European Super League
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Probably right, I just still a bit too attached to the club to see them being expelled all together.
The most disheartening thing is we are not only involved, we are a primary driving force.
Worth noting that Ceferin is godfather to Agnelli's daughter.
The ban from international football is a clear material change to contracts.
I suspect the likes of Raiola already have their legal teams on it.
Wait, is this a belated April Fools joke?
With all the extra money the ESL clubs will either have two “1st teams” to play both domestic competitions and ESL games.
Or an team A team and B team. That’s if UEFA allows this to go forward.
Or an team A team and B team. That’s if UEFA allows this to go forward.
What, you think we live in a binary world where there's always good guys and bad guys? Or that UEFA's awfulness means anyone opposing them are automatically correspondingly better? No matter how bad you think UEFA is, it doesn't make the ESL any better.
I have supported United my entire life, like my Mother before me, gone to more games than I can count, they are one of the most important things to me, and would be delighted to see us relegated out of the Football League over this. That is how awful this decision is and how far removed from the club I've grown up following we have become.
I really want this to happen.
If a club is preventing a player from representing their country, would that be grounds for cancellation?
He is wrong though. We are essentially talking about an NFL type of structure, in that structure the quality of the product is what drives revenues and these owners are in it for money. So like with the NFL, they will invest financially in order to have the most lucrative venues and the most entertaining product. This isn't a lazy/dumb money grab but the ulimate sophisticated money grab, the NFL being the reference and owners do everything to make sure that TV are paying for it and people watching it.
We have burnt our bridges with UEFA, reckon we deserve to be booted out Europa for just trying to shit on with them. PSG will be crowned champions of Europe by default 
Legacy fan and proud.
Aye, it's a devastating prospect for us, the fans, but the FA have to do what's necessary. I hope they do it.
So all players participating in the ESL will be banned from WC and Euros. Will be interesting to see what happens. Surely most player's don't want this shite.
We have burnt our bridges with UEFA, reckon we deserve to be booted out Europa for just trying to shit on with them. PSG will be crowned champions of Europe by default
I think there's a really good chance we won't play or games against Roma now. They'll go through with a bye.
No I don't, I think both sides are driven by greed. So you could turn your argument around. Do you think UEFA is any better? It's equally shit and still a closed-up shop no matter how you twist things. It just boils down to media rights.
Woodward is a fecking cretin.
It's not the club it is is UEFA ban the players and FIFA.
Somewhat sticks in the throat to hear UEFA and FIFA trying to take the moral high ground on greed
Good luck enforcing that.
Could be. Need to see a contract
I know everyone's terribly excited about this banning business but National Teams don't need UEFA's blessing to compete in a World Cup or Euro Cup, they can simply create one that isn't affiliated to them.
I hope all fans of the 12 founding clubs bring their Vuvuzelas once the stadiums can be filled again. Wouldn't it be great if Amazon forked out a couple billion dollars for streaming rights and all you hear is bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz?
As I say, godfather to Agnelli's daughter. The sheer drama of all this is remarkable.
I hope Neville and Rio do not turn around, even if it costs them their jobs.Ahhh so we’ll be expecting them to change their tune very quickly if they get sufficient rights
And where will Pogba et al. go? PSG and Bayern can only afford so many players. Unless they're willing to take a massive pay cut...
If supporting a greedy shit organization like UEFA is knowing what´s what then yes.
It has nothing to do with that, the German clubs know that the fans who hold the major vote would never support this shit.
This is not about heroism - whether UEFA/FIFA stand up to this clubs because they want to protect the integrity of the game or because it is in their own self interest to do so, I don't much care. I hope that they take a stand, though.
If they are prevented from ever again being selected for their countries in international competition (while clubs like Bayern, PSG, Porto, Ajax, Dortmund, Valencia, Roma etc remain open as options for them), yes, they might.
The players are in a bad position here. I wonder if they have grounds to break their contracts if it comes down to having to forego international football if they play for their teams in the SL. It seems like a major enough change from the conditions and circumstances under which they signed their contracts.
It's quite entertaining to witness these powerful people have a go at eachother.Talk about hyperbole
Quote from Ceferin, uefa president. Apparently he is Agnelli’s daughter’s godfather!
Absolutely putrid from top to bottom. I’m an American and have supported the club feverishly for 20 years, so I can’t even imagine the disgust match-going fans and locals feel about this. Truly a defining moment in football history and for the club - regardless it it goes though or not.
There’s no going back from this.
There’s no going back from this.
But they're been banned through the actions of the club, which they have no control over.
Will anyone simply focus more time on a second sport? For me it'd be F1 and my local non league football side
No question mark in your post so you say this as fact but at this time it seems to be back and forth from could be banned to will be banned.
Have UEFA & FIFA said definitively?
People in this thread saying football is already corrupt, so let's go for this Soccah Super League reminds of people voting for Trump or Brexit with the argument that it's poor already, so how bad can it get?
The answer is that it can always, always get worse. 2020 should have taught people the lesson but apparently not.
Based on some of the whataboutism going on here, short of politicians using this as a chance to boost their ratings by passing reforms, I cannot see how this will be stopped.
Which is the end of football as far as we know it.
The answer is that it can always, always get worse. 2020 should have taught people the lesson but apparently not.
Based on some of the whataboutism going on here, short of politicians using this as a chance to boost their ratings by passing reforms, I cannot see how this will be stopped.
Which is the end of football as far as we know it.
This will only be a good thing in Glazers eyes. Players get injured while playing for their National Teams and they play too many games. So this will make Glazers happy. They only care about the chances of making more money - nothing else matters.