Kleberson was not that bad, he was very unlucky and came to the club when we were really bad. If he had come in four years later, it could all have been very different.
Everton Ribeiro
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Kleberson was not that bad, he was very unlucky and came to the club when we were really bad. If he had come in four years later, it could all have been very different.
He married a fifteen year old, that's pretty bad.
Kleberson would get into our current midfield 
Obviously his letter to Jim'll Fix It made it there in the end
Yeah he was an average left back then moved to a new club and exploded as an AM apparently.
£12mill will be more than enough then.
Sounds doable in January. It's hard to say if we're genuinely interested though.
Let's do it, let's just sign someone, I don't care who as long as he's good enough.
Well their league runs differently to ours and starts in January, so it should be easier than signing someone from Europe.
Yep. It's the first hint of us being able to do a transfer so if we're interested then let's hope it gets done.
I actually read your post wrong and thought you said it isn't doable in January
But yeah, hopefully we can wrap up some business this January. If we can sign 1 CM and 1 LB and offload Buttner, I'll be extremely happy. I couldn't care less if they're cup tied either, people put too much emphasis on a player being cup tied, their careers will last longer than just 1 season with us.
Whoever Moyes has in mind for our major purchases, they're seemingly not available at the moment. I've got a feeling that it's Koke and Reus. Reus has a release clause in the summer, though I'm not sure how much.
A left back and someone like Ribeiro would do for me. I'm happy to wait till summer for the CM if that's what it takes to get the right player.
A left back and someone like Ribeiro would do for me. I'm happy to wait till summer for the CM if that's what it takes to get the right player.
Koke and Reus will not join without CL football. People need to understand this.
Modern day footballer priorities - Money, CL, Club...in that order.
The idea of Koke joining us either this month or in the summer is hilarious (assuming we don't get 4th). It's not going to happen.
Why not?
If we can't offer CL football I don't think he'd want to come here over staying at Athletico. And that's not even factoring in other suitors, if he is available.
The guy has just broken through at a highly promising team under one of the best managers in the world. Yes, Athletico are, in terms of club stature, nothing compared to us. But they're far more likely to be in the CL next season, or to win it for that matter (not that I think they will, but they've a better chance than us). Add that he'd be leaving his country to come here, plus a dash of reservations regarding our manager...It's not a particularly enticing offer is it?
The only thing we can really offer over Athletico right now is higher wages. Given his young age, that probably will not be enough to sway him against all the aforementioned factors.
He would never get a work permit.
Brazilian player of the year? He might do.
Has he ever been capped by Brazil? I guess he might get special dispensation because it's Brazil, but I don't think so.
I remember Anderson getting a work permit because of some special talent ruling, surely the same would apply to Everton?
Who are all these clubs that want Koke? lol. I keep saying just because we want a centre midfielder don't think every top club in Europe wants one too and if they do they will do what they always do and chase the Vidal's of this world. Koke is still the equivalent of getting a Xabi Alonso from Sociedad or Toure from Monaco.. he's not a merchandise signing. Lets get real and not first on everyones list. If our midfield was in good shape i don't think the fans would care too much about him and wouldn't blink to eye lids if we signed him except maybe he can be so and so's successor.
We offer more money, more prestige and more chance of success over anything more than the short term. He won't come in January but if he has a straight choice between Atletico or us in the summer he'll choose us. We're on a totally different level to them.
Our problem would be other suitors. The likes of Madrid, Barca and Bayern would be bigger draws and other clubs will offer more money or a better lifestyle. Having said that, every time we talk about signing a top player we say "he'll be off to Barca/Madrid/whoever". They can't sign everyone ffs.
So no bids so far.
Kleberson would get into our current midfield
Kleberson was a good player but he needed to be in a midfield with other better midfielders. He reminds me of the Kagawa situation.
It sounds to me that its Ribeiro's camp that's trying to force through this deal rather than United.
Manchester United linked with audacious double swoop for for Dede and Everton Ribeiro
MANCHESTER UNITED could make a double swoop in Brazil to land centre-back Dede and attacking midfield ace Everton Ribeiro.
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By Gary Jones/Published 10th January 2014
Dede (R) in action for his former club Vasco da Gama [GETTY]
The Cruzeiro duo have both been linked to the Old Trafford outfit since the close of the summer transfer window last year, and also hold hefty price-tags.
Reports in Brazil claim Dede and Ribeiro have been valued around £13m and would prove to be bigger than United's spending in the winter window last season, which saw Wilfried Zaha join the club for a deal thought to be worth around £10-£15m.
24-year-old Ribeiro was named player of the year in Brazil's top flight last term and has widely been linked to United, with the Red Devils proving to be weakest in the middle of the park.
Moyes meanwhile is still looking to land a long-term replacement for Patrice Evra in the January transfer window with the French ace expected to leave Old Trafford in the summer so he can finish his career in France.
His departure will leave Moyes with a huge void to fill and the United boss has identified Leighton Baines and Luke Shaw as his top targets to replace him, but may move his search further afield to Dede, having received fierce retaliation from Everton and Southampton over any transfer attempts.
Ribeiro (L) could be part of an audacious double swoop for Manchester United [GETTY]
Cruzeiro Club president Gilvan de Pinho Tavares meanwhile is adamant is will take a big offer to lure the Ribeiro away.“They will need to offer a lot of money to sign him”
Cruzeiro Club president Gilvan de Pinho Tavares
Tavares said: "They will need to offer a lot of money to sign him.
"I can't ensure he will be at the club his whole life, but if an offer reaches what I want.
"I am good at keeping players at the club, so the fans can be calm as it won't be any offer that will be enough to sign Everton Ribeiro."
Still sounds like they're trying to sell.
Trying to use our name to drum up interest.
South American player + interest from United = move to Porto for 1/3 of the original price quoted.
Allegedly were are supposed to turn to him and his teammate Dede in this window to help us ''turn things around.''....
Sounds like a buy him whilst you can warning.
From the same interview, apparently the offers were 1 from a German team, 2 from England and 1 undisclosed.
Lance reporting a 10 mil euro bid has been made by an English club in the champions league, which has been rejected straight away.
Just reading on twitter and people are saying that Cruzeiro were trying to keep the bid secret and that there's talks scheduled for the next few days.
He plays football? Sign him.
Spurs is the rumour, not sure about the CL club.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...-for-manchester-united-target-everton-ribeiro
Sky Sports are now reporting this.
Sky Sports are now reporting this.
If it is then I'm surprised we've bid so low. £12 mil is believed to be the starting price. I'd give them £15 to wrap it up quick
He seems interested in coming here, let's see what happens. Sounds like another deal we could get done though.