'Playing for their country' means taking part in competitions organised by UEFA and FIFA. Sure, if a national association breaks away from FIFA and creates its own competition, FIFA or any other federation has no power to stop them. But why on Earth would FIFA be legally compelled to let anyone take part in their competitions?
European Super League
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Today I learned that this is my fault for not being born in England, and instead being born in a country that barely has a functional football league. The more you know.
I'm glad you're a voice for the little guys like United and Real Madrid.
Welcome back mate, I’m glad to see that you’re well!
As long as you promise not to kill me and then have sex with my corpse.
I knocked my HD on the head. I still get it on Sky and BT's SD is pretty good, however I already have MUTV and there SD is atrocious.
Not exactly sure what's going on and how this Super League would pan out in reality, but the reactions on here alone are probably worth it 
Also, from a spectacle perspective, what do you think happens when the system is closed? When there's no guarantee of losing your place? The CL works because exiting a competition is a reality. League systems work because relegation is a reality. The threat of relegation and exit means that lower table games are exciting because there's something to play for. What's to play for when you're in the lower half of the Super League? Nothing. What's the motivation to try when there's no consequence of being in the bottom 5-6? There isn't any.
Because legally the player is a footballer from a nation which is part of the org.
Wait, Spurs will play in this super league? 
Can Feyenoord join too then? Seeing as we're equally irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
Can Feyenoord join too then? Seeing as we're equally irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
American sports disagrees.
I am glad that you are trying to learn how to be sarcastic. Keep going!
It's like 2 rich, powerful, arrogant businesses fighting each other, and the common fans are the loser.
The UEFA/FIFA are trying to arm-twist by making saying they won't allow such players in World Cup. That itself is so wrong as well...
The UEFA/FIFA are trying to arm-twist by making saying they won't allow such players in World Cup. That itself is so wrong as well...
This has been going on for years, it's not due to recent events. But to answer your question, these clubs are the ones generating the CL money and they don't want to share it anymore.
Funny how FIFA and the FA are threatening players with expulsion from their national teams.....yeah right. like that will happen it will ruin their own cash cow. Imagine England’s World Cup squad with the players all in the super league? who wins in that situation? It isn’t fifa or the FA
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I'm not very well actually as something seems to be killing me. I think it's the Premier League...if only there was some sort of continent backed alternative on the horizon.
course they willAs opposed to? Being replaced by Newcastle United every year because there is no value in the market? Yes. Every fecking time.
It will be intriguing the first year. And some teams will naturally become bottom half of the 10 teams group stage of the super league. And the top superleague teams will be bored to play them
It will just change the fact that the name of the poor team could be manchester united or real madrid instead of sparta prague
UEFA are due to release their proposals tomorrow?
I don’t think it’s about the individual tv deals. Man Utd must realise that collective bargaining is a big part of why the PL has been successful. The clubs in Spain already have individual deals.
arsenal in the super league
They said the same for the original European football though, nothing came of it
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Ah for feck sake.....
But eligibility is determined by FIFA. Let's say Rashford leaves England, becomes a Spanish citizen and wants to play for Spain in a World Cup.
Legally, he'd be a footballer from a nation that has a football association that is part of FIFA. Yet FIFA wouldn't allow him to play because he played for England in competitive games already and thus he's ineligible.
It would be a mine field. I'm sure there is a car lawyer on here that can explain to us just how bloody difficult it would be to navigate? Surely? someone?
Right! People are forgetting the main motivator in all of the current leagues... Money! Teams want to earn promotion into the PL and earn a CL spot because of money. Everything else is secondary.
That’s essentially the franchise fee, a one time payment made by JPMorgan or whoever is bank rolling the league to buy the participation of those clubs. I was speaking more about how the revenue sharing would go once the league broadcast rights are determined.
It is easier to get past one than two. The more mega-rich clubs you include, the far harder it will be to overcome them. Eventually, it will take its toll.
I know you mentioned Newcastle's potential takeover, but they haven't been taken over yet. Also, building them up to the standard of winning the PL would take years. (It took five seasons, I think, for City after the Mansour takeover. But they were also owned by the other rich guy from 2006.) Both PSG and City are already there.
Chelsea are rich, as well, but nowhere near the level of City and PSG. Plus they have stopped spending so much in recent years.
But they won't be able to. Yes, they can be more strict over the club's wage payments, but they would have absolutely no say over a player getting massive advertising arrangements from other interests of their owners.
Global TV revenue will be huge for this. As much as we love our own Leauge, the appeal for fans especially in China, US, India and pretty much the remainder of Asia to watch the biggest teams in the world play each other week in week out is a massive global market to exploit. Jus looking at some statistics, apprarantly the PL draws in billions of views in China alone each season.
I abosolutly hate this idea though. Not sure I want to see Leicester City winning the PL every season.
I abosolutly hate this idea though. Not sure I want to see Leicester City winning the PL every season.
To be fair though, there has never been such a high profile collective reason to fight such rules before. Like I said before, I have no doubt that the clubs are confident that they have solid legal ground to eat their cake and have it too.
It's really the only way Arsenal are getting back into the CL, or something very like it. I'm all for it.
Good point. Either way, I am finding it hard even watching the game right now. Takes the soul out of football for me.
Money, money, money.
Next they'll move our "home" games abroad, have you seen the size of some of those American College Stadiums - why redevelop Old Trafford, the Brits can just stream the games at 2am in the morning.
Next they'll move our "home" games abroad, have you seen the size of some of those American College Stadiums - why redevelop Old Trafford, the Brits can just stream the games at 2am in the morning.
I know the rules. Im saying it will not stand up in court. They will lose the case in my opinion.
It will be very interesting to see who folds first now that the PL has come out and said teams may be expelled. I would imagine the PL will as it would lose all interest from audiences abroad without the top 6 clubs.
More power to you then. I respect your ideological stance but I am all for this.
The whole point of investing in European sport is to maximize revenue and entertainment across different time zones.
Putting it in competition with American sports tv time would be a dumb move.
Yeah you're going to have to elaborate on this mate.
This is so awful. The "top 4 race" for CL spots will be gone, only a winner and nothing else in the PL. Stop this. I will start watch the championship instead.
Really don't want this.
The interesting part is these stadiums in America are paid for with tax dollars. No way American owners will want to pay billions of their own money to make a new stadium. I live in Las Vegas and the Raiders stadium was built using $750 million in tax dollars.