European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?


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However much the teams are making City's owners will always be richer.

But yeah I'd imagine the spending framework will mean every team has a set budget roughly the same.

Why it kind of baffles me a little why we're so behind this. We can (in theory) compete with spending with everyone in the world bar 2/3 clubs...why are we taking that competitive advantage away? Well I know why, cos they don't care so long as the bank balance grows... But yeah, they're basically allowing clubs to catch up to us in terms of finances.
 
Really good interviews from both Milner and Bamford there. Respect to both.
 
“Manchester City don’t want this”

Apparently they do Gary.
Quite possibly the funniest thing I’ve read all day. The ‘cartel’ of Manchester United and Arsenal forcing poor auld City and Chelsea into the evil super league!
 
It's very optimistic of Neville to think players will come out against it.

It's one thing for a player near the end like Milner to come out and condemn it but it's a lot different for a younger player to give up potentially tens of millions in wages.
 
That Sky statement will bite them in the arse in the future if this thing sticks. No chance they won’t want to be involved if it goes ahead.
 
Carragher mentioning the PL breakaway and Sky taking football away from terrestrial TV. Sky won't like that.
 
We’ve got to do the same as Liverpool today and have Ole and Maguire to strongly condemn it. Liverpool fans should be proud of their captain and manager today.

I’ll be devastated if Ole gives a vanilla half arsed reply like Tuchel.
 
We need all the players speak out against it.

Aye, the players reacting negatively is ultimately the only way to prevent this fiasco from going ahead. I expect a large number will air their grievances over the next few days. The threat of losing out on domestic and international football by participating in the ESL won't sit well with them.
 
I’m sure this has been raised by some already, but what ramifications would the ESL have on the youth teams?
Depends if the SL is launched alonsgside other competitions like it was desired at least from I gathered. More games = more competition, more rotation, wider squads, more academy debuts and gametime in general for whoever is ready to feature.

Longterm teams could get more players on loan or try to buy cheap but ready players to fill the squad holes, depends on the structure and budget..

In case this would only substitute one of European or in extreme case league comeptitions (which will never happen) it would be probably worse because teams would fight for every game and the bonuses from it if it has as much money as presented.

We will see what happens, still think this might be launched but as a nondirect competition to any of the leagues, as say some sort of preseason & midseason tournament with the final in May with less money than mentioned and will fall from grace soon after.
 
I'm guessing Sky have already tried to bid for the rights and lost, surely they'd not be going in this hard on it if they had a chance of one day gaining the rights.
 
We’ve got to do the same as Liverpool today and have Ole and Maguire to strongly condemn it. Liverpool fans should be proud of their captain and manager today.

I’ll be devastated if Ole gives a vanilla half arsed reply like Tuchel.
Same here. They all need to unite though. Managers should be on a call this week discussing what they can do to stop this. Same with players. Carragher is right, it can only be stopped if everyone in football comes together.
 
I'm guessing Sky have already tried to bid for the rights and lost, surely they'd not be going in this hard on it if they had a chance of one day gaining the rights.
Most probably. Hope Amazon blow them out the water and they’re left showing the Johnsons Paint Trophy to 8 viewers.
 
We’ve got to do the same as Liverpool today and have Ole and Maguire to strongly condemn it. Liverpool fans should be proud of their captain and manager today.

I’ll be devastated if Ole gives a vanilla half arsed reply like Tuchel.

I hope Ole speaks out about it. He couldn't stop harping on about the integrity of the club when he took charge.
 
From the BBC

Liverpool midfielder James Milner talking to Sky Sports: "You have to put in two good halves ands we didn't do that. In the second half we looked tired, probably the Madrid game took a lot out of us.

"For us we are trying to coventrate on the game. There is a lot going on but we have to be professional. We heard first when it broke yesterday.

What is your view of the European Super League? "Same as everyone there is a lot of questions. I can only say my view, I don't like it and hopefully it doesn't happen. I can imagine what has been said about it and I probably agree with a lot of it."

Shame Milner's 35, Liverpool will probably just release him or sell him to Leeds for low fee.

I honestly think that's the last hope now, players and managers just disown this idea and walk out and clubs left with just youth teams and mercenary players. So far the noises are reasonably encouraging but probably will change once another 50-100k is added in next contract negotiation.
 
Quite possibly the funniest thing I’ve read all day. The ‘cartel’ of Manchester United and Arsenal forcing poor auld City and Chelsea into the evil super league!


To be fair Roman's never looked at Chelsea as a money-making enterprise the way Agnelli, FSG, and the Glazers have at their respective clubs. It's cowardice that we aren't standing up to it but I find it entirely believable that we were reluctant.
 
Going strictly off the amount of warning points he has, a week. Don't know if the mods will make it permanent though as they were all given in the last 24 hours or so, so it's not like a gradual thing.
Fair enough mate.
 
Aye, the players reacting negatively is ultimately the only way to prevent this fiasco from going ahead. I expect a large number will air their grievances over the next few days. The threat of losing out on domestic and international football by participating in the ESL won't sit well with them.
Exactly. And I understand why they've been quiet today because it sounds like they're confused and caught off guard. Hopefully later this week we see a united front.
 
I mean, if you banned all those clubs players' from the world cup or euros, most squads would be so much weaker, and the tournament would be shite i suspect

Aside from everything else, I actually don’t think this would be true. The great thing about football tournaments is they become these huge self contained carnivals, where entire narratives and loyalties can be forged in a couple of weeks... and when you’re there, the players almost don’t really matter...If all the super league players were kicked out, I’m entirely confident there’s be a huge swell of camaraderie for their replacements (just look how reaction differs to England teams who aren’t expected to do much vs ones who are - not to mention that a fair proportion of travelling fans are supporters of these “lesser clubs” who consider England their version of glory hunting) ... sure you’d lose some interest globally, but the actual vibe would be fantastic
 
Genuine european cup history too.

As I said this morning, Nottingham Forest have more European Cups than Chelsea, Man City, Spurs and Arsenal combined.

'European super league' my backside.
Of course mate.
 
We’ve got to do the same as Liverpool today and have Ole and Maguire to strongly condemn it. Liverpool fans should be proud of their captain and manager today.

I’ll be devastated if Ole gives a vanilla half arsed reply like Tuchel.
Optics-wise, it’s not a good look to not condemn it when Sir Alex already has. So I hope he knows what to do.