Scarecrow
Having a week off
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Did anyone here at least make some money out of this?
Ithink it's at least partly anti-England. England votes to Leave Europe... Scotland votes Remain... Later, Scotland votes to leave Britain and join EU.I know this isn't really the place for such discussion, but if you believe in local rule/independence, then why are some Scottish nationalists so pro-EU?
To me the EU makes no secret of intentions to one day be a state, so what difference does Indy from UK make?
Paging @Cheesy for this one too.
It does.Well i can imagine some of that, as my thoughts were in a very similar place for few hours after that exit poll. And arguably, this result is an extension of what brought Corbyn to the leadership last year. Certainly, Britain was strongly Eurosceptic, but we are also part of a pattern of events.
You are in a great place though, ideal for enjoying this weather today. The spirit of Brighton transcends politics as i'm sure you know.
William Wallace and all those Picts would be turning in their graves!
I've just had an offer on a house accepted... should I back out? Mind you the house was on a good deal as it was a house re-possessed by the bank...
The people being interviewed on the news...
My god...
They did but I resent this referendum. I'm not a huge fan of democracy and I don't see how it was sensible to put such a complex vote to popular opinion.
I'm really not. Really quite fond of a mixture of democracy and technocracy.Oh dear.
You should be kicked out of the Euros now.
No. Hemel Hempstead.Is it in London?
No. Hemel Hempstead.
Ageist crap. In bucketfuls this morning.
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It's the young who have to live with this. Not the old.Ageist crap. In bucketfuls this morning.
In other news the young are having the vote taken off them because they don't have enough life experience to be trusted to vote sensibly.
I heard its decent? It's good for my commute to Osterley, and the house prices were generally expensive there but we got a great deal on a repossessed house.I used to live in Hemel Hempstead, crap place now
I heard its decent? It's good for my commute to Osterley, and the house prices were generally expensive there but we got a great deal on a repossessed house.
What makes you say its crap? I can still pull out of the deal...
hmm... I'm near a place called Lawn Lane... looked average and not as nice as the houses we were looking at in High Wycombe but it's more convenient for us.Haven't lived there for 20 years and a bit of a WUM .However depends which part of Hemel you're buying in, Boxmoor and Leverstock Green are nice areas
Ageist crap. In bucketfuls this morning.
In other news the young are having the vote taken off them because they don't have enough life experience to be trusted to vote sensibly.
I don't know that we should be overly concerned about leeches moving to someone else's swamp.Incredibly stupid decision. The big financial firms will probably leave Canary Wharf and move to Amsterdam or Madrid/Barcelona/Paris now.
Typical haves rhetoric again. Just blame the individual for the fact there aren't enough jobs, like the problem of unemployment would be solved if every unemployed would get off his backside. I'm not buying that.
Why can't you just admit that mass immigration from countries with much lower living costst tends to lower the price of labour and lower the availability of jobs? It's just very basic economics of supplie and demand, wishful thinking and putting the blame on individuals won't change that.
Ageist crap. In bucketfuls this morning.
In other news the young are having the vote taken off them because they don't have enough life experience to be trusted to vote sensibly.
I heard its decent? It's good for my commute to Osterley, and the house prices were generally expensive there but we got a great deal on a repossessed house.
What makes you say its crap? I can still pull out of the deal...
I agree with this. I know quite a few who voted to leave, and they aren't racists. I think they're wrong, but your point about the constant growing bureaucracy of the EU is the most important one (as well as the history of the member states). As it grew larger and larger, people became more and more disaffected. I can't say the decision to leave was a good one, but I wouldn't paint those who do think that as racist, stupid, or anything else. There were valid concerns on both sides, and though I think staying in the EU would have been a better result, you have to respect the fact that we have left.Not everyone who voted to leave is a racist. Not everyone who voted to stay cares what happens to ordinary people.
It is too early to know who won or lost as far as politicians are concerned. My hope is the ordinary citizen will win in the end.
The entire concept of the EU was doomed to fail. A United States of Europe will have suceeded. But that was never going to happen. Too much history. The Europeans all hate each other.
Britain will be OK.
Continental muck. I'd switch to Mead now mate.Oh and neat gin is rank!
Made £50 on a bet I put in on Wednesday. Better than nothing.Did anyone here at least make some money out of this?
What was your reason for voting leave?
Obviously it's because I'm racist at least that's what most remain voters think of us leave voters.
I have looked deep into it listened to both cases took the different pros and cons on board and made my decision. I don't need to delve into details of why I voted leave especially since I'm obviously in the minority on here (although plainly not in the UK) and don't want to create arguments with anyone.
Obviously it's because I'm racist at least that's what most remain voters think of us leave voters.
I have looked deep into it listened to both cases took the different pros and cons on board and made my decision. I don't need to delve into details of why I voted leave especially since I'm obviously in the minority on here (although plainly not in the UK) and don't want to create arguments with anyone.
Oh - are all of the non-EU countries being kicked out?You should be kicked out of the Euros now.
Good post. I voted remain - and I'm gutted leave won - but I can see some of their arguments - the bloating of the EU.I agree with this. I know quite a few who voted to leave, and they aren't racists. I think they're wrong, but your point about the constant growing bureaucracy of the EU is the most important one (as well as the history of the member states). As it grew larger and larger, people became more and more disaffected. I can't say the decision to leave was a good one, but I wouldn't paint those who do think that as racist, stupid, or anything else. There were valid concerns on both sides, and though I think staying in the EU would have been a better result, you have to respect the fact that we have left.
I quite agree. The old have paid far more into the system than the young so their opinion is perfectly valid. If the young were so bothered about the EU they should have turned out in greater numbers. It's ageist nonsense.
Too much history. The Europeans all hate each other.
It's crap because there are more people between 18-50 than above 50 in this country, so if the younger people had actually voted then they would have gotten their way. Young people should be pissed off at other young people who don't vote, not old people who vote against their personal wishes.
hmm... I'm near a place called Lawn Lane... looked average and not as nice as the houses we were looking at in High Wycombe but it's more convenient for us.
This isn't even definite.Which part of leaving and causing a recession seemed like a good idea? Cause I looked in to both sides and found it absolutely impossible to rightfully justify a leave vote. Nothing suggests we'll be better off out, it's all blind hope and wishful thinking combined with a dash of nostalgia for the good old days.
Typical haves rhetoric again. Just blame the individual for the fact there aren't enough jobs, like the problem of unemployment would be solved if every unemployed would get off his backside. I'm not buying that.
Why can't you just admit that mass immigration from countries with much lower living costst tends to lower the price of labour and lower the availability of jobs? It's just very basic economics of supplie and demand, wishful thinking and putting the blame on individuals won't change that.
It's crap because there are more people between 18-50 than above 50 in this country, so if the younger people had actually voted then they would have gotten their way. Young people should be pissed off at other young people who don't vote, not old people who vote against their personal wishes.