European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?


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Gabriele Marcotti: "If the rebel clubs stay in domestic leagues, there's an even greater domestic inbalance in already unbalanced leagues due to greater Euro revenue"
 
Aren't drafts based on a college system though?

It's totally unrealistic to expect a draft system in football where clubs produce players through their own academy. There would be no incentive to invest in player development.
 
Laporta just gave an interview saying that he'd rather have a club world cup than a super league.

I'm totally confused atm.

He first admits that the super league is real but also offers an alternative. It's a money grab, they aren't going to announce a thing, they want the UEFA to make a move and cave once again.
 
I think the PL clubs involved should be very wary. If you follow the money the PL is becoming, by far, the richest league in the world and some of the other leagues realize this and don't want to miss out. I wouldn't be surprised if the Italian, La Liga and Bundesliga clubs are the ones pushing this so they can get in on more lucrative TV contracts. If things stay the same more and more of the best players and coaches will end up in England. These other clubs are probably very concerned about this and the super league would balance things out for them.

But, if you are the traditional big six and generate so much income yet have to share it with the likes of Burnley, Sheffield United etc, wouldn't you want to break away and maximise your revenue?
 
I don't like the term "rebel clubs". It makes them sound like good underdogs out to destroy a death star.

Also, Tottenham are totally the Chewbacca of that analogy.

Nah Chewbacca is way too cool. Spurs are Ewoks with notions.
 
Chelsea doesn't own the name of the club, or the freehold on the stadium either. They should probably be a bit fecking careful about what shit they try and force down our fans throats.
 
For those who think this might not be so bad, consider this: One part of this is for sure going to be parity mechanisms - ie, rules designed to ensure that everyone in the SL are comparably competitive, and that costs are kept down. We've already seen a proposal to ban transfers between the top clubs, and apparently fear of such mechanisms is the main reason why PSG has not so far joined the initiative. All the US major leagues have these. Entry drafts in reverse order of finish, giving the worst team first pick of the young talent. Salary caps, ensuring that no one can outspend rivals on wages. Prohibitions on transfers for cash - if you want to acquire someone, you have to pay in players and/or draft picks. The idea being to stop those with the most money from using that for advantage. And the ideal being a league where everyone is roughly equally good, so that everyone has a chance to win. And where you are rewarded for doing badly. And where if you happen to build a really top team, you can't keep it together for any length of time because you'll come up against the salary cap as your players expect improved contracts as a result of doing well. Just look at today's NHL, where Stanley Cup-winning teams have to be broken up, everybody seems to have 4-5 really good players and this year's table might well end up in the reverse order next year. It's just totally boring. Enforced parity turns the sport into a charade, where everyone has a dice to roll every year.
 
Chelsea doesn't own the name of the club, or the freehold on the stadium either. They should probably be a bit fecking careful about what shit they try and force down our fans throats.

I'm pretty jealous of that. Would love it if there was a way for us to wrestle back out club off the Glazers.
 
If the clubs are not bailing on the leagues of their respective countries but bailing on UCL. I could live with that to be honest. Although it would mean Liverpool would always be able to lord UCL titles over us.
 
I think the PL clubs involved should be very wary. If you follow the money the PL is becoming, by far, the richest league in the world and some of the other leagues realize this and don't want to miss out. I wouldn't be surprised if the Italian, La Liga and Bundesliga clubs are the ones pushing this so they can get in on more lucrative TV contracts. If things stay the same more and more of the best players and coaches will end up in England. These other clubs are probably very concerned about this and the super league would balance things out for them.

That's actually pretty true. Lets take PSG for instance. France is hemoraging great players who decide to leave the country because the league isn't good enough. With a superleague, we could get the best players France can produce.
Also, with things balanced, players will be tempted to play for a team located in the best city they can pick and a lot would rather live in Madrid, Paris or Barcelona than Manchester or Liverpool.

For the record, i hate the idea of a superleague even if PSG might be the club that would benefit from it the most because it would erase our main problem : the weakness of our league.
 
That was last year when football returned after lockdown.

I think you are thinking of Project Big Picture which was led by both ourselves & Liverpool
That’s the one. I suppose I proved my point. Big Picture, that was the one. Don’t remember what that was about, apart from it was a power grab, and it got knocked back.
 
Sky are blatantly lying about expecting an announcement so we'll all keep watching their ads, broken every 20 minutes by an update on how Stewart Cink and Lee Bowyer are getting on.
 
We've already seen a proposal to ban transfers between the top clubs, and apparently fear of such mechanisms is the main reason why PSG has not so far joined the initiative.

My understanding is that PSG is not interested because their owner has already invested a lot of money into CL media rights via his BeIN Media Group company.
 
Aren't drafts based on a college system though?

It's totally unrealistic to expect a draft system in football where clubs produce players through their own academy. There would be no incentive to invest in player development.

In the US College sports are enormous, some games can be viewed by as many as 20 million people for a tournament final, and it takes care of development for the large sport franchises. As you point out, that simply won't work in European football where that model of development does not exist.
 
Announcement delayed potentially because they were arrogant enough to not expect this backlash?
 
He first admits that the super league is real but also offers an alternative. It's a money grab, they aren't going to announce a thing, they want the UEFA to make a move and cave once again.

Yeah it's pretty much my opinion as well. UEFA should go back to the drawing board because their swiss championship idea is terrible.
 

I wouldnt now be surprised if secret meetings between the various parties have been going on for months and an agreement simply couldn't be made during them and it reached a stalemate.

The 'rebel clubs' have decidely to press and simply made the first move, publicly. Cant see this ending well at all. There's going to be alot of backtracking and legal ramifications.