Not saying its better. I really don't think it matters that much either way this goes. Champions League is pretty much already a closed up shop and UEFA/The Clubs is throwing the toys out of the pram because they are set to lose a lot of money.
European Super League
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Not saying its better. I really don't think it matters that much either way this goes. Champions League is pretty much already a closed up shop and UEFA/The Clubs is throwing the toys out of the pram because they are set to lose a lot of money.
Legacy Fans Matter.
Who is with me?
Who is with me?
Do you think these 12 clubs are the good guys?
Honestly all the 12 clubs should be threatened to have deducted tons of points if they don't withdraw.
Go on strike?
You'd assume the players will want nothing to do with this super league if it means international football is no longer an option for them.
Bayern stay in UEFA, no chance they join ESL then. Great!
Woodward being Woodward, smarmy little money obsessed worm.
Not sure I understand the question.
The reason why the draft works is because of the colleges as you say, and that players are amateurs until declaring for the draft. How would that even work in football? Players are professionals and under contract from the age of 16 in most cases.
The american leagues also have a cap system in place to make it more competitive. Are they considering that in the new league? Will we see free agency, trades and such?
I both enjoy and follow american sports, but the more I think about it, the more I hate the concept of this super league. Just kill it dead.
Where is the money for the ESL coming from? I read that it's around 4bn that will be shared by the 15 founding members yearly
Woodward being called out by UEFA. Excellent. Build a fecking bonfire
Neil Ashton has got his work cut out
Neil Ashton has got his work cut out
Ceferin: "I have seen many things in my life. I was a criminal lawyer. I have never seen people like that. EW called me on Thursday to say he was very satisfied and supported the proposals. He had already signed something else. Agnelli is the biggest disappointment of all."
Leicester on course for the League + FA Cup double if this keeps moving forward at this pace.
Yeah oil money came along and it got harder and harder. Then the oil clubs like my own joined the cartel of stepping on the little guys and it became 5 and Spurs (somehow). 6 into 4 doesn't go so more changes to keep the greedy in power. Its kinda sad. Don't get me wrong Uefa and Fifa are rotten to the core and need serious reform or binning off but turns out so are our own clubs. When all this is over I can see Bayern being the big winners.
Huge TV/streaming deals
They are better than Uefa
Is that enough?
They should threaten them with immediate and permanent expulsion if they participate in this super league. Combined with access to international football also getting removed, the clubs involved may have a rethink.
If you have a guranteed spot and income then you don't need to invest to keep the team strong. More money for the owners, less expense. That is what this is about, it is nothing to do with getting one over on UEFA or taking football back. It is rich people getting richer for less investment.
If they get away with this, you are kidding yourself if you think they won't do more. Games abroad, clubs moving countries or even cities. These yanks come from franchise bull shit where they move teams without a care in the world. Once the "legacy fans"
are forgotten what's stopping them.If this goes forward it would probably be the end of country cups like the FA Cup, Copa Del Rey, etc... If these teams are committing to 18+ matches in the ESL (10 teams in division and home and away), then room for other cups is sparse.
There is an easy solution and maybe this is just about negotiating a revamped Champions League. The CL expands to 48 clubs and then it is easier for the bigger clubs to be in every year. The group play is expanded to 8 teams giving everyone 14 matches. Countries would have to rethink their own cups and such to limit # matches.
The EPL is so competitive now that some big clubs could miss out in the CL for many continuous years. On the other hand, Real M, Bayern, Barca really never worry about not being in the CL.
With 48 clubs the big 4 leagues, EPL, La Liga, Seria A and Bund., could have 8 entries each year with the remaining 16 spots for the smaller leagues. Of course, they would really have to change the name from "Champions League."
There is an easy solution and maybe this is just about negotiating a revamped Champions League. The CL expands to 48 clubs and then it is easier for the bigger clubs to be in every year. The group play is expanded to 8 teams giving everyone 14 matches. Countries would have to rethink their own cups and such to limit # matches.
The EPL is so competitive now that some big clubs could miss out in the CL for many continuous years. On the other hand, Real M, Bayern, Barca really never worry about not being in the CL.
With 48 clubs the big 4 leagues, EPL, La Liga, Seria A and Bund., could have 8 entries each year with the remaining 16 spots for the smaller leagues. Of course, they would really have to change the name from "Champions League."
Yea. Brilliant UEFA and FIFA acting like a monopoly to ensure their corruption continues. What lads they are. Threatening players with their futures.
UEFA & FIFA know how to stop the ESL, whether they have the balls or legality to do it is the question. Or can they be bought off too with a sweetener from the ESL?
The new CL sounds dreadful as well, there aren't any winners here.
Impressed with the German clubs. Not having Bayern onboard is surely a massive blow to the Super League?
They're trying to feck over every single team not invited to this club and ruin their own domestic leagues and all the teams under them in those pyramids. They are absolutely not the good guys.
I’m talking about the domestic league. Why spend big for the chance of winning the PL when you can languish in mid-table with guaranteed megabucks rolling in from the SL?
I was wondering that myself
No, both of the sides are greedy bastards that want more money to broadcast a pretty much closed-up shop. This scenario is almost the same either way it goes.
I'm largely indifferent to what happens because I think football has been fecked by finances for a very very long time and I don't think a Super League changes things to the extremes that some like to believe due to the media coverage.
Maybe they also care about their fans and the reaction they would get.
I don't necessarily agree with that having read everything, but it is shady yes. Any more shady than Uefa no
Parasite just like the owners bled the club dry and destroying our heritage
You can't honestly believe that players will walk out?
You can't erase the memories of those who lived through it. But you can change the perceptions of the future generations. If the records consistently say that United never won the treble, in time that will be the accepted fact.
History is whatever is written in the official record books.
Plot twists are supposed to catch you off guard.
I'm disgusted
#Baymain
So there is a risk that we are moved to Florida and are rebranded as Tampa Bay Mancunians?
The 8% are probably the owners and directors of 12 'founding' teams