I think there’s plenty to throw at Max, but I probably wouldn’t put this on the list. As you say, all drivers do it, and this particular outburst was probably more “colourful” let’s say, but not really out of the norm.
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I think there’s plenty to throw at Max, but I probably wouldn’t put this on the list. As you say, all drivers do it, and this particular outburst was probably more “colourful” let’s say, but not really out of the norm.
Should have been more clear.
He had to either try the move around the outside and bail across the kerbs once he realised Ham was going to squeeze him (or do the same as the Ricciardo effort). Or the smarter move would’ve been to follow through the chicane and slipstream Ham up the straight to the next corner.
Yeah, I agree. He’s pissed off, but anyone would be, especially in one of the most intense championship fights for years.
No doubt once he got back to the garage and cooled off a bit he made good with the GP & the team.
Very possibly, perhaps I'm judging too harshly but I can recall people like Lewis and Seb saying stuff like "Guys, come on" rather than the tirades you hear from Max.
Yes that’s also true. I dunno, I think it’s all in the heat of the moment. It’s such an emotional vacuum inside the F1 car, I think I can probably let him go for it.
True. It seems to be the skill that is missing from Max's racing.
Max is just a bit more sweary that's all. Swearing in the Netherlands isn't seen as a big deal, they swear on live TV all the time
Obviously he's frustrated and realises he's just had the chance of extending his lead over Hamilton thrown away - I don't blame him for letting it all out in the heat of the moment.
You also don't hear all of the radio broadcasts live - they filter plenty of them off TV. You're only hearing this one because somebody decided to post it.
Just watched the Schumacher documentary on Netflix
I thought it was very well done, I remember him being my favourite driver when I was growing up, though can't remember his races that well
The fact he went to Ferrari and was such a key part in taking them back to the top was probably what cemented his greatness. Hamilton is obviously a great as well, but I'd be really interested to see what he could do in a team that needed taking back to the top.
Also how he treated all members of the team even people like the chefs and thanking them and considering them all to be important and staying late to work with the mechanics on the car
The end is utterly heartbreaking, if I hadn't put so much effort into not doing so, I'd have cried. The photos of him with his family and hearing them talk about him was what did it for me.
Seeing the old footage also shows how far the cars have come in terms of safety. Also the tracks safety, the fact there was a concrete wall for Senna to go into is horrifying. It also makes Schumacher's skiing accident all the more cruel that he could survive all those races at a time when safety wasn't anywhere near what it is now, to then suffer that accident that left him a fate worse than death in my opinion, while enjoying his retirement
I thought it was very well done, I remember him being my favourite driver when I was growing up, though can't remember his races that well
The fact he went to Ferrari and was such a key part in taking them back to the top was probably what cemented his greatness. Hamilton is obviously a great as well, but I'd be really interested to see what he could do in a team that needed taking back to the top.
Also how he treated all members of the team even people like the chefs and thanking them and considering them all to be important and staying late to work with the mechanics on the car
The end is utterly heartbreaking, if I hadn't put so much effort into not doing so, I'd have cried. The photos of him with his family and hearing them talk about him was what did it for me.
Seeing the old footage also shows how far the cars have come in terms of safety. Also the tracks safety, the fact there was a concrete wall for Senna to go into is horrifying. It also makes Schumacher's skiing accident all the more cruel that he could survive all those races at a time when safety wasn't anywhere near what it is now, to then suffer that accident that left him a fate worse than death in my opinion, while enjoying his retirement
Just seen it myself and enjoyed it.
I was actually the opposite when Schumacher was winning, it put me off F1. I think also I couldn't forgive him for that Damon Hill incident.
But was really interesting to hear his humble origins and really sad to realise just how bad the state must be that he is in now. Poor guy and such a shame for his family.
I hope Mick does well.
https://www.racefans.net/2021/09/22...s-efforts-to-court-a-new-engine-manufacturer/
Getting VW or AUDI to join F1 as a engine supplier is more complex than you think.
Getting VW or AUDI to join F1 as a engine supplier is more complex than you think.
The Monaco Grand Prix will scrap its traditional Thursday running next year and switch to a three-day format has announced F1 boss Stefano Domenicali.
F1's glitzy showcase event in the Principality has historically always kicked off on Thursday, a schedule initiated when the race was first held over the Ascension Day weekend which included a Bank holiday Friday.
For practical reasons, Formula 1 opted to maintain over the decades Monaco's traditional timetable, with Friday remaining an action-free day to allow shops and local businesses to operate normally, and residents to move around Monte-Carlo freely.
But as the sport devises its 2022 calendar, Monaco will come in line with F1's classic weekend format, a move that is believed to also facilitate logistics with the Spanish Grand Prix earmarked to take place the weekend before Monaco.
F1's glitzy showcase event in the Principality has historically always kicked off on Thursday, a schedule initiated when the race was first held over the Ascension Day weekend which included a Bank holiday Friday.
For practical reasons, Formula 1 opted to maintain over the decades Monaco's traditional timetable, with Friday remaining an action-free day to allow shops and local businesses to operate normally, and residents to move around Monte-Carlo freely.
But as the sport devises its 2022 calendar, Monaco will come in line with F1's classic weekend format, a move that is believed to also facilitate logistics with the Spanish Grand Prix earmarked to take place the weekend before Monaco.
They should just forget to show up at Monaco, do a luck dip to declare the results and save us all the hassle.
https://www.planetf1.com/news/honda-secret-upgrade/
Honda introduced a new Energy Store for the powertrain at Spa.
Honda introduced a new Energy Store for the powertrain at Spa.
Just can Monaco entirely utterly awful procession every year.
There main issue is the MGU-K which they want rid of, most of the teams seem like they are coming around this for the 2026 engine regulation changes, it makes sense they want something that is developed to be used in cars in the future and present.
Question is whether MGU-K and MGU-H will ever realistically translate over to road cars. If not they are an unnecessary expense for the manufacturer.
Mercedes announced they will be putting MGU-H in the next generation of road cars.
Not sure how i feel about it beig dropped, personally think it's great technology and getting rid of it is a backward step really.
This video is where I found out about the engine regulations, it’s adaption to road cars couldn’t be anything like what it’s used for in F1. Also it would be nice to have the lovely loud engines back again for a while before F1 goes hydrogen or electric in the future
Good video. Politics will play it's part. Mercedes, Renault and Ferrari hold all the cards as F1 cant afford to lose another engine manufacturer.
Miami GP will take place on May 6-8 in Formula 1 2022 on new track around Hard Rock Stadium; Rest of 2022 calendar yet to be revealed, but 23-race schedule expected
The event will make its F1 debut with a race around a circuit that is under construction, around the city's Hard Rock Stadium.
"There is no doubt in my mind that the Formula 1 community and the sport's fanbase worldwide are going to be amazed by what they see next May," said Miami GP CEO, Richard Cregan
The Miami GP is joining the F1 calendar on a 10-year deal
The event will make its F1 debut with a race around a circuit that is under construction, around the city's Hard Rock Stadium.
"There is no doubt in my mind that the Formula 1 community and the sport's fanbase worldwide are going to be amazed by what they see next May," said Miami GP CEO, Richard Cregan
The Miami GP is joining the F1 calendar on a 10-year deal
Totally agree, but the FIA will never drop it, its the Blue Ribbon race and part of the Triple Crown.
weather for Sochi looks interesting
Friday showers
Saturday thunderstorms, between 12 and 5pm 100% chance of rain, could make qualifying difficult.
Sunday looks to be dry.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/491422
Friday showers
Saturday thunderstorms, between 12 and 5pm 100% chance of rain, could make qualifying difficult.
Sunday looks to be dry.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/491422
Imola looks set to become a permanent fixture on the F1 calendar from next year until the end of 2025 at the least.
The circuit made its return to the sport in 2020, stepping in to host a race after the global pandemic forced many to be called off.
It was then added to the calendar again in 2021 for the same reason, taking the place of the Chinese Grand Prix, which was cancelled due to travel restrictions.
The circuit was generally positively received by fans and drivers alike, with many calling for it to be giving a permanent spot on the schedule in the future.
A leaked calendar claimed that was being considered with the sport deciding whether to have a race there or at Paul Ricard in 2022.
On Thursday, Stefano Bonaccini, the president of the Emilia-Romagna region, confirmed that a proposal had been presented to the sport.
“As a region, we have been successful for some time when it comes to bringing in sporting events of the highest calibre, and I hope that we will soon have a fixed round of the Formula 1 World Championship at the Imola circuit,” he said.
“We have submitted a proposal to the government in response to the race in 2020 and 2021. The idea is to have a permanent place on the calendar from 2022, for many years to come. I hope to receive a positive response to this soon.
“It would be a historic and fantastic achievement and it would be great for all the fans and residents of Imola and Emilia-Romagna.”
The circuit made its return to the sport in 2020, stepping in to host a race after the global pandemic forced many to be called off.
It was then added to the calendar again in 2021 for the same reason, taking the place of the Chinese Grand Prix, which was cancelled due to travel restrictions.
The circuit was generally positively received by fans and drivers alike, with many calling for it to be giving a permanent spot on the schedule in the future.
A leaked calendar claimed that was being considered with the sport deciding whether to have a race there or at Paul Ricard in 2022.
On Thursday, Stefano Bonaccini, the president of the Emilia-Romagna region, confirmed that a proposal had been presented to the sport.
“As a region, we have been successful for some time when it comes to bringing in sporting events of the highest calibre, and I hope that we will soon have a fixed round of the Formula 1 World Championship at the Imola circuit,” he said.
“We have submitted a proposal to the government in response to the race in 2020 and 2021. The idea is to have a permanent place on the calendar from 2022, for many years to come. I hope to receive a positive response to this soon.
“It would be a historic and fantastic achievement and it would be great for all the fans and residents of Imola and Emilia-Romagna.”
Dump Paul Ricard circuit its crap and gives me a headache with it's stupid coloured run off areas.
Seconded and bring Hockenheimring back please
I also agree, Paul Ricard is not a good track.
Russian GP FP1
Russian GP Practice One Timesheet
| Driver | Team | Time |
|---|---|---|
| 1) Valtteri Bottas | Mercedes | 1:34.427 |
| 2) Lewis Hamilton | Mercedes | +0.211 |
| 3) Max Verstappen | Red Bull | +0.227 |
| 4) Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | +0.690 |
| 5) Sebastian Vettel | Aston Martin | +1.354 |
| 6) Pierre Gasly | AlphaTauri | +1.367 |
| 7) Carlos Sainz | Ferrari | +1.384 |
| 8) Lando Norris | McLaren | +1.532 |
| 9) Sergio Perez | Red Bull | +1.761 |
| 10) Fernando Alonso | Alpine | +1.798 |
| 11) Esteban Ocon | Alpine | +1.809 |
| 12) Lance Stroll | Aston Martin | +2.095 |
| 13) Antonio Giovinazzi | Alfa Romeo | +2.368 |
| 14) Daniel Ricciardo | McLaren | +2.450 |
| 15) Kimi Raikkonen | Alfa Romeo | +2.525 |
| 16) Yuki Tsunoda | AlphaTauri | +3.367 |
| 17) George Russell | Williams | +3.586 |
| 18) Nicholas Latifi | Williams | +3.728 |
| 19) Nikita Mazepin | Haas | +4.159 |
| 20) Mick Schumacher | Haas | +4.550 |
Max decides to take a new engine so he skips his penalty by starting at the back of the grid instead. Feel like the rules should be changed so the penalty is valid for the next race instead.
Max said similar things. All from Lewis making some pretty normal comments yesterday about the pressure in a title fight. I dunno kinda sounds like the pressure is getting to them the way they’ve acted recently.
Is it definite though? I thought they were going to wait to see outcome of qualifying I.e. if max sticks it on pole and is dropped to 4th via penalty then maybe they wont change the engine.
Knew it would happen, making the penalty null and void.
Nothing in rules against it, maybe there should be .
Considering it's Mercedes fault he has to take a penalty in the first place, it's probably still harsh on Verstappen.
I don't think he's going to go sailing through the grid this weekend, especially with Leclerc in front of him.
If it rains on Sunday who knows. If his (max) luck is in and theres a safety car or two he could still end up in the top 5 or even podium.
When your destined to win a championship luck seems to arrive when you most need it. Thinking back to Seb at RB getting 2 or 3 saftey cars in one of the middle east races when starting at the back or the grid and still making the podium. Or Seb again at brazil when he spun his RB at turn 4, was facing the wrong way and the entire pack somehow didnt clip his at at all. He turned the car around and his race and got a points finish which helped him towards his championship that year.
When your destined to win a championship luck seems to arrive when you most need it. Thinking back to Seb at RB getting 2 or 3 saftey cars in one of the middle east races when starting at the back or the grid and still making the podium. Or Seb again at brazil when he spun his RB at turn 4, was facing the wrong way and the entire pack somehow didnt clip his at at all. He turned the car around and his race and got a points finish which helped him towards his championship that year.
Russian GP FP2
Russian GP Practice Two Timesheet
| Driver | Team | Time |
|---|---|---|
| 1) Valtteri Bottas | Mercedes | 1:33.593 |
| 2) Lewis Hamilton | Mercedes | +0.044 |
| 3) Pierre Gasly | AlphaTauri | +0.252 |
| 4) Lando Norris | McLaren | +0.561 |
| 5) Esteban Ocon | Alpine | +0.809 |
| 6) Max Verstappen | Red Bull | +1.028 |
| 7) Carlos Sainz | Ferrari | +1.085 |
| 8) Fernando Alonso | Alpine | +1.169 |
| 9) Sebastian Vettel | Aston Martin | +1.244 |
| 10) Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | +1.322 |
| 11) Sergio Perez | Red Bull | +1.345 |
| 12) Kimi Raikkonen | Alfa Romeo | +1.459 |
| 13) George Russell | Williams | +1.501 |
| 14) Antonio Giovinazzi | Alfa Romeo | +1.585 |
| 15) Lance Stroll | Aston Martin | +1.741 |
| 16) Nicholas Latifi | Williams | +1.818 |
| 17) Daniel Ricciardo | McLaren | +2.037 |
| 18) Yuki Tsunoda | AlphaTauri | +2.361 |
| 19) Nikita Mazepin | Haas | +2.506 |
| 20) Mick Schumacher | Haas | +2.637 |
Definitely. Is this something that could happen?
Classic Red Bull trying to cheat their way out of a penalty.
How is it Mercedes fault?
The Bottas crash took this engine.. But it isn't really Mercedes' fault. The tribalisim in this thread is hilarious!
How is Max cheating out of a penalty? I thought the penalty was to go to the back of the grid?
The penalty from Italy was a 3 or 4 place grid penalty I believe. Hard to apply the penalty if you start from the back of the grid!
Well it was caused by Hamilton's crash which damaged the engine beyond repair. My point is, if they dodge a 3 place grid penalty because they have to start at the back of the grid due to having to use an extra engine already - that's probably still harsh on RB.
I don' think with Leclerc starting ahead of him either will help. They'll sail past the Haas' but it won't be so easy once they reach the top 10-15.
I think it's safe to say as long as Hamilton finishes he should be taking the lead come sunday evening.