He's entirely right to complain. Margins are so thin in F1, especially in the middle of the pack. Essentially he lost his reward because the stewards put out the wrong flag.
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I think you should be able to work on the car but that should mean that the car starts from the pit lane.
Lewis had no idea Max was informed to let him through. Little nuance there.
If the telemetry shows Max slowed, accelerated and slowed then it's 100% on Max.
Imagine one of them gets Covid this week
That would be a wank way to settle this
That would be a wank way to settle this
hard to see why Lewis will be under any investigation for the incident
If Max got Covid, Perez has only one job next weekend
Pretty much what I said yesterday, same for tires. Perhaps with an exception of an obvious cut caused by debris.
All tied up with one race to go. All to race for. Love it
Edit: Here's laps 35-37 for both drivers
Second edit: Contact occurs at approx 5300m, the first dip down to 100 km/h.
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If it was a red flag because 2 cars had clashed front wings and then say 6 or 7 cars behind them got punctures going over the debris?
I would guess its for a scenario like that they decided a tyre change made sense?
Obviousley today that didn't happen and the rule seems daft... equally punishing a bunch of cars who couldn't avoid debris would seem harsh
Some people in this thread aren't worth trying to discuss with - this is the same guy who posted that Lewis fans are "running scared" for wanting a penalty, and then immediately followed it up by calling them "too rabid and bitter" to accept that Max did nothing wrong.
At this point I genuinely suspect it might be Max's or Horner's account.
I am not sure but it seemed like when Lewis finally did go inside on that incident Max also went inside which caused the crash
hmm. if you make the rectangle twice as wide then max’s lines look like boobies.
Hmm. Fair point. I hope the FIA takes this into consideration.
I've had exactly that thought, I really hope that doesn't happen
I’m obviously too stupid to interpret this.
Edit: Here's laps 35-37 for both drivers
Which degree do you need to understand this.
Edit: Here's laps 35-37 for both drivers
My understanding is it shows Max let go of the throttle but didn't touch his brakes.
it shows max’s range of vocals. hits a couple of highs and some reasonable lows.
Looking at the blue line, second diagram from top. The blue line has two considerable dips while the teal line doesn't, inside the yellow frame.
Seeing the same
It shows that Max broke sharply twice. I think it's second braking that caused the crash. I feel that it was to try and make Lewis pass him before the DRS line but that is regardless braking sharply when Lewis was directly behind him was dangerous.
Lewis left the stewards a while ago - haven’t seen max leave yet?
Going by that graphic, he lifted the throttle twice but didn't break
Where are you reading that? From what I see the brake like stays at 0% the whole time?
Look at the break throttle. He brakes sharply twice.
It's break and throttle. He lifts the throttle, no peak at the break line though
They are probably offering red bull a deal...
If he didn’t brake then I don’t think he’s at fault. Yeah the positioning and slight veering wasn’t helpful but legal and well within his right to give it up before the DRS. Think this stacks up with what I originally thought, an incident caused by confusion caused by terrible communication from race control.
So will there be questions asked about this track? It looks prone to accidents.
I'm sorry I don't think you understand the telemetry. The throttle shows he releases twice, the line moves down. The brake stays flat meaning he didn't touch it. They are two separate lines. Happy to be corrected if I'm reading it wrong.
Jesus that’s harsh
I was just trying to convince myself from the actual reality that it’s really much worse news for you than me
Agreed, according to the graphic the brake was 0% the whole way through. He lifts off the throttle twice accelerating hard between the two throttle drop-offs.
I was just trying to convince myself from the actual reality that it’s really much worse news for you than me
I honestly don’t give a shit about the outcome at this stage, I don’t like either of them.
Never seen a graph like that, but that's my interpretation as well