And what exactly happens when the Ferrari and RB turns into shit boxes because of the meddling and the mercs runaway with the titles again.
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They won’t turn into shit boxes with the changes that have been proposed. Tombazis isn’t exactly new to design in Formula 1 and knows exactly what he’s doing in terms of regulations.
They should do whatever they can to bring the whole pack together and not just focus on the top teams. There will be more things uncovered this year for sure.
The only caveat is that changing things too soon sometimes means it isn't well thought out or a reaction to another team complaining plus it basically doesn't reward innovation and Ferrari / Red Bull who made good cars plus fixed problems.
A couple of the smaller teams are copying the big teams - I like the fact that the 3 biggest teams have completely different side pod concepts so I hope changing rules doesn't mean we end up with all the same concepts.
The only caveat is that changing things too soon sometimes means it isn't well thought out or a reaction to another team complaining plus it basically doesn't reward innovation and Ferrari / Red Bull who made good cars plus fixed problems.
A couple of the smaller teams are copying the big teams - I like the fact that the 3 biggest teams have completely different side pod concepts so I hope changing rules doesn't mean we end up with all the same concepts.
Verstappen hasn't done that once this year. Gaps between teams is fine. It's only shit when there is only 1 team.
Only Australia with Leclerc was the only race anyone drove away with it.
FIA should not be purposely trying to get this team or that team slower or quicker.
Regs should be set for each season etc and then may the best team win. Sure it's shit when one team is way better than the rest but right now we are nowhere near that or the Merc dominance for example. And while that was shit to watch it was still and advantages they earned!
If the sport operated in that they could have very easily slowed Merc down way more than they ever did. And I dislike Merc but even I never wanted that. Especially mid season.
We don't want to move towards a spec series.
I don’t understand why people have jumped to an assumption that this is purely to bring the pack together?
It seems to me that the rules didn’t intend for the flexible flooring Ferrari and Red Bull put together, and so they are seeking to clarify that. It just so happens that if that is what is making them faster, then they lose that pace. The nature of these things means the two things are often aligned (teams would bend the rules as much as possible only if it means a performance advantage), but should just assume that they are pursuing this purely to close the pack. It could just be to clarify the rules.
Principally is it that different to, for example, addressing the flexible rear wings last year? That was also mid season.
It seems to me that the rules didn’t intend for the flexible flooring Ferrari and Red Bull put together, and so they are seeking to clarify that. It just so happens that if that is what is making them faster, then they lose that pace. The nature of these things means the two things are often aligned (teams would bend the rules as much as possible only if it means a performance advantage), but should just assume that they are pursuing this purely to close the pack. It could just be to clarify the rules.
Principally is it that different to, for example, addressing the flexible rear wings last year? That was also mid season.
They should leave it be until next season. Not a fan of changing rules mid season but if the rules are being broken have at it. Doubt it will ever be so black and white.
As an aside, I've been surprised how much front wings flex this year.
As an aside, I've been surprised how much front wings flex this year.
This is how I see it.
They’re not changing rules, they’re making sure red bull and Ferrari are not bending the rules as much as to gain an unfair advantage over the rest by adding clarity to them, which it seems teams were supposedly clear on before the season started anyway.
Yeah, a newbie was pointing out that RD and Ferrari are clearly going against the spirit of the rules. Of course, that means nothing in F1, as looking for the edges of rules to find a trick no-one else has is part of the sport. But when you do that, you also know that you're risking that the FIA won't like the loophole you're exploiting and will close it. And that's where we are now.
So all good from my perspective. And I think RD and Ferrari will regret nothing given the advantage they've had so far. (As long as it's not utterly impossible for them now to modify their car and stay competitive at the top.)
Guys, dont forget qualifiying is TODAY at 4pm. Sprint race tomorrow and GP on sunday.
Bloody sprint races.
Bloody sprint races.
When they are gonna scrapped it btw? Pointless event.
Seems like all is good for RB, Horner said their floor is legal and Max now says this. No need to worry, bring on the TD 
Qualifying today, if you want you extra point in the Fantasy League, get your drivers picked before it starts.
Seems like all is good for RB, Horner said their floor is legal and Max now says this. No need to worry, bring on the TD
Max says or should that be what Max read from the bit of paper Horner has passed to him.
I see it has FIA closing up loopholes and if it does not affect RD or Ferrari, fine then let them get on with it.
Should they leave the meddling with rules and regs until next season, yeah maybe, but its FIA they dont do normal.
Falling for the Red Bull spin, it’s got nothing to do with the outside edge of the floor flexing which is what Mercedes have.
I'm not falling for anything, I just forgot this thread is a no-sarcasm zone
I find it amusing how Red Bull says they are not worried about anything, yet Mercedes lives in their heads rent free. Mercs must be on the right path considering how the shit-stirring between them and RB is intensifying.Red Bull Ring , Red Bull home race, will there be anything other than a Red Bull win.
Max is maybe the fastest on the grid this season, he is the best driver so far this season, I am not a fan but I cant take anything away from him, I have been impressed.
Max is maybe the fastest on the grid this season, he is the best driver so far this season, I am not a fan but I cant take anything away from him, I have been impressed.
Lando says his car is smoking, maybe on fire.
straight in to qualifying after just one FP session and there is a Red Flag, not good for any team.
Bottas will be starting from the back of the grid for the race on Sunday, because of a whole load of new parts.
I dont know why everyone hates on the Sprint Races. We get competetive racing from a Friday and FP1 is intense
OK you do have a point, but I just think its unnecessary, eats into the budgets.
Personally only been brought in for the DTS fans, would not shock me if Netflx put the thought in FIA head, qualifying at 4pm (UK time) is just mental.
Looks like a 3.1% budget increases have been agreed.
FIA have said that the new TD about flexing floor wont come in till Belgium not France.
TD from Belgium onwards?
Sky saying it worth about £4m
bit of meat to the bones.
Breaking: Cost cap to rise by 3% due to inflation
Following a vote at an F1 Commission meeting in Austria, it has been agreed that the cost cap will rise in 2022.
Many teams - namely Red Bull, Ferrari and Mercedes - had been calling for an increase on the spending limit due to rising global inflation.
A limited increase of 3.1% on the $140m cost cap has been agreed. The FIA say this will "preserve the long-term integrity of the Financial Regulations".
Breaking: Cost cap to rise by 3% due to inflation
Following a vote at an F1 Commission meeting in Austria, it has been agreed that the cost cap will rise in 2022.
Many teams - namely Red Bull, Ferrari and Mercedes - had been calling for an increase on the spending limit due to rising global inflation.
A limited increase of 3.1% on the $140m cost cap has been agreed. The FIA say this will "preserve the long-term integrity of the Financial Regulations".
Red Flag for a bit of debris on the exit of turn 1 I think.
Looks like some rubber from the track.
FP1 2 red flags, not helping the teams.
Looks like some rubber from the track.
FP1 2 red flags, not helping the teams.
Safety first and all that, but FFS , no need for a red flag .
RedBull well quicker in the first 2 sectors, Leclerc seems to pull some gap back in the faster final sector
Red Bull used to smash this track when they had a downforce car, they will obliterate it now with this slippery straight line machine.
are they still being allowed to cheat this week with the flexing floor as well?... should be rapid if they are
With the qualifying for the sprint race this afternoon there's no need to get rubber caught up in sidepods or body work giving teams unnecessary repair work. Plus it was also on the racing line.
I mean inflation has been around 10% where I'm at but at least 3% is something
The Haas' Grand Prix weekend boom-bust cycle has now started - K-Mag and Mick are 6th and 9th in FP1! It will end in disappointment, but they always get your hopes up.
Ferrari and RB complaining they need more time to be compliant. Which sugggests this TD could cause issues for both teams.
How many races away is Belgium?
I think it'll be postponed till 2023. Brundle doesn't think the changes are that significant anyway to push them through urgently
3 races. Last one before summer break
I have not heard that, can only find this.
The new FIA rules to address Formula 1 cars bouncing have been delayed until the Belgian Grand Prix following an F1 Commission meeting on Friday.
The technical directive, aimed at cutting out the bouncing over fears for driver safety, had been set to be introduced at the French Grand Prix in two weekends’ time.
But that has been put back until after the summer break at Spa at the end of August.
Its the first one after the summer break 28th Aug.