Yeah, I don’t love that but at least it’s based on performance in the european competitions. Essentially a reward for performing well and a safeguard against a blip.
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Yeah, I don’t love that but at least it’s based on performance in the european competitions. Essentially a reward for performing well and a safeguard against a blip.
So, what's the current status? Real, Barca, Atletico, and Juve waving the ESL flag while shouting 'this is what football is supposed to be' and 'give TV deal billions please (no really, we're freaking bankrupt)'?
Can't believe Pogba didn't score a single goal or get a single assist in the whole tournament. #PogOut
All we've heard for years is there are too many games and players face burn out - then geniuses come up with a new Champions League which seems to include everyone from United and City to Salford and Altrincham playing each other 25 times then the top 20 played each other in play offs seven or eight times before getting to a knockout stage.
Seriously, how many extra games is it? 20? What a mess
Keeping up the pressure.
On a positive note, Phil Jones went through the entire tournament without making a single mistake...
There should be no safeguards against a blip. If you don’t want the consequences of a blip, don’t blip.
Well that was short lived.
No doubt it will be back again in some guise or other at some point in the future.
No doubt it will be back again in some guise or other at some point in the future.
True. At least there's some vestige of competition, though.
I just don't see how they could make a law to ensure that it would be fan majority-owned. Its a pipe dream. The legal ramifications would drag this idea on to the next generation of fans.
They were reporting in France that UEFA made a proposal for an African Super League with a similar concept, don't know if it was closed too...
Agree 100%. Don't remove the uncertainty of everything. Its geniuinely exciting to see who will finish top4 this season. Thank feck we are pretty much safe, but the next 6 games are huge for 5 or 6 other clubs. If Liverpool knew they'd get in anyway because they won it a couple of years ago we are getting back into the realms of "are they really going to try that hard" - which was the whole problem with ESL in the first place.
There is obviously a lot of BS in there but at least this guy has some balls to do it. Meanwhile what we got from our guys is a bland 2 sentence corporate crap and knowing that Joel is a vice president of ESL, it's disgraceful.
yeah, he just tried to save his club from debt and sold the story well to other clubs. Some people couldn´t say no to money.
In this era of angry mobs, I honestly don't understand how they could plan this entire multi-billion pound endeavour without remotely planning for the occurence of an angry mob of football fans ready to bring this thing down. Us football fans have been doing angry mobs long before social media made them popular again.
Im not sure I have ever even heard any of the Glazers speak
I’ll he honest, I haven’t fully understood the new CL proposal other than a general “it looks shit”. If it significantly reduces the risk of failure to qualify for the big clubs then that pisses me off almost as much as the ESL.
It's better than not addressing fans at all BUT this is a load of shite.
'The past year has been tough for all of us'. Is this guy having a laugh? Him and his cronies were literally just about to make it way worse for the other clubs and their supporters for the next 25 years.
No gush PR should fix this. Sell and feck off and I hope the scousers don't let him off the hook.
La liga teams are still there.
I am very disappointed in Barcelona, I thought they would fight for the leadership with perez. Not let real madrid take the leadership of ESL.
Would be funny seeing laporta and perez fight for leadership of this shambolic plan
Instead they hid in the background.
I am very disappointed in Barcelona, I thought they would fight for the leadership with perez. Not let real madrid take the leadership of ESL.
Would be funny seeing laporta and perez fight for leadership of this shambolic plan
Instead they hid in the background.
Read that FIFA / Infantino are behind the idea in some way. The idea is very similar, 20/24 permanent members and big payouts every year. Not surprised, but it's funny that he could be behind an African version but against the European one.
Sure only last week one of them was talking about setting up a FIFA world league.
But there are consequences already. Players sign 5yr deals on big money which relies on CL revenue.
And technically you are qualifying through performance on the field in prior years which is already how it works.
Question, what happens with Real Madrid now as they havent backed out of the ESL and are scheduled to play Chelsea in the CL semi final. Surely if Madrid dont pull out by friday of the ESL then chelsea should get a bye into the final?
Tough shit. If the need to consistently win football matches is a problem for the owners, then don’t buy football clubs.
Not to mention that every club retaining their place after a “blip” is taking the place of a smaller club who have had an exceptional season. Feck that.
When the dust settles, it'll be interesting what remains the main issue people had with this, and what could have been done differently to garner a different response.
Obviously, those behind it completely messed up from a PR stand-point and went rogue in their announcement - they needed to get major news networks/broadcasters on side from the off.
Had there not been a rigid, glass ceiling for those looking up/glass floor in terms of how far the "elite" clubs could fall, that may have been another thing that would have lead to people being more receptive. Although I expect this was the crux of the issue. The big clubs wanted to create a footballing paradigm that would have seen them requiring to put in minimal effort/expenses in order to be guaranteed a seat at the top of world football.
These owners know the world they bought into is changing fast, and they've probably missed the boat in regards to seeing the optimal return on their investments. If the Glazers could, they would go back to 2017 and sell up.
Obviously, those behind it completely messed up from a PR stand-point and went rogue in their announcement - they needed to get major news networks/broadcasters on side from the off.
Had there not been a rigid, glass ceiling for those looking up/glass floor in terms of how far the "elite" clubs could fall, that may have been another thing that would have lead to people being more receptive. Although I expect this was the crux of the issue. The big clubs wanted to create a footballing paradigm that would have seen them requiring to put in minimal effort/expenses in order to be guaranteed a seat at the top of world football.
These owners know the world they bought into is changing fast, and they've probably missed the boat in regards to seeing the optimal return on their investments. If the Glazers could, they would go back to 2017 and sell up.
Agnelli on why the Super League is still needed:
Football is no longer a game, it’s a business sector and what it needs most is stability.
"On the domestic side as well. In Europe, the most valuable match is no longer the Champions final but the English first division football playoffs to be admitted to the Premier League: 150 million. That isn’t stability.
"We need ironbound economic and financial regulations like those established in the Super League.
“The Super League will go forward regardless. If [UEFA] put forward proposals, we will take them under consideration. We’ve written to the presidents of FIFA and UEFA to begin a conversation”.
So, one of the key reasons is that Spanish and Italian clubs do not like the finances in English football.
Football is no longer a game, it’s a business sector and what it needs most is stability.
"On the domestic side as well. In Europe, the most valuable match is no longer the Champions final but the English first division football playoffs to be admitted to the Premier League: 150 million. That isn’t stability.
"We need ironbound economic and financial regulations like those established in the Super League.
“The Super League will go forward regardless. If [UEFA] put forward proposals, we will take them under consideration. We’ve written to the presidents of FIFA and UEFA to begin a conversation”.
So, one of the key reasons is that Spanish and Italian clubs do not like the finances in English football.
Bruno couldn't have been a better signing even if we dreamt it
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Nothing funny about this he actually has a point. There are less young people following football than twenty years ago. Football is yet to enter digital age. Watching a game is the same as 30 years ago.
Hilarious given most people I know absolutely love taking their local league 2 team to champions league winners on FIFA & Football Manager
Yes and the cost of all three of those players combined is less than that of Ronaldo. That's the point.
The Glazers, it was all ruse to sell some t-shirts
Surely the biggest problem with getting young people interested is the expense associated with watching it on tv and in the ground. Removing the champions league from free to air was stupid, chasing short to gain at the harm of the long term popularity of the game
Fully expect a version of the Hitler meltdown clip in 1-2 days
Hitler didn't like the idea, and is a United fan it seems
Interesting to listen the the Transfer Window podcast. Was recorded on monday night. In hindsight its eye opening to see how ESL had all the leverage and completely and utterly fecked it up.
Feck off scumbag and get out. Where is the video from Joel?
I'm still feeling absolutely disgusted this morning. The club won't feel right until they're gone.
Thank you to all the Chelsea fans that could demonstrate yesterday evening, I hope there is bigger supporter demonstrations to come.
Thank you to all the Chelsea fans that could demonstrate yesterday evening, I hope there is bigger supporter demonstrations to come.