Well, yeah, they should. I don't think this is over yet, there's more to come and in the end it will all be fine. Football isn't going to go away and it isn't going to be ruined, it's sensationalism at its finest.
European Super League
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The backlash is only just beginning, you might want to remember that these traitors to the game decided to release the news late at night on a Sunday evening. Most players and managers are going to think carefully about their responses before sharing. As for the fans, currently we have the massive majority coming out saying this is appalling and a betrayal of the game. You can keep claiming the majority will fall in line as much as you want, but you have absolutely nothing to back that up other than your own opinion.
Because frankly, you don't see it enough. The fact that Utd has only come up against Ronaldo about three times since he left is poor for the spectacle. Likewise, we have not met some of the elite talents in football enough. Finding a way to bring the elite talent in the game into a direct head to head competition is certainly interesting, even if the methods are not.
Sure that is fine but it doesn't mean you should talk more about them than the people trying to bring this to fruition. This is horrible on every level forget about blaming organisations if they were the ones that offered this we should be shouting at them but they are not.
Its not whataboutery, its trying to define what we are trying to save. CL qualification is already a closed shop in England, the super rich are already dominating each top league. The CL reform already includes clauses to include top clubs who dont qualify.
Personally, ive grown to hate the idea of European football and really think it should be scrapped so this development over a CL reform doesnt hit as hard. I cant see whats so soverign as City run away with their 4th title in 5 years. Every now and then a club will becone the best in Europe to wrestle a title away but that cycle is so short that itll barely register. As we are, if City doesnt end up with 8 titles every 10 years then itll be a miracle.
This 3.5 billion payout. Is that across all the teams or EACH? Also is it across a set period of time? The wording makes it hard to tell.
Man I'm so hurt by this. Like everyone else I was gutted when we didn't make the UCL and collapsed after Sir Alex left, but I always believed that one day we would be back. That we would do it properly. I'm not the biggest fan of Ole (as manager) but its been amazing to see us slowly climbing back up, seeing genuine progress with a team full of young stars. Now all of that just seems so pointless - no fight to get to the top. The idea of having to play play-off US style games in international venues genuinely makes me want to throw up.
edit: and I know UEFA's handling of FFP has been a joke and we need alternatives but this.. this just seems so off.
edit: and I know UEFA's handling of FFP has been a joke and we need alternatives but this.. this just seems so off.
I wonder if Celtic and Rangers would be all over this?
Wish someone threw a shoe at him.
Have I said anywhere that it's a fact?
Posting my thoughts is obviously my opinion. Doesn't that go without saying...
Yet its the most popular sport in the world despite these apparent shortcomings with a model used the world over.
I guess it's for all the teams as a whole.
Up to 350 million each.
Sounds boring as feck to me. My team hasn't had a proper game against Real since 1998, and we were supposed to play them in the CL semi's this year. That was truly exciting, getting to watch something that hadn't happened for so long. If we play them a couple of times every year regardless, so fecking what.
Does anyone else suspect this announcement is to force UEFA's hand into introducing some horrible new champions league that guarantees these clubs automatic entry and x amount of games each season which will be presented to the public as some kind of great solution.
You are talking out of your hole. The major fan clubs of each big team have come out and said they are 100% dead against it. The internet is awash with negativity and is opposed to it. You can't say it's just your opinion when you tried to say that 80% of all football fans are for it ffs
. You're using numbers that don't exist to support your obviously weak argument.This resembles some pre season tournament taking place in America.
The Wummy One talking the most sense as is often the case.
I see people saying football is already corrupt, yes and water is wet, that's not the point, because you're covered in shit it doesn't mean getting a diarrhoea bukkake is ok.
But that's what makes it special? You long to play the big teams, those rare occasions, if you had your favourite meal every night guess what it wouldn't be your favourite after awhile. Variety is good, it's needed for most people. We'd see us playing big european teams a lot more if we'd actually been in the CL more since Fergie left, we've barely been in it, rightfully so, because we've been crap.
I think the average non top 6 football fan barely cares about the big clubs at all. Even the big CL games only really hold decent novelty value once you accept your club will probably never have a chance to be a part of it.
I somewhat doubt the clubs that have currently rejected it, rejected purely on the spirit of the game and more that theres an ulterior motive involved. I think this Super League is supposed to have some form of FFP spend cap so no wonder PSG don’t want any part of it.
Maybe the likes of Porto want a bigger cut of the Super League pie than originally offered? Undoubtedly that 12 will be the ones who’ll get the biggest share.
Maybe the likes of Porto want a bigger cut of the Super League pie than originally offered? Undoubtedly that 12 will be the ones who’ll get the biggest share.
No they haven'tYou are talking out of your hole. The major fan clubs of each big team have come out and said they are 100% dead against it. The internet is awash with negativity and is opposed to it. You can't say it's just your opinion when you tried to say that 80% of all football fans are for it ffs
The most engaged have. Not the majority.
Me too, I'm gutted that we're part of this, it's s disgrace.
Fair enough, I think many fans would quickly drop this line of thought if it actually happens. Games against Madrid will always be massive.
I just feel we should learn an valuable lesson and that is some people who are a certain level of rich, parasite on society. We talk about greed, this has gone on a very long time. But these people with 'big ideas' and so much money that they try to sell the idea to people who know better because those people understand the value of money. I think these people as mentally ill (the ones who have such greed that they would do something like this rather then settle just for being merely rich enough for 1000000s of lifetimes).. To parasite on a game and for what reason? They talk crap. Constantly. To push their agendas. No one needs this amount of money. But they would push their own mother off a cliff just to make an extra fiver. They're losers but you'll see once the financial markets crash if they keep pushing covid, you'll see the people with money don't actually care. You don't have that kind of money, by being nice. It's only value is to corrupt morals of those who don't have money with the promise of making money. That's it. So these people don't care but we knew that. However, at a time when people were happy for the sport to be back.....it seems you've not been missed.
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It isn't worth losing the shoe that you throw at this cretin
Have I said anywhere that it's a fact?
You said: "Of course, 80% is an arbitrary number but the majority of football fans will watch and pay for this."
You might not have meant it that way, but you did indeed state it as if it was a fact.
Don’t see how we could stay in the prem too and still have champions league qualification places etc so we’ll have to wait and see about that
No one cares about Rangers and Newcastle outside of their own fans. You are being completely daft if you think that Rangers vs Newcastle is bringing you money. It''s a worse proposition than PSG vs OM which doesn't generate anything close to what Liverpool vs United would.
Finally someone puts this into words.
I'm surprised they have not been invited. Surely bigger than Spurs?
That's what competition is!!! No one club has a god given right to play Real Madrid twice a year ffs. How pathetic are grown men that they feel this fecking entitled. It's embarrasing as feck
Oh I am sure they will like nothing more to have the final in America or Dubai.
This is getting ridiculous
The lad chose to opt for sportwashed blood money.
Do you watch the CL if your team isn't in it.
That's all well and good. Yes we know the current system is broken and needs fixing. But this isn't it. This is making the current system a million times worse. So talking about the negatives about the current system and equating it to what has been proposed is silly. This is awful on every level focus on that not comparing.
The league itself would get boring very,very quickly.
Though I'm a 'less is more' kinda guy.
Though I'm a 'less is more' kinda guy.