Cause they didn't win enough to be truly hated. They really only got hate when they had Durant and felt too OP and even then most of the hate went to KD .
F1 2021 Season
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Stop cryingLewis had the lead and 3.6 miles to win ….and he lost.
Fair play to Lewis, he took the loss well and we go again next season.
I’m not crying, I think Max is great and brilliant for F1. Nice to see a new F1 champ after all these years. But I want to see proper F1 racing and not some contorted manipulated scene just to please & entertain. It takes off all the gloss & the achievements. If the rules had been followed in the last race no way would Max been champ, just as Max suffered from some dodgy decisions himself (as well as benefiting from some dodgy ones).
I’m not at all criticizing Red Bull or Max. Max is a deserved champion and the decision making has nothing to do with him. More than happy with Max as the Champ, up there with the quickest drivers I’ve ever seen in F1.
Rustig, Engelsman, wees aardig
That’s ironic after reading what has been said about Hamilton & Mercedes in NL!
Het blijft toch maar een spelletje en ze zijn allemaal klootzakken in F1, dus ook bij RedBull en Max. Maak je geen Illusies! Als Max straks ze derde of vierde titel te pakken heeft gaat men in NL ook dingen in perspectief zien omdat het dan gewoontjes gaat worden.
If the race had been red flagged as it should have they would have lined up next to each other on fresh tyres with 3 laps to fight it out. Every chance he wins on soft tyres and low fuel.
If the lapped cars had all been allowed to overtake faster then it'd be the same result.
Of course we'll never know. Hamilton was faster off the line on mediums vs Max on softs. We can only speculate what would have happened with both on fresh softs. In my opinion, even in this scenario, Max only wins if Hamilton forgets to turn off the magic button.
Why is everyone bringing up the red flag. You didn't need a red flag to clear the track. Let's not start using "we're nearing the end of the race" excuse to issue red flags.
Wrong amd wrong.
Also second part is totally true on this forum if u switch Max with Hamilton and Dutch with British.
Also just come back to ask.
Did, as people suggested here, Merc went through with the appeal and won and Hamilton is crowned champion, Masi was shammed Game of thrones stile and Max is sent back to driving school for driving dangerously....
or did Merc backed down because they know they have no basis for actual appeal and Max is a champion while being voted driver of the season by team bosess and Masi is still in his seat?
Did, as people suggested here, Merc went through with the appeal and won and Hamilton is crowned champion, Masi was shammed Game of thrones stile and Max is sent back to driving school for driving dangerously....
or did Merc backed down because they know they have no basis for actual appeal and Max is a champion while being voted driver of the season by team bosess and Masi is still in his seat?
The hypocrisy is crazy in here. Worst thing is those Lewis fans in here think they speak for the entire world.A red flag wasn’t an option in the circumstances of this incident. Given the time it took to clear the track, the only options were finishing under the safety car or having a last lap race without the lapped cars between Max and Lewis being conveniently cleared out of Max’s way. You can be happy Max won (or Lewis didn’t if that’s your angle) but just accept that outcome only occurred because of a clear break of the rules by Masi.
Wasting Ur (M)time
One thing that's become clear is how maturely everybody from the two teams has handled themselves in the aftermath. Lewis, Max, both sets of parents, Toto Wolff.
Meh. They all knew it was in the interest of the sport to handle it maturely. Damage management.
There was one name missing from that list.
Interesting take on Missed Apex's review of the season regarding the appeal and the FIA. The latest statement from the FIA included the line:
This is my big issue with Mercedes dropping the appeal: the tone of Masi's radio comms at the end of the race ("its called a motor race Toto") coupled with the FIA stating its the argument that tarnished the championship and not their own actions. They're going to sweep this under the rug and taking them to court was the only realistic way to hold them to account.
Fantasy League 2021 Final Standings
The Fantasy League has finally been updated.
An the winner for 2021 is Toyoda Well done
Also finished 17th overall, again Well Done
Pretty poor year for me , just 8th
I will be running it again next season, hopefully more will enter.
An the winner for 2021 is Toyoda Well done
Also finished 17th overall, again Well Done
Pretty poor year for me , just 8th
I will be running it again next season, hopefully more will enter.
| 1st | venkman | 2223.5 | X | |
| 2nd | chaddyp | 2194.0 | X | |
| 3rd | senorgregster | 2122.5 | X | |
| 4th | impulse | 2091.5 | X | |
| 5th | manoucha | 2087.0 | X | |
| 6th | mtf | 2085.5 | X | |
| 7th | emm | EMM | 2002.5 | X |
| 8th | pauldyson1uk | 1937.5 | X | |
| 9th | vangagal | 1927.5 | X | |
| 10th | coleworld | 1921.5 | X | |
| 11th | christy87 | 1895.5 | X | |
| 12th | leg-end7 | 1866.5 | X | |
| 13th | tiber | 1841.5 | X | |
| 14th | jtw95 | 1829.5 | X | |
| 15th | dargonk | 1763.5 | X | |
| 16th | f-red | 1659.0 | X | |
| 17th | 20solskjaer | 1582.0 | X | |
| 18th | dpansheth | Rock | 1485.5 | X |
Spa-Francorchamps' planned €80 million facelift is now in full swing, with new pictures released by the Belgian circuit showing the extent of the facility's transformation.
Spa's plan to apply for an FIM Grade C licence to welcome motorcycle racing back to its track has compelled the venue to undertake a series of extensive modifications to the run-off areas of several corners where gravel traps will be installed.
But the renovation project also includes include a significant upgrade of the track's infrastructure, with new spectator facilities being gradually added in the future.
The remodeled series of grandstands and VIP areas will increase the track's seating capacity by 13,000 seats, or double the venue's current permanent seating capacity.
https://f1i.com/news/429503-spa-fra...NThVuD1dcN2pMHgA1PIaEIiYRhK4msyAAfuEwjwYXn_wE
Spa's plan to apply for an FIM Grade C licence to welcome motorcycle racing back to its track has compelled the venue to undertake a series of extensive modifications to the run-off areas of several corners where gravel traps will be installed.
But the renovation project also includes include a significant upgrade of the track's infrastructure, with new spectator facilities being gradually added in the future.
The remodeled series of grandstands and VIP areas will increase the track's seating capacity by 13,000 seats, or double the venue's current permanent seating capacity.
https://f1i.com/news/429503-spa-fra...NThVuD1dcN2pMHgA1PIaEIiYRhK4msyAAfuEwjwYXn_wE
Lets hope they will actually get to race on it next season.
Even if we dont, masi will give verstappen the points anyway.....
Good stuff. A bit infuriating that drainage isn't top of the list after this years shit show though.
90% of this thread probably signed it
Sir Jackie Stewart has rejected the idea that F1's controversial finale in Abu Dhabi was fabricated to thrill the fans, insisting the event's outcome was "clean" and wasn't a Hollywood scripted moment.
FIA race director Michael Masi's decision to bypass F1's usual safety car and restart procedure to provide fans with one final lap of racing led to a dramatic last gasp showdown between Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen, with the Dutchman taking advantage of his fresher tyres to overhaul the Mercedes driver and conquer his maiden world title.
https://f1i.com/news/429715-stewart...Rq6pxVAVTZ0Md837jVC5W0xtUINhAYaqs_3BOax3aV7CI
FIA race director Michael Masi's decision to bypass F1's usual safety car and restart procedure to provide fans with one final lap of racing led to a dramatic last gasp showdown between Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen, with the Dutchman taking advantage of his fresher tyres to overhaul the Mercedes driver and conquer his maiden world title.
https://f1i.com/news/429715-stewart...Rq6pxVAVTZ0Md837jVC5W0xtUINhAYaqs_3BOax3aV7CI
The next petition will be to strip Jackie of his knighthood for that blasphemy.
Those quotes are full on gaslighting, even trying to tell fans how they actually felt about it.
He's always come across as a bit of a prat, safety work aside. He got all high and mighty with Senna and Schumacher too back in the day.
Interesting theory why Mercedes didn't pitted Lewis. Basically saying Mercedes was protecting constructor championship and didn't pitted him because of that. Which in hindsight costed him the championship and that Lewis could be angry at Mercedes for that.
Strange and obscure narrative considering the whole championship was effectively stolen from Mercedes by Masi in the final laps. But whatever floats your boat.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...hamilton-fia-president-f1-title-b1986286.html
"Personally, I’m convinced that everything will work out,” Ben Sulayem added. “You can’t think about the past. There are many things to think about. We are the ones who embody the future"
This quote typifies the fact that the FIA don't want learn from past mistakes, just move on to another profitable year with no sporting integrity.
"Personally, I’m convinced that everything will work out,” Ben Sulayem added. “You can’t think about the past. There are many things to think about. We are the ones who embody the future"
This quote typifies the fact that the FIA don't want learn from past mistakes, just move on to another profitable year with no sporting integrity.
Imagine if Lewis wasn't clear favourite? Absolutely zero chance they pay out.
Negative nelly.