F1 2021 Season

NK86 said:
So he didn't take out Max? Was the whole thing a dream?
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Not decided either way yet.
From what I have seen, yeah the 10 second was maybe right, but taken out no totally disagree with you, seen incidents like it many times and the same penalty has been given out.
But if you think he took him out, deliberately, wish the risk of taking himself out also, you knock your socks off..
Winning from where he was after the penalty, was an excellent drive, but you won't agree and that's OK.
 
NK86 said:
You quoted a poster saying Hamilton was in a car which was capable of doing 1 sec a lap faster than Leclerc by asking why was Bottas not able to do it. You yourself answered it by saying as Bottas is nowhere near Hamilton's class, but that doesn't mean Hamilton was somehow driving way beyond the car's ability to reel in Leclerc. The fact remains that Merc is much faster than Ferrari and this race just confirmed that again.
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no idea where you’re going with this.

hamilton is in a fast car yes, but bottas is in the same. he can’t do what hamilton can, so surely that emphasis just how good he is?
 
Adam-Utd said:
a championship has never been won in the last race by a title rival shunting another one off.

never.
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Doesn't matter what's happened in the past. This let's the drivers know they can do it with minimal consequences if it comes to it.
 
A bit of humility and modesty would be appropriate after the way he won in stead of this excessive celebration..
 
Frosty said:
I honestly don't see it going that way. I think the experience of Mercedes and Hamilton will win out eventually. My feeling was that Max and RB had to pile on the points in the first half of the season and hold off the inevitable Mercedes response. I wouldn't be surprised to see Hamilton walk away with it again.
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Like with Ferrari in 2018? That was a feck up by Ferrari and Vettel, cant see RB doing the same though
Honestly i think this year RB car is the fastest, they should win it really.
 
I don't like the Mercedes / Hamilton combo but that was a racing incident.. 10 second penalty shouldn't have been given.

That being said, I now hope Max smashes Mercedes and wins the championship, before my team Ferrari come back next year.
 
I think Max still wins the championship but I will never not enjoy Horner moaning, an absolute knobber.
 
hobbers said:
You see comments like this and you have to marvel at the power of fanboyism.

How is your view of that incident this badly distorted? :lol:
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Yeah whereas you're a paragon of level-headedness. You've been having tantrums since the incident, you're just as much of a fan boy as anyone you reply to.
 
vangagal said:
If this not a WUM, some of your post are just really rubbish.

Chill out mate.
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If he's had a great drive he's had a great drive, and there have been some. But he's in the fastest car, he's lucky his mistake (let's assume) takes out his rival and not him, he gets the lightest possible penalty that is easily compensated for by the speed of his car, he's lucky he can get his car repaired, Sainz gets a bad pitstop, Bottas gets teamorders and he catches Leclerc in a far slower car. That's in no way a brilliant drive, it's a very, very lucky win and an injustice to his rival that he caused. It takes a typically entitled Englishman to not show any modesty and it takes even more entitled Englishmen not to feel embarassed about it.
 
Horner : “I hope Lewis Hamilton is very happy with himself”

:lol: mardy prick
 
Fluctuation0161 said:
Leclerc shows what Max should've done.
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If you run off the track then thats not the right thing clearly (both drivers have to give room) Lewis also backed out of the move on the corner that time too. As Jenson said LeClerc probably didnt want to get shunted (in other words didnt trust Hamilton)
 
max shows him to the inside by positioning himself on the outside (racing line) he clearly expected hamilton to back out, but he didn’t.

if he was smart he would have pushed him to the outside and held the inside of the corner forcing lewis wide.

it’s a racing incident, they both made errors.
 
Max's car is that much faster, he could have given Lewis the ground and reeled him back in later in the race.

Likely that Lewis psyched him out by driving all over him on the first lap. If the roles are reversed, I suggest that's what Lewis would have done.
 
LoneStar said:
This sets a bad precedent though. Imagine if we are at the tail end of the season and have a very close title race. If the leader knows that they will get a 10s penalty for pushing thier rival off track, then they will do it.
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Championships have been won when a driver purposely took himself and his rival out of the race.

Besides, this move by Lewis has been done multiple times by Max himself, he's just lucky that the other drivers weren't being complete idiots and that they backed out to save themselves from crashing.
 
Fluctuation0161 said:
Leclerc shows what Max should've done.
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Max will never yield to Lewis, they’re both racers fighting for the title, I won’t be surprised if we see this again.

I want to see the RBR reaction if it’s Max picking up the penalty this time, not sure if they will be calling for him to banned from the race.
 
Dr. Funkenstein said:
If he's had a great drive he's had a great drive, and there have been some. But he's in the fastest car, he's lucky his mistake (let's assume) takes out his rival and not him, he gets the lightest possible penalty that is easily compensated for by the speed of his car, he's lucky he can get his car repaired, Sainz gets a bad pitstop, Bottas gets teamorders and he catches Leclerc in a far slower car. That's in no way a brilliant drive, it's a very, very lucky win and an injustice to his rival that he caused. It takes a typically entitled Englishman to not show any modesty and it takes even more entitled Englishmen not to feel embarassed about it.
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Mate you embarrass yourself more and more every day in this thread. You're still pretending the Merc is faster this year? Give it a rest already.
 
Hopefully Red Bull get a heavy penalty and a race suspension for Max due to Horners derogatory comments
 
Frosty said:
I honestly don't see it going that way. I think the experience of Mercedes and Hamilton will win out eventually. My feeling was that Max and RB had to pile on the points in the first half of the season and hold off the inevitable Mercedes response. I wouldn't be surprised to see Hamilton walk away with it again.
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There wont be a response this is it for upgrades for almost all teams. Hungary is the last race before summer break. Then ever team switches focus to 2022 cars 100%. You can't afford not to otherwise it could takes years to catchup.

Looking at the races left, it will be max's first WDC and he deserves one (as does leclerc eventually).

They will tangle again no doubt.

I am a big lewis fan, but no issues with max. Horner on the other hand....
 
If positions were reversed would Max have backed out or do exactly what Hamilton would have done? Even the most ardent Verstappan fan boys know Max would have done exactly the same. Max is a do or die driver, other drivers Hamilton and Vettel had mentioned on multiple occasions in the past you have to race differently against him. Max was all over the place on that first lap.and he pushes everything past the limit for me. He weaves all over when Hamilton is behind trying to break the toe. Last few weeks others drivers started doing it and were warned. Hamilton took norris and leclerc on the same corner, so it shows you can do it. Obviously, if 2 drivers will not yield then this is going to happen.
 
rpitroda said:
Because other teams don’t do it too, of course.
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No team should be allowed to do it. I hated it as well when I had passion to watch every race, prac and quali during Hakkinen and Schumacher era. Its no race if you are not allowed to race against your teammate.
 
Adam-Utd said:
no idea where you’re going with this.

hamilton is in a fast car yes, but bottas is in the same. he can’t do what hamilton can, so surely that emphasis just how good he is?
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All that proves is that Hamilton is a better driver than Bottas and in a car a second faster than Ferrari. What exactly were you trying to say when you pointed out why Bottas couldn't get past Leclerc. Isn't the answer simple - Bottas is not good enough to pass Leclerc even in a faster car. What has Hamilton got to do with it?
 
hobbers said:
Come on, really?

Norris let him past. And Hamilton had passed Leclerc a good 2-3 car lengths before the corner. Not comparable at all.
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Yet Horner made a case to the race director that no racer would ever try to pass on that corner because it is impossible.
 
hobbers said:
You see comments like this and you have to marvel at the power of fanboyism.

How is your view of that incident this badly distorted? :lol:
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Lewis was up his side before the turn and Max still decided to cut. It wouldn’t have helped if Lewis drove the line as tight as possible. So blaming this on Lewis alone is bullshit.
 
hp88 said:
Max will never yield to Lewis, they’re both racers fighting for the title, I won’t be surprised if we see this again.

I want to see the RBR reaction if it’s Max picking up the penalty this time, not sure if they will be calling for him to banned from the race.
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Agree, they won't. Max took out perez last year (who went on to win) no penalty which was clearer than this.
 
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