Of course there are less young people watching, football traditionally starts with kids being taken to games. How is a working class parent supposed to afford to take 2 kids to each home match when its going to cost half a weeks wages? Or pay for 2 TV subscriptions so they can watch from home?
European Super League
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Of course there are less young people watching, football traditionally starts with kids being taken to games. How is a working class parent supposed to afford to take 2 kids to each home match when its going to cost half a weeks wages? Or pay for 2 TV subscriptions so they can watch from home?
I agree it would be better if the fans could play a bigger part in how the clubs are run, all I'm questioning is how effective it would be.
The SL was just about the biggest PR disaster they could have managed and I think the way it was stopped was well done and clearly a voice from the fans and people involved in football in general clearly disapproved of the idea and the message got through.
What I didn't want is the PL/FA/UEFA expelling the clubs or the players and managers being forced to be confronted by the media when they had no say in what their employers were planning to do.
Although it leaves a bad smell in the way the idea was planned at least everyone didn't get entrenched and the whole football system wasn't torn apart.
I feel the same, our club cannot truly heal with these bastards at the helm. They've got to go.
That is the essence of the sport. 22 men/women, 2 goals and 1 ball. Watching the NBA now and 30 years ago is the same as well.
Nobody says anything about implementing changes and modernising if it makes sense, but the Super League isn't the answer. Young people have now more opportunities and the internet changed a lot, top games alone wont make them tune in. The Super League is not modern, more top games doesn't make it modern.
It's mind-boggling that football has been gatekept via costs that are prohibitive to young people yet the solution is...more gatekeeping behind additional paywalls?
No they are not, and even if they are, that's not the point at all. For city, if those three players fail, no problem, buy another three and that's it. It doesn't work like that for the majority of the clubs. For whatever reason you are in denial about that, so carry on.
4.2 + 4.1 + 4 + 3.2 + 2.8 + 2.3 = $20.5bn without all the other clubs but I don't seriously believe the government will do anything about it, never mind the cost, the legal arguments forever more, they won't want to get involved. Boris just thought it was a good horse to back to become more popular with the disgruntled fans.
Yes they are:
Ruben Dias - €68m transfer fee, €6m salary per year
Joao Cancelo - €65m transfer fee, €4.5m salary per year
Rodri - €62.7m transfer fee, €10.8m salary per year
Total in annualised wages over 3 years + transfer fees: €259.6m
Ronaldo transfer fee + 3 years of wages: €280m
And the point is that risk is mitigated by spreading it out across multiple players at multiple positions. Obviously City have the financial muscle to do this but that's immaterial to the point, which is that signing Ronaldo was fecking stupid.
Exactly. There was never a problem getting young fans interested when they could actually afford to go to games with their mates - and open tickets were available on the day. Get the standing sections open at budget rates and give them priority.
What was the Super League going to do attract kids that just want to play fortnite? Write into the contracts of every player that they must do a dance from the game when they score?
Best thing that came out of this for us is the resignation of one Ed Woodward. 
Waiting for Joel Glazer to do the same. Oh wait - it’s not going to happen.
It was a joke mate.
Removing domestic football from free to air was the real feckup. Its where you build the fans. They should learn lessons from Free to Play gaming. Get people involved for free and THEN monetize from your huge fanbase.
We've all been bamboozled by the door-in-the-face technique.
Oh no, JP Morgan's shares are down. How terrible.
With FIFA, the people you know are in the minority. Try play a match online and see what teams people use. 9/10 times it's going to be one of the 'Super League' teams.
I just realised, the term 'Super League' might actually stick.
I can't help but feel this is just the beginning. Perez and co were testing the waters with this proposal, gauging reactions. They wanted to see what would pass as acceptable and what would not. And now they know.
They'll return with a new doctored proposal before we know it. It'll be a little more "fan-friendly" next time around, that's for sure, but the main goal - a league designed for the football elite to lord over the rest, comprised entirely of the rich and powerful - will remain unchanged.
As long as the Glazers, Perez, Roman, John Henry, Shiek Monsour and the rest of the twelve sit on the top of the football pyramid, the threat will remain. Kick them out asap and give the clubs back to the fans. 50+1 all the way.
They'll return with a new doctored proposal before we know it. It'll be a little more "fan-friendly" next time around, that's for sure, but the main goal - a league designed for the football elite to lord over the rest, comprised entirely of the rich and powerful - will remain unchanged.
As long as the Glazers, Perez, Roman, John Henry, Shiek Monsour and the rest of the twelve sit on the top of the football pyramid, the threat will remain. Kick them out asap and give the clubs back to the fans. 50+1 all the way.
We've joined a European Super League by mistake!
I disagree, tentatively. I think my cynicism tends more towards the 'everyone is incompetent' than 'everyone is a conspirator' angle. Yes, they will still not be happy with the status quo and at some point may attempt to break away again. But not for a little while. They have genuinely underestimated the extent of the backlash and a good number of them will be seriously gun-shy for a while now.
I couldn't agree more, there is no way they could have predicted such an overwhelmingly negative reaction. The PM involving himself and threatening legislative action should they not disolve the idea must have shook them to their core - I was shocked when I heard what the government had planned. But still, they will return with a new proposal unless we, the fans, take control. It can be done.
Do these fecks have no shame what so ever, i mean serously how dumb you have to be to actually buy this drivel.
Firstly to conspire is for two or more people to speak behind the backs of others and that's exactly what's happened. We're talking about money men who only care about their ego. I want to keep my posts simple now I understand many struggle with this (not referring to you) but this was an attempted coup and what I really want to say is never speak on other peoples behalf. Many get away with these types of things because people try to defend them . We cannot relate to these types of people and they do not want to relate to us because they have all the money. People always think they can speak for others but these people are not stupid. They already called you a legacy supporter. They knew they would lose fans. Maybe they didn't know how many....but they didn't care for the ones they would lose. And that should be enough for anyone to not have sympathy for these types of characters who only ever look to impose their will onto others.
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Hitler didn't like the idea, and is a United fan it seems
Ah I was hoping for a version showing Hitler as Perez
And needs to be done. It was great to see the FA mention, thanks to governmental backing, new legislation to refuse work permit for foreign players, and other legal accessories.
I hope we change the ownership model quickly to give the fans more voice, it does not need to be a 50+1 model, it needs to be A model that can give the fans a veto on every single strategic decision of the FC.
You'd have to imagine other clubs / The PL / UEFA will start to put some form of action/legislation in place to prevent this from every happening again.
Atleti and Inter officially out too. Statements released.
They can still make a league with 4 teams, right? Let them! It's like a fantastic group stage and maybe it will bring tons of money.AC Milan also clinging on.
AC Milan also clinging on.
Semi final stages now. Funny, I'd thought we'd go out at this stage.
What a disaster, who can you even root for in the CL now?
PSG?
PSG?
From 2024 the two teams with the highest uefa coefficient will be invited to play which basically means 2 English teams who don’t make it, so basically the top 6 always get in most probably as the better teams from the other three leagues are basically shoe ins.
I actually think this is fair because being one of the better teams in the champions league should count for something.
So basically I hope liverpool
Finish fifth this year.
I actually think this is fair because being one of the better teams in the champions league should count for something.
So basically I hope liverpool
Finish fifth this year
.Madrid and juventus will be the last. Perez and Agnelli will wait for Barcelona and AC to drop out then say nothing of it. No apologies or anything
Still hope UEFA kick Madrid out of CL.
Still hope UEFA kick Madrid out of CL.
Are AC and Juve in financial trouble? I get why the Spanish clubs are clinging on for dear life, as they are in a mess.
Which is a great thing. The less they try to save the situation the more likely it is that they'll be forced out.