his last flying lap of Q2, just prior to the end of the session," said the official statement from the FIA stewards.
"As this was not identified until the moment before Q3 started, the lap was not deleted prior to the start of Q3 and Perez started Q3.
"The usual penalty is deleting the lap time concerned, and the stewards order the same penalty here.
"As a consequence the driver would not have proceeded into Q3 and therefore, in fairness to all the other competitors, the stewards order that all the lap times for Q3 for the driver also are deleted."
The deletions mean that Perez will now line up in 13th place on tomorrow's sprint race grid.