I had a look through quali results and he's often 2-5 tenths off kmag. There could be a story with all these sessions but he hasn't stood out as fast or extra talented.
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I had a look through quali results and he's often 2-5 tenths off kmag. There could be a story with all these sessions but he hasn't stood out as fast or extra talented.
He's a bad qualifier but a better racer. He never got a pole in 2 seasons of F2 either.
I do think he deserved 1 more season but for whatever reason Haas don't want him to continue. I guess the early big crashes put him in a bad place.
He's scored twice during the season. For comparison, Magnussen has scored points nine times, when you include sprint races (six times without). Add the very expensive crashes on top of that. Quite simply he has severely underperformed his teammate.
That being said, he is not worse than a driver like Tsunoda, who arguably should also not have a seat next year.
Kmag is frankly a more experienced and more talented driver. Him coming back into f1 and beating Mick isn't all that surprising really.
It'll be interesting to see how well Hulkenburg can match up to Kmag. That is a risk in itself as he's been inactive so long.
Theres rumours mick is joining mercedes as a reserve driver. Helps to have the schmacher name....
https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/1...rez-team-order-snub-as-red-bull-defend-driver
I would have thought he was wise enough to know that he was not going to like many of the things that he was going to read after the incident in Brazil.
I would have thought he was wise enough to know that he was not going to like many of the things that he was going to read after the incident in Brazil.
Baby Verstappen Blarting again. Well that makes a change.
Yeah she should have.
Really? Max is the problem and not the toxic (social) media?
Don't disagree with you.
'I've been a dickhead and everyones calling me a dickhead I don't like it'
Very good.
Enough of this Max talk, this weekend belongs to Vettel, went from being a thundercnut at Red Bull to one of the most respected guys in F1.
If you dont like social media, especially if your famous, then why go on there? Hes been a prat he knows it, everyone knows it.
He created the problem.
Red Bull basically doubling down on backing Max, they are a classless act. It could have been resolved with a simple apology from Max and now it’s exploding into a genuine character issue. It’s truly Max’s team and nobody else’s.
Seriously? It's not about liking social media or not at all. It's about not tolerating the abusive and toxic messages people spout on there, especially against his family. That's what he's speaking out against. That and all the shite stirring lies and speculation from the media. He couldn't care less whether people like him or not.
Verstappen can't be taken seriously on this topic when his Mum is out there telling the world on Instagram his team mate has cheated on his wife in Monaco.
Yeah, Max failed to follow team orders and somehow the narrative switches to how his teammate cheated twice at Monaco.
https://f1bytes.com/2022-h2h-mag-v-msc/
Helps to be a decent driver who statistically is a better race driver than k-mag this year. Haas being a shitbox for most rounds and some horrendous strategy decisions fecked mick this year.
Needs not forget that despite pole for Kevin, Schumacher finished better than him at Brazil.
My prediction that he would do better than K-May after round 8 was correct. It’s a pitty Haas couldn’t deliver on their end of the deal and went backwards as the season progressed
Surprised Schumacher didn't try and line up a drive at AT can only assume RB didn't want him or he thought he could stay at Haas.
Being the merc test driver is probably a step up, teams will get to see how he handles a car that is built for drivers, he’s only 23 some of the greats didn’t get a start till they were older
Mick has done absolutely nothing to indicate hes a top talent. Hes in f1 because of who his dad is.
There is doubt though. Even if he was fast (he’s not, KMag is faster, and he got dropped from F1), he’s crashy. And not Verstappen crashy, where he’s going to get you amazing results far beyond the machine capabilities sometimes, which mitigated the cost crashy. Expensive crashy. For a poor team.
He absolutely deserves to be dropped. Nice guy & talented driver. But he probably wouldn’t have even got into an f1 seat it wasn’t for his name.
Didnt Magnussen get taken out by Ricciardo?
Yep
if someone told me 10 years ago that these two would be up there with my favourite drivers I would have laughed in their face. I guess opinions change 
Lawson did pretty well in the Red Bull
Because K-Mag was taken out, in a crash that was 100% Ricciardo's fault. And Mick didn't even finish in the points. You're trying to make it out like Mick had a better weekend, even though his teammate got a sensational pole and scored a point in the sprint. Your bias is showing.
According to Szafnauer, Rossi apparently told Alonso and Ocon that if anybody else (in the team) had done what they did in Brazil, they would have been fired:
Formule 1 | Alpine F1 : Rossi a menacé Ocon et Alonso de licenciement (nextgen-auto.com)
Formule 1 | Alpine F1 : Rossi a menacé Ocon et Alonso de licenciement (nextgen-auto.com)
So basically he’s talking shit about nothing.
Danny Ric to become RB 3rd driver ie. test driver alledgly
Helmut Marko said this. That confirms it right?
BBC F1 quoted Marko, but damon hill has said it as well. Hill also thinks that perez will get dropped to reserve driver and danny ric will take his seat. I dont believe that just yet. If riccardo is quicker than perez in winter testing, then who knows.
Mick was easily on points with Vettel etc, just Haas messed up not pitting him under SC.
I have to agree with you here, I like Ricciardo, but his season has been dreadful for him.
Rewatching the highlights from last year and Perez fighting with Hamilton allowing Max to take 6 seconds off Lewis' lead...
Commentator "Perez playing the ultimate team game"
Commentator "Perez playing the ultimate team game"
Abu Dhabi FP1 FP2 tiesheets
Decent showing by both Mercedes in FP1 and 2
Max missed FP1, FP2 straight to P1.
Abu Dhabi GP Practice One Timesheet
Abu Dhabi GP Practice Two Timesheet
Max missed FP1, FP2 straight to P1.
Abu Dhabi GP Practice One Timesheet
| Driver | Team | Time |
|---|---|---|
| 1) Lewis Hamilton | Mercedes | 1:26.633 |
| 2) George Russell | Mercedes | +0.220 |
| 3) Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | +0.255 |
| 4) Sergio Perez | Red Bull | +0.334 |
| 5) Liam Lawson | Red Bull | +0.568 |
| 6) Sebastian Vettel | Aston Martin | +0.635 |
| 7) Robert Shwartzman | Ferrari | +0.796 |
| 8) Daniel Ricciardo | McLaren | +0.986 |
| 9) Valtteri Bottas | Alfa Romeo | +1.022 |
| 10) Alexander Albon | Williams | +1.207 |
| 11) Pierre Gasly | AlphaTauri | +1.212 |
| 12) Estaban Ocon | Alpine | +1.258 |
| 13) Yuki Tsunoda | AlphaTauri | +1.358 |
| 14) Robert Kubica | Alfa Romeo | +1.431 |
| 15) Logan Sargeant | Williams | +1.465 |
| 16) Kevin Magnussen | Haas | +1.509 |
| 17) Pietro Fittipaldi | Haas | +1.571 |
| 18) Patricio O'Ward | McLaren | +1.717 |
| 19) Jaack Doohan | Alpine | +1.851 |
| 20) Felipe Drugovich | Aston Martin | +2.039 |
Abu Dhabi GP Practice Two Timesheet
| Driver | Team | Time |
|---|---|---|
| 1) Max Verstappen | Red Bull | 1:25.146 |
| 2) George Russell | Mercedes | +0.341 |
| 3) Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | +0.453 |
| 4) Lewis Hamilton | Mercedes | +0.615 |
| 5) Sergio Perez | Red Bull | +0.706 |
| 6) Carlos Sainz | Ferrari | +0.786 |
| 7) Estaban Ocon | Alpine | +0.892 |
| 8) Fernando Alonso | Alpine | +0.897 |
| 9) Daniel Ricciardo | McLaren | +0.978 |
| 10) Valtteri Bottas | Alfa Romeo | +1.154 |
| 11) Lando Norris | McLaren | +1.231 |
| 12) Sebastian Vettel | Aston Martin | +1.249 |
| 13) Zhou Guanyu | Alfa Romeo | +1.333 |
| 14) Lance Stroll | Aston Martin | +1.401 |
| 15) Yuki Tsunoda | AlphaTauri | +1.534 |
| 16) Alexander Albon | Williams | +1.604 |
| 17) Mick Schumacher | Haas | +1.693 |
| 18) Kevin Magnussen | Haas | +1.769 |
| 19) Pierre Gasly | AlphaTauri | +1.890 |
| 20) Nicolas Latifi | Williams | +2.116 |
Perez I think is better than Ricciardo as of now
RIC beat Vettel at the time who was supposedly unhappy with the RB in the same way as RIC is currently with the McLaren. RIC was also challenging Max. Going to give him benefit of doubt, he was much faster than Perez and I think he still is if he can get back into a competitive car to get his mojo back. RB need a stronger second driver if it's close with Merc & Ferrari as they both have strong lineups.
Unfortunately for Perez he doesn't like the car setup in the way Max likes it.
Unfortunately for Perez he doesn't like the car setup in the way Max likes it.