F1 2021 Season

The usuals getting their daily meltdowns in. Thread is definitely like groundhog day.
I don't know how they build up the strength to keep coming back recycling the same arguments.
Credit to them though. I was lucky enough to get all my anger out on the same evening.
 
I am also slightly disappointed in the withdrawal of the appeal because I genuinely wanted a legal and detailed explanation of the events, regardless of who is the champion or not.

If the FIA were forced to admit that the 'god-clause' does indeed give the race director full powers to shape the flow and story of a race, and that teams and fans should have been aware of this and expect this, then ok, I know where I stand on the matter.

Basically the equivalent of match fixing. Think F1 has lost its credibility massively. The sport interpersonally for me is repetitive and a bit of a chore to observe, I only watched highlights this season to see the finale of the championship. The only influence to a race's conclusion should be the input of the drivers. Nothing more nothing less. F1 is right at the low end of the pile due to the interference of the FIA.

Think the circumstances of the result is not only a disappointment to fans but both respective drivers. The result is not the issue, either Max or Lewis would be victorious, it's the details which has ruined a great opportunity for the sport to experience growth which such an entertaining campaign. The hierarchy have showed to be worse than FIFA who at the very least didn't make an open show of their corruption.
 
The FIA's new stewardship led by freshly elected president Mohammed Ben Sulayem will meet to discuss the case around Lewis Hamilton's absence from Thursday's prize-giving gala in Paris, with zero tolerance for the Mercedes driver if he is found to have breached F1's sporting rules.

Hamilton, along with Mercedes team boss Toto Wolff, was conspicuously absent from the governing body's traditional end-of-season award ceremonial, a snub that reflected the pair's anger of the events that unfolded at the end of F1's title decider in Abu Dhabi and which were orchestrated by FIA race director Michael Masi.

Hamilton's deliberate absence is a breach of the FIA's sporting regulations and could imply a sanction for the Mercedes driver if the FIA chooses to pursue the case.

Article 6.6 of F1's sporting rules clearly lays out the law: "The drivers finishing first, second and third in the Championship must be present at the annual FIA Prize Giving ceremony."

"At the end of the day, rules are rules," commented new FIA president Mohammed Ben Sulayem in his first meeting with the media.

Pity Masi did not do that.
I agree with Lewis, I would not have gone, so it will cost him a few quid, worth it I say.
https://f1i.com/news/429138-fias-su...Ux6YUmhhMeKYaZVp4pD5nupxSVt3Z6r8_MxQWwSZYqcCs
FIA are a utter farce if they try to penalise lewis they need to penalise masi first.
 
What was your reason to immediately question if he was a former racer and if he had a connection with the sport, by the way?
Because I have never heard of him - I expected the new president to be some well known name from the near past. He might be such of course, but I am not that big of a motorsport fan to know him.
 
Been in role hours and already sounds a dick.

"If there is any breach, there is no forgiveness in this," Ben Sulayem said.

Asked to clarify whether he was saying Hamilton would be penalised for not attending the gala, he said: "Forgiveness is always there. But rules are rules.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59705074

(and a PS.. Brazilian Fabiana Ecclestone - wife of former F1 boss Bernie Ecclestone - is new vice-president representing South America.)
 
Toto needs to stop talking and get on with life. It’s starting to get embarrassing for he and Lewis.

You lost and it wasn’t redbulls fault. Accept it and move on. Pissing and meaning about hard done by you are given the last 7 years of dominance is not a good look.
 
It would be stupid of the FIA to fine Hamilton for not turning up. They are better off letting it go, and letting the fans start to move on and focus on the next season. Fining him would just drag it all right back into the spot light, and make that all the focus of the lead in (even more than it will be already)
 
It would be stupid of the FIA to fine Hamilton for not turning up. They are better off letting it go, and letting the fans start to move on and focus on the next season. Fining him would just drag it all right back into the spot light, and make that all the focus of the lead in (even more than it will be already)

But.. but rules are rules...
 
Toto needs to stop talking and get on with life. It’s starting to get embarrassing for he and Lewis.

You lost and it wasn’t redbulls fault. Accept it and move on. Pissing and meaning about hard done by you are given the last 7 years of dominance is not a good look.

Easy for someone on the internet to say stuff like that . This is what they live for and have spent the last year fighting for. Countless number of days & energy went into that title fight and to have it end like that is obviously not as simple as you think . What they did for 7 years is irrelevant to the conversation
 
Easy for someone on the internet to say stuff like that . This is what they live for and have spent the last year fighting for. Countless number of days & energy went into that title fight and to have it end like that is obviously not as simple as you think . What they did for 7 years is irrelevant to the conversation
Sorry if you misunderstood what I said…

He needs to get the feck over it and move on. He lost. Get over it
 
In my limited experience many of Max's (online) fans come across as the F1 equivalent of United's social media fanbase; uncompromising in their views while some are border-line abusive of anyone who opposes them. On social media I frequently see him labelled as "GOAT" FFS.

You only have to see the official 'Driver of the Day' results each race for evidence of their unquestioning support.

Most Max fans are Dutch and have only got in to F1 recently and haven’t a clue what they’re talking about, ignorance.
The Dutch F1 fans are blinded by their chauvinism. There’s no point arguing with ignorance, just ignore them
 
Toto needs to stop talking and get on with life. It’s starting to get embarrassing for he and Lewis.

You lost and it wasn’t redbulls fault. Accept it and move on. Pissing and meaning about hard done by you are given the last 7 years of dominance is not a good look.

If the boot was on the other foot and Max was at the wrong end of the decision then we would never hear the end of it…
 
Sorry if you misunderstood what I said…

He needs to get the feck over it and move on. He lost. Get over it

We are still talking in this day about Maradona's 'Hand of God' from how many years ago now?

Some things don't get forgotten so easily.
 
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Been in role hours and already sounds a dick.

"If there is any breach, there is no forgiveness in this," Ben Sulayem said.

Asked to clarify whether he was saying Hamilton would be penalised for not attending the gala, he said: "Forgiveness is always there. But rules are rules.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59705074

(and a PS.. Brazilian Fabiana Ecclestone - wife of former F1 boss Bernie Ecclestone - is new vice-president representing South America.)
The corruption continues...
 
Most Max fans are Dutch and have only got in to F1 recently and haven’t a clue what they’re talking about, ignorance.
The Dutch F1 fans are blinded by their chauvinism. There’s no point arguing with ignorance, just ignore them
This certainly seems to be the case for some Max fans. Not all, but a significant number.
 
Toto needs to stop talking and get on with life. It’s starting to get embarrassing for he and Lewis.

You lost and it wasn’t redbulls fault. Accept it and move on. Pissing and meaning about hard done by you are given the last 7 years of dominance is not a good look.
Youve been bitching and moaning about Hamilton since you joined the Caf. Take your own advice.
 
Most Max fans are Dutch and have only got in to F1 recently and haven’t a clue what they’re talking about, ignorance.
The Dutch F1 fans are blinded by their chauvinism. There’s no point arguing with ignorance, just ignore them
Unlike the unchauvinistic British fans I presume ?
 
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Most Max fans are Dutch and have only got in to F1 recently and haven’t a clue what they’re talking about, ignorance.
The Dutch F1 fans are blinded by their chauvinism. There’s no point arguing with ignorance, just ignore them
If anything UK fans have been blinded for few decades!
 
Most Max fans are Dutch and have only got in to F1 recently and haven’t a clue what they’re talking about, ignorance.
The Dutch F1 fans are blinded by their chauvinism. There’s no point arguing with ignorance, just ignore them
At least them I can sort of understand. It's their first WDC winner, I'm sure I'd be proud and happy too.

And the one thing I have to keep reminding myself: It was Masi and FIA who fecked over Hamilton and decided the wdc. Not Max. He took the chances presented to him, something any racer worth their salt would do. I had disliked some of his antics before but it really isn't his fault.


It's the redbull fanboys which I completely detest.
 
Most Max fans are Dutch and have only got in to F1 recently and haven’t a clue what they’re talking about, ignorance.
The Dutch F1 fans are blinded by their chauvinism. There’s no point arguing with ignorance, just ignore them
Rustig, Engelsman, wees aardig :)
 
Verstappen only has Dutch fans, suuuuure. Outside the UK most people were rooting for Max.
 
Most Max fans are Dutch and have only got in to F1 recently and haven’t a clue what they’re talking about, ignorance.
The Dutch F1 fans are blinded by their chauvinism. There’s no point arguing with ignorance, just ignore them

And there's a great deal of english fans that are new to f1 as well because of Lewis and drive to survive. A significant amount who know 3/5's of feck all about motor racing except for what biased english commentators feed to them through sky.

How many times do you hear Brundle almost catch himself because he's not following the sky script? It is starting to get ridiculous and it may explain why he's attending less and less races.

James Allen was horrendous at times, but he'd be perfect for sky commentating.
 
And there's a great deal of english fans that are new to f1 as well because of Lewis and drive to survive. A significant amount who know 3/5's of feck all about motor racing except for what biased english commentators feed to them through sky.

How many times do you hear Brundle almost catch himself because he's not following the sky script? It is starting to get ridiculous and it may explain why he's attending less and less races.

James Allen was horrendous at times, but he'd be perfect for sky commentating.

:lol:
 
Most Max fans are Dutch and have only got in to F1 recently and haven’t a clue what they’re talking about, ignorance.
The Dutch F1 fans are blinded by their chauvinism. There’s no point arguing with ignorance, just ignore them
Stop crying :lol: Lewis had the lead and 3.6 miles to win ….and he lost.

Fair play to Lewis, he took the loss well and we go again next season.
 
Justice! I take it alonso and Lewis’s relationship is still quite frosty



Don't think it's anything to do with frostiness, all the drivers know Max should have been about 60 points ahead going into Brazil, with all bad luck equalised.
 
Not sure what’s there to learn from what the other drivers or teams think about Hamilton or Mercedes. Sporting history is full of athletes/teams who win a lot being the most hated ones & everyone wishing for their downfall. United , Patriots, Lakers, Warriors etc all had the rest of their competitors secretly wishing for them to fail
 
Not sure what’s there to learn from what the other drivers or teams think about Hamilton or Mercedes. Sporting history is full of athletes/teams who win a lot being the most hated ones & everyone wishing for their downfall. United , Patriots, Lakers, Warriors etc all had the rest of their competitors secretly wishing for them to fail
One of those is not like the others but I agree with your general point. Hated, adored but never ignored.