"They are just maximising the clubs revenue potential" by essentially ending the competition our players literally died fighting for.
League rules prohibit clubs from entering non-sanctioned tournaments, so hopefully the so called big 6 will not longer be a part of the league going forward.
They didn't die to play in Europe, they died because the football league made them rush back from Europe or they'd face an automatic loss because the FL were insecure about English teams playing in another competition.
I wish people wouldn't use their memory in a way that misrepresents what really happened.
As supposed to getting fecked over right now? YesYeah, because holding out for a few dollars today only to get completely fecked over a couple of years down the line is such a great idea.
so we are siding with FIFA, UEFA, Boris Johnson and Piers Morgan? Are we the baddies?
I think this is beyond naive. The reality is those 6 clubs hold all the cards and have for a long time which has only continued to grow. UEFA and the FA have done nothing to stop it while they were getting a slice. Do you seriously believe Everton or Leicester will be able to grow to the size they can fill that gap? The Premier League is a great product because of the top teams in it.
I must have missed the games this season where Ole rested players on Saturday...what with us playing a game every single midweek up until now.The selfish 6 cannot have this superleage and remain in the EPL, that is something that cannot happen, for the reasons already listed in this thread. Their team selections in midweek would be favoured towards a more lucrative competion, whilst resting players in the EPL where they are not bothered where they finish. This would ruin the integrity and fair play of the league.
Will be interesting to see how this pans out.
I won’t pay to watch this super league. If there is enough of us who won’t, it really won’t be lucrative for long.
Imagine clubs come begging FA to come back in the PL, get a no and have the choice between an unpopular ESL, which the players also shun because of repercussions for national team selection, and starting back in the National League. If we’re ever getting rid of the Glazers and getting fan power back this could be how. Only silver lining i see atm...
Not the same because league performance becomes irrelevant if we're in the ESL every year anyway, that becomes the main goal.I must have missed the games this season where Ole rested players on Saturday...what with us playing a game every single midweek up until now.
No because it has far more variables in it as mentioned.
This doesn't.
Because this season there was still the possibility and opportunity to qualify for the champions league via the premier league. Once that has been removed, where is the motivation to be competitive in the premier league. It's not difficult to understandI must have missed the games this season where Ole rested players on Saturday...what with us playing a game every single midweek up until now.
Not that it matters, but who do you think knew about this at the clubs besides the owners?
I'm sure the Glazers didn't come up with this and didn't consult anyone. Same with Kroenke and Abramovich. Why was Lampard sacked? Nothing that happens in the league or Europe really matters because Chelsea planned to leave. Wouldn't this be less detestable to Chelsea fans if they at least had a club legend at the helm?
Will any manager speak out against this behind closed doors? I don't expect any of them to say a word in public because they'll be out on their ear quick as spit if they do.
Not the same because league performance becomes irrelevant if we're in the ESL every year anyway, that becomes the main goal.
Leicester just won the League a few seasons ago despite the gaps but it would be irrelevant under this system. They could finish above Spurs and Arsenal 10 seasons in a row and it would be those two that get the games against Barcalona and Juventus every season. How can that possibly be fair? They are creating a rigged competition that no one else can compete with and these 12 become the only relevant teams in football. It kills all other leagues and teams not involved. It is just awful.Aren't United getting sponsorships which Leicester can only dream of? Isn't Barca and Real already funded by state ? Doesn't Chelsea and City has unlimited pool of money ? The damage is already done. The small clubs aren't catching up the oil clubs anyway unless they are state funded. Just see this as an additional sponsorship which clubs are getting because of their huge fanbase.
A sponsor doesn’t pay 100m a seasonIt's not 300m a season. Its one time.payment of 300m with 100m yearly payments. Again, isn't it just like another sponsor? They are just maximizing the club's revenue potential.
The PL will stay like the same way they are doing it now. It will still be having the same broadcasting rights which guarantees the money to small clubs, isn't it ?
Have we played in any competitions where the result doesn’t matter? I must have missed that tooI must have missed the games this season where Ole rested players on Saturday...what with us playing a game every single midweek up until now.
I don't think we'll be in the PL for much longer so I'm not really sure it will be an issue. I think we'll be voted out.it's not irrelevant if teams want to win the league, which of course they're still going to want to do.
There are ways to address any problems without resorting to something as soul-destroying at this.
Plus the open to new joiners thing is also incredibly elitist. No way Leicester would've been allowed in if this was back in 2015/16 and I don't even think they'd want to join. What right do these clubs have to act like they deserve a closed competition? It stinks.
Just told him that, he is digesting the info slowlyHave we played in any competitions where the result doesn’t matter? I must have missed that too
What? Ole didn’t rest players against Sociedad at home ffs. Oddly enough top players want to win every fecking game regardless of if the achievement of top 4 is at stake. The sodding hypocrisy of people banging on about greed and then using the money finishing 4th brings as some brilliant bastion shining light of sporting integrity is astounding.Because this season there was still the possibility and opportunity to qualify for the champions league via the premier league. Once that has been removed, where is the motivation to be competitive in the premier league. It's not difficult to understand
Apart from Bayern & PSG, which club offers pay at the same level as some of the 12?This is sure, the players can become free agent and decide where to play
the contracts automatically terminates when the clubs leaves
Just watched Neville's podcast, sums it up beautifully. If the ESL were to be a success it would be the status quo for the next 20 years if not longer. Honestly if I were the FA I would be saying to all the clubs, you wanna go go, but you wont be playing in our league or cups. I'm a huge Levy fan but this is just ALL feckING WRONG.
you cannot have any franchise in football where the same 15 clubs are guaranteed to stay in there no matter how shite they are. Would be a dream scenario for those clubs and ownersI dont like what i see of the proposals either, but there are two things to consider:
1. we havent actually seen the proposals in detail yet
2. the current setup is so broken, is a watered down ESL really worse than what we have had over the last few years?
The selfish 6 cannot have this superleage and remain in the EPL, that is something that cannot happen, for the reasons already listed in this thread. Their team selections in midweek would be favoured towards a more lucrative competion, whilst resting players in the EPL where they are not bothered where they finish. This would ruin the integrity and fair play of the league.
Sociedad home. Why did Burnley matter at the weekend? We’re home and hosed already for the great top 4 achievement. Leeds just beat City - how is that possible? They had nothing to play for. Amazed their players even bothered to turn up.Have we played in any competitions where the result doesn’t matter? I must have missed that too
Sadly though the whole point of this super league is these rich arseholes want a garunteed place, I think it’s the whole point for them.I'm voting no on the poll based on the current format proposed.
I'm not 100% against a "super league" but as it as right now, it's a terrible idea.
The competition should involve clubs who are there on merit and finances. Moreover, nobody should be guaranteed a place.
Make it happen. I don't care about all these outrages and crying from UEFA, PL, Sky etc who are crying because they see loss in revenue and hiding behind fake morality and tradition.
As for fans as a whole, almost every new thing whether they'd turn out good or bad have usually always been met with outrage. If this SL works out people will be on board.
I don't think we'll be in the PL for much longer so I'm not really sure it will be an issue. I think we'll be voted out.
It has but we did put a strong line up in the league when facing a top opposition. That is gone.To be fair that's already been happening for years with the CL.
Multiply it by 100 when the results of the League have absolutely no bearing. At least when teams had to finish top 4 there was something to fight for. There will be no benefit for Spurs to finish 3rd or 13th. They'll still get their games with Madrid the next season, that is not the case right now.To be fair that's already been happening for years with the CL.
We will put everything on the table to prevent this from happening - Dowden
Oliver Dowden, Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport, said the UK Government will be "reviewing everything the Government does" to support the so-called big six football clubs who have decided to join the European Super League.
Making a statement on the matter in the Commons, he said he has spoken to the football authorities, adding: "My message for them was clear: they have our full backing.
"But, be in no doubt, if they can't act we will. We will put everything on the table to prevent this from happening. We are examining every option from governance reform to competition law and mechanisms that allow football to take place.
"Put simply, we will be reviewing everything the Government does to support these clubs to play. I have discussed these options with the Prime Minister this morning and we are working at pace across Government and with football authorities."
