European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?

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Mickeza said:
Considering 6 PL clubs are going to now have an additional 300m in revenue you’d think that’d just strengthen the league even further.
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This is where some of you people are missing a beat. The PL is only competitive because teams have an incentive to make CL each year which makes them money.

With no top teams in the CL, the TV rights will be nowhere near as valuable and so the incentive of the small guys to make the top 4 disappears.

Also, just look at the money being spoken of. 350m a year. Right now, the best-paid English team is getting around £160m if they win the PL. That's a huge increase.
 
Oly Francis said:
That's not it, BeIN isn't going to broadcast the most interesting games (canal + got them) and I doubt they paid more than 100M for that, it's far less than what PSG would get playing in the superleague and i doubt they care about the money anyway.
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Yeah, must be linked to Qatar World Cup most likely - they won’t want to risk that.
 
diarm said:
That's two people I've read say that this would result in them leaving football for basketball.

Aside from any of the other issues of greed, ringfencing, betrayal etc, the people in charge need to take a long hard look at themselves and consider what the victims of their selfishness are having to resort to here.

Basketball.
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I'm going full time rugby league, at least I won't have to worry when they clash United and Wigan games like they do every fecking week.
 
DOTA said:
I don't believe for a moment that would happen. Government just posturing.
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If they think it could win votes they'd 100% do it. Any politician would. What's the downside? A few angry rich blokes. Doesn't really matter if it gives you the votes you need to stay in power does it?
 
#07 said:
If they think it could win votes they'd 100% do it. Any politician would. What's the downside? A few angry rich blokes. Doesn't really matter if it gives you the votes you need to stay in power does it?
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They wouldn't win votes.
 
Born2Lose said:
I'm reserving judgement on this until I see the costs involved for fans. United would be able to strip away middlemen like BT/SKY, the many PL clubs who receive more than they give, the FA and UEFA. They'd be able to distribute the games themselves globally and provide it at at much more reasonable cost while multiplying their income.

Football died years ago, I know plenty of people who won't pay Sky/BT subs on principle who might get back to watching United if the cost was reduced and they weren't subsiding the FA, UEFA and the hanger on PL clubs.
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If you think American companies and owners of all things will keep the cost down, you have got to be kidding. Look at all the subscription services increasing their charges over time. They lock you in and then raise prices.

And in this case, there's no options.
 
Rightnr said:
This is where some of you people are missing a beat. The PL is only competitive because teams have an incentive to make CL each year which makes them money.

With no top teams in the CL, the TV rights will be nowhere near as valuable and so the incentive of the small guys to make the top 4 disappears.

Also, just look at the money being spoken of. 350m a year. Right now, the best-paid English team is getting around £160m if they win the PL. That's a huge increase.
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What? Realistically how many teams have a realistic top 4 shot each year? This “PL is so fair and equal as it is” narrative is utter nonsense.
 
#07 said:
If they think it could win votes they'd 100% do it. Any politician would. What's the downside? A few angry rich blokes. Doesn't really matter if it gives you the votes you need to stay in power does it?
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Boris will bow down to Abu Dhabi. Thats the position football is in.
 
diarm said:
That's two people I've read say that this would result in them leaving football for basketball.

Aside from any of the other issues of greed, ringfencing, betrayal etc, the people in charge need to take a long hard look at themselves and consider what the victims of their selfishness are having to resort to here.

Basketball.
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And what a terribly shit, individual-based sport that has become.

Awful situation here overall.
 
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Rightnr said:
This is where some of you people are missing a beat. The PL is only competitive because teams have an incentive to make CL each year which makes them money.
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This.

Youll also just get the top sides having even more money than everyone else. They'd probably just stock quality players, and play a B team in the league anyway.
 
Mr Pigeon said:
So what if United join this Superb League? A few fancy games, great commercial opportunities, gain loads of dosh, players come back to England covered in gold, hey United did you get a haircut, look closer Lenny, bloody fantastic and everyone's a winner. Who are Sunderland? The team playing against the guys who hammered AC Milan in a 1-1 draw in Peru across the road from Ian's burger van.

Anyone who doesn't see the greatness of this whole plan is a total idiot.
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What about the long term? What about the football pyramid where the Premier League's massive financial power trickles down (even in a small way) all the way to the smallest teams in the farthest parts of the country?
Without that structure football falls apart completely. No more constant conveyor belt of players where cream rises to the top and in some way is balanced out to provide some competition.
Yes this will provide massive financial gains to the clubs involved but it is short sighted and immensely damaging to the entire game.
 
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Joel Glazer: "The Super League will open a new chapter for European football, ensuring world-class competition and facilities, and increased financial support for the wider football pyramid"


Lovely lovely Glazers
 
diarm said:
Aren't drafts based on a college system though?

It's totally unrealistic to expect a draft system in football where clubs produce players through their own academy. There would be no incentive to invest in player development.
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No, not necessarily. The NHL for example has a draft age that precedes college, and the vast majority of its draftees are out of the Canadian Major Junior Leagues or Europe.

I agree an entry draft on the NA model seems a feature that would be hard for a SL to adopt. But you could imagine for example a system where you have a draft to distribute the rights to players in non-SL clubs, but with the possibility to sign young players below a certain age for development in your own system. Combined with putting player movement between SL clubs on trade basis rather than for cash.
 
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The 12 clubs are the clubs that Romano's Tweet covered. 3 more clubs will join as Founding Clubs as stated here:


Joel Glazer as a vice president, though... :lol:
 
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