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Pretty certain that even if they announce SL, UEFA would work with these clubs and come to a compromise. Maybe instead of 36 teams, they'd have 40 odd teams. Teams that are in top 10 of coefficient rankings get an automatic CL spot. Maybe instead of 4 slots, they'd give 6 slots to Spain, Italy and England, and stuff like that.
 
Tom Cato said:
The public opinion seems to be akin to inviting the mob of Rome down to the docks and have the emperor torch the shipment of grain from Egypt infront of their eyes while giving them the finger.
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It does, so it was probably a good idea of them to leak it!

Now they can release a statement saying something like "we are in talks because we are not happy with FIFA/UEFA/WHOEVER but nothing has been decided and we'd never go against the spirit of the game, despite what you read on Twitter".
 
Gasolin said:
I thought they "refused". There are probably some good reasons. France and Germany may not have the "biggest" clubs, though it's debatable for Bayern, but they are the strongest countries economically. I think it will be interesting.
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I have a hard time believing that they refused, we are probably missing something.
 
Gotta ask again why are City and any club that cheated financially even invited? I think we all know the answer. And I'll just add that UEFA etc have not always been perfect either. They're all greedy as far as i'm concerned. And the game was 'gone' a long time ago. You have idiots paid way to much money purely to waste money and show others on soical media how to be an idiot. I think many footballers, even ex ones would back say....Pogbas suggested wage and say...'goodluck to him and his agent because if they pay it he'd be (or they'd ) worth it'. And that it;'s not greedy when it is. We've heard such things in the past but the games moved on and now players can make extra money on the side so the game is FULL of greed. Believe me. And they do miss the fans. Cause the fans give them and make them money. So for me there is little to invest in this discussion. No one talks about how money is created or the great reset of finance. Again, why would any oil money club be invited? We know they cheat with their money so it seems this don't matter at the foundational level and therefore it's amazing to talk of greed now. Is it just now that people who live in a bubble, know their are poor people living in this developed nation? And other nations that should be ashamed of themselves for what they've done. It's a shame for them and their ego and an insult to people who work harder then most of these fools and struggle because the money system in general is corrupt to the core. But justice for rich people! The game was dead a long time ago. At this level, it becomes a culmination of all that is wrong in and about sport which is ONLY about the worst things in a culture.
 
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mu4c_20le said:
Yes but not from so many politicians. They hold the sway of many people.
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I don't really think so.

It's literally a breakaway league, pissing people off comes as part of it. It's because it's in the 12 teams' interest they're doing it in the first place.
 
Hansa said:
Hopefully people can begin to see the damage that was done to European football when teams from the so-called big leagues were given preference in the Champions League by receiving automatic qualification at the expense of the majority of European countries, brought about after suffering some embarrasing defeats in the qualifying rounds (including our own against Galatasaray in 1993). Making sure the money stayed within an elite group of teams was a horrible idea to begin with. If you give children unlimited access to candy, of course they are going to throw a tantrum if this is somehow taken away from them (in this case due to Covid). "Who wants to see [insert random team outside the big ones]?". Well, I grew up watching Barcelona being beaten home and away by Dundee United, being absolutely thrashed by the Shevchenko-led Dinamo Kiev, and needing penalties to go through after suffering a 3-0 defeat against IFK Gothenburg in Sweden. For me, this was 100% more exciting than watching the umpteenth match between Bayern and Barca.
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Even if I do understand why some clubs want the Superleague, I can totally realte to this. Even long ago I have reduce my time watching football as I knew that I am not really missing anything, as in a week there will be another game between to big sides, while the games against small sides are usually very boring.
 
The projected revenues for this breakaway league maybe forgot to factor in that 60% of football fans became golf fans.

If everyone was on board then the money would be astronomical. The backlash though, surely, is quite damning. At the end of the day it's all about the fans.

Wouldn't be surprised if they back off and claim it was a 'big mistake which is being dealt with internally'
 
predator said:
The projected revenues for this breakaway league maybe forgot to factor in that 60% of football fans became golf fans.

If everyone was on board then the money would be astronomical. The backlash though, surely, is quite damning. At the end of the day it's all about the fans.

Wouldn't be surprised if they back off and claim it was a 'big mistake which is being dealt with internally'
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The majority of people will be on board and the money will be astronomical.
 
Its almost as if some cnut decided to write for athletic. My money on that cnut that keeps posting pictures in his op.
 
el3mel said:
The UEFA announced that all participated clubs will be banned from domestic and European competitions :

https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/new...he-english-football-association-the-premier-/

If you think this is just a play from them to scare clubs out of it, I mean at the end it's really your own assumption and interpretation of such announcement and nothing more.
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Already answered that question multiple times. They just can't ban and it won't stand in the court.

You made the below point and I would call this as an assumption.

You're dreaming if you think it's just an added competition to the list. It's supposed to replace the CL all together because these clubs aren't content with its money.
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MDFC Manager said:
UEFA want to expand the CL to include more clubs, which likely reduces the revenue for the existing big clubs.

UEFA have also completely failed to reign in oil money clubs thanks to their farcical FFP implementation, and this has hugely driven up costs for the non oil big clubs.

The big clubs have been talking of a breakaway continental tournament for a while now, to pressure UEFA into bending to their whims/drop the expansion ideas but UEFA haven't done it, so the big clubs have gone ahead with the breakaway league plans.
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Ty. Sounds like a huge hoax.
 
duffer said:
Seems to me like they leaked something to dip their toe in the waters of public opinion.
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They knew this would happen, but causing a stirr is a good negotiation point for them to show that they are serious about their demands.
 
hobbers said:
I wonder if this leak was pre-planned from the "big six" to test the waters. Or if it was from someone who caught wind of the plans who disagrees and wanted to throw a spanner in.
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If anything it was to throw a spanner in the works of UEFA's plan to burden the big clubs with more games against worse opposition for less money that's being announced tomorrow. They were trying to get concessions last week, but seems like UEFA are ploughing on ahead.
 
Simon Stone on radio 5 saying that there was no announcement from the clubs of a statement at 9.30 and that nobody from those clubs willing to say anything about the plans.
 
Well this was met with a bit of blow back. you know you're not fecking moving when bojo throws his weight about,
 
Andi Latte said:
So many posts on here saying the CL is shite and boring anyways...

Couldn't that just be recency bias due to the fact United don't play a major role in the competition for quite some time now? I can observe it myself, that I am not really interested in CL football anymore as soon as United is out of it/isn't even in it to begin with.

But from a factual point of view, the CL is as exciting as it ever was, maybe even more so. Over the last few years alone, you had fecking Spurs in a Final, Liverpool winning it, Ajax in the Semis etc. That's pretty diverse if you ask me, far from "it's always the same 4 clubs". Sure, not so long ago you had the Real triad but that was also exciting imo, as no one ever managed to defend the CL Title prior to that, let alone win it three times on the trot.

And United don't play a major role due to no ones fault but our own, make no mistake. It's not City's or Chelsea's or oil money's fault that we had no claim to make in England, let alone Europe, for the better part of a decade. The same goes for Liverpool, as well as for Arsenal. Now our collective owners, 'murican investors the lot, want a guaranteed seat at the big boys' table on financial grounds alone. It has nothing to do with the quality of the CL at all, they just want to be in Europe's elite and profit from it, without having to go through the arduous task of actually doing anything on the pitch to deserve it.
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If anything, people stating that the CL is boring are remembering a time when it wasn't 90's - 00's. Go back and look at the group stages and knockout draws then. What a time to be watching football
 
I hate these politicians being involved. They don't give a feck about the fans or football. Sickening hypocrisy.
 
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