European Super League

[TsuWave]

Good thing I’m not into football as much I used to be. United being crap for so long has made it easier to miss the odd game, falling asleep on the couch whilst watching or just turning up to catch the last 15 minutes. Stuff that used to be sacrilegious.

should be easier to eventually let it go

 

[Mickeza]

I meant for the clubs in this competition obviously.

Why would us, United fans, give a shit where we're finishing when top 4 just doesn't matter any more? It makes following the league and being passionate about the results totally pointless.

We’re in it to win it. The idea of celebrating 4th was bollocks too.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

The lure is more money for the owners and a closed shop that allows clubs that fall apart like Milan, Arsenal etc.. to stay in the cash flow.

From a spectator stand point.

It's like a shit Champions League without the history/prestige.

 

[TheGodsInRed]

People saying to deduct 30 points for all these teams. Is that something they can actually do? i.e. in the rules. I doubt it. All they have done so far is announce a plan.

 

[Crashoutcassius]

Reading the statement, it looks like between 18 and 25 mid week games a season, most of which will be dead rubbers

 

[crossy1686]

No, he's right. I'm deeply ashamed of United tonight. The club that took English football into European competition now walks out, in order to establish a new closed shop for the mega rich.

We lost our best ever team whilst trying to win the European Cup. Is nothing sacred? Those players and Sir Matt will be turning in their graves.

Well what better way to start a new era than winning the new incarnation of the European cup.

 

[JPRouve]

Reading that statement on the United website it sounds like the clubs feel UEFA are not giving them enough financial return from the current Champions League?

Yes, that's the reason. It's tiring to see people use made up reasons when these same clubs have said for years what the problem was, the big clubs want a larger share of the pie because they are the ones generating the money.

 

[Rightnr]

What are you sick about? Your team isn't going to qualify for CL football and you just got given a lifeline for a better competition that will secure the future of Tottenham. But yeah, game's gone or whatever

You failed to respond to my earlier post? You seem to be awfully in favour of this. Explain why you think this is good for fans?

Are you getting paid for this propaganda?

 

[PSV]

If true, this will make some think twice. Would be some reaction.

It's a gift to the players involved. Imagine not having to deal with Qatar because you're banned. That's a win-win if I ever saw one.

 

[littlepeasoup]

So the five additional non-Founder clubs just get rotated out every season then? Based on achievements in other competitions? Who decides who gets in and how?

Best Hipster club. Club with the best kit. Best club you can just about pronounce the name of. Club with the highest percentage of hotties (you know... for the ladies).

And PSG.

 

[VP89]

So the five additional non-Founder clubs just get rotated out every season then? Based on achievements in other competitions? Who decides who gets in and how?

They will decide on random shit like Snakes and Ladders feck knows but I'm probably not far off.

 

[Tincanalley]

They are ready to go forward, I don't think that will matter.
I am more interested by the Spanish clubs like Real or Barcelona, can they really do that without the approval of their socios? I hope not.
For the UK, my hope is that the government changes the legislation for good and decides that this is an attempt to hurt national interests and therefore, a change in ownership is being forced through a forced sale for that reason.

But none of the PL kicking them out will really matter to those clubs if they decided to join that SL.

Yes - please - fans get on to politicians

 

[Springfield WildCats]

I’ve been hundreds of games, loved the good times, the current shit times have me made me
Love united more, never thought I’d walk away from United, time to go follow Oldham or bury

 

[Ronaldo's ego]

So we’ll never see United win another CL and lift that trophy with that music playing

 

[Tom Van Persie]

 

[padr81]

So the five additional non-Founder clubs just get rotated out every season then? Based on achievements in other competitions? Who decides who gets in and how?

Nope there will be these 12 and 3 more founders (apparently Bayern, Leipzig and Porto) that can't be relegated for 20 years. The other 5 clubs will be invited and are replacable.

 

[pacifictheme]

Our players died to play in the European Cup and now we're going to abandon that to be part of an unimpeachable cabal of rich twats. It's a disgraceful insult to our history. The Glazers want to dismantle everything we've ever worked for.

Nah they died because the fa were a bunch of cnuts.

 

[Tiber]

It's been coming for a decade.

 

[VorZakone]

Absolute disgrace.

 

[predator]

But but...fan owned clubs in Germany?

I know yeah
Following the money. Couldn't resist.

 

[Tom Van Persie]

Our players died to play in the European Cup and now we're going to abandon that to be part of an unimpeachable cabal of rich twats. It's a disgraceful insult to our history. The Glazers want to dismantle everything we've ever worked for.

Well said. It's a fecking joke.

 

[horsechoker]

Our players died to play in the European Cup and now we're going to abandon that to be part of an unimpeachable cabal of rich twats. It's a disgraceful insult to our history. The Glazers want to dismantle everything we've ever worked for.

They didn't die to play in Europe, they died because the football league wouldn't postpone their game and threatened to dock points if United weren't in the UK by a certain time before kick off.

 

[Rolandofgilead]

Over reaction, no?

Not in the slightest.

 

[balaks]

Some people happy to ditch the champions League for a yearly set of glorified friendlies.

 

[Counterfactual]

Not really, it's just become the Johnstons Paint Trophy

UEFA's Leyland DAF Cup!

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

According to the Juve statement, the founding clubs each have to put in 2m euros for an equal share of the holding company. That means you could get four entries for the price of one Bebe

1 x Fred could buy 2 x Super Leagues.

 

[90 + 5min]

The clubs will be banned immediately?

Well, that would not be completly out of question if I was in charge of UEFA / The FA / FIFA.

 

[diarm]

not for each club! Will clearly be shared amongst the founding members. Still in the region of 300m, but not 3.5bn each club!!

Ah ok. The way that was worded made me think they were getting that amount each. Makes no odds to us either way as 95% of it will be going in the Glazers pockets.

 

[Karel Podolsky]

What does Chuck Norris say?

I am more interested in what Neil Breen says.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

What can a player do if hes registered to a founding club?

Hand in a transfer request right now and join Aston Villa.

 

[Rustyspider13]

They are ready to go forward, I don't think that will matter.
I am more interested by the Spanish clubs like Real or Madrid, can they really do that without the approval of their socios? I hope not.
For the UK, my hope is that the government changes the legislation for good and decides that this is an attempt to hurt national interests and therefore, a change in ownership is being forced through a forced sale for that reason.

But none of the PL kicking them out will really matter to those clubs if they decided to join that SL.

I just can't see all those clubs collectively telling the fans of Europe's biggest countries to feck off like this, so many local derbies will just vanish. But then again greed has led to actual wars so football can't compare.

I hope you're right about government legislation. If this disastrous proposal leads to those leeches getting out of United it'll be the biggest blessing in disguise ever.

 

[always_hoping]

All club statements out now. Things have escalated quickly. In truth this European league was signed and sealed ages ago by the money men and only now its made public.

 

[izec]

As if they didnt expect that from Uefa or the PL.

 

[crossy1686]

It means the end of the FA Cup, the CL and will be governed by the teams that actually play in it. How can you possibly think that is all a good idea?

It doesn't mean the end of the FA cup. The FA are trying to gain control of the situation and are making threats that would destroy their own league. The CL will involve teams that no one cares about watching other than their own fans. When Fenerbache win it I'm sure it will be a big deal for them but we'll be playing Madrid for the SL

 

[reddevil702]

Just because you don't have a clue, that doesn't mean it's not possible to have one.

Oh yes, please enlighten me as to what your crystal ball is telling you.

 

[Get In Scholesy]

It seems as if this is another midweek competition, they aren’t leaving the Premier League, this new competition is just a way for these clubs to make more money (more exposure, sponsorships etc)

I don’t quite understand the uproar on a domestic level. I seriously doubt this will make these clubs less focused on their domestic league. The better they do in each competition, the more money they make (which is the point of the game these days)

I think Sky (as an example) and other media outlets are up in arms because it damages them financially, not so much the game itself.

 

[Crashoutcassius]

We’re in it to win it. The idea of celebrating 4th was bollocks too.

It is the idea that to get the reward of cl football you had to compete. Now there is no requirement for a club to invest to try to compete, just get as many games in as possible in the year and count the money

 

[Rightnr]

Yes, that's the reason. It's tiring to see people use made up reasons when these same clubs have said for years what the problem was, the big clubs want a larger share of the pie because they are the ones generating the money.

Basically their owners want more money and want to stop smaller clubs from having a fair chance to compete.

Football is not about 'generating' revenue. It's a sport where excellence should be promoted and everyone given as fair as possible crack of the whip.

I am honestly sick some of you guys are supporting this degeneracy.

 

[Tom Cato]

People do understand that this means the Premier League as the primary contest of the season becomes extinct?

 

[Cast5]

If it happens these midweek super league games need to be protested, anyone trying to enter the ground should be egged.