I doubt it would have mattered to be fair. Going off his reaction, I suspect Sancho woulda publically disputed that too....
Erik ten Hag vs Sancho | Sancho back in full training
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That makes some sense but it also seems that like in rugby we're moving towards clubs being vague about injuries (nature and duration) unless cleared by the player himself on the grounds it is medical information and the patient should have control about how it is disclosed in public.
What do you think Sancho's reaction would've been if ten Hag had lied and said he was injured then?
Deja vu after Ronaldo. Looks like Ten Haag might have an ego problem.
I hope hev doesnt wear that neither with his toxic attitude. He'd just ruin our youth
Ha! A poorly worded post.
I agree. The squad has been struggling with disciplinary problems for too long and someone had to rip off the bandaids soon or later.
It's not pleasant seeing one controversy after another with our club's name in it, but I believe it's a necessary pain.
That would be breach of contract though....
Yeah, how dare the big-headed bald twat expect a player, who is on >300k/w, to arrive on time to his job.
I don't know the exact conditions (Sancho or Lukaku earlier trained on a different ground or separately) but I believe there's a Sport Arbitration Court -don't know the exact English name- precedent you can't ban contracted players from training even if alone.
I quite like the idea of him being made to play with the U23s though, rather than just picking up his salary for nothing.
What a poor take. Sancho has been given every opportunity and been fully supported by ETH despite all evidence pointing to the fact he’s doing the bare minimum while picking up £300k + per week. Given all that happened last season for ETH to give the (innocuous) statement he did being vaguely negative speaks volumes to me, and it’s certainly not about the manager’s ego.
I haven't been following story minute by minute but it seems to me the hatchet must be buried. The manager had a public pop at Sancho, which was wrong, Sancho had his public pop at the manager, which was wrong and nothing is to be gained to having this drama continue to drag for weeks and months.
Oh, I think we'll be fine with Høylund and Amrabat coming in and Mount, Mantinez and Kainoo coming back.
Don't want him influencing the kids.
I still don't get why ETH had to say it and not just say something more diplomatic but after he said it, Sancho's reaction wasn't the right one. And then if it's true he hasn't apologised then he is done at the club
And Cantona won us games and trophies. Fergie knew he was special so treated differently and Cantona showed he was special
Sancho has shown us not very much apart from a few glimpses now and again. It sounds like Sancho has a big ego and does not take criticism very well. Theres only so nice ETH can be but if someone keeps taking the piss before you have to try something different.
He’d probably enjoy that, big fish in a small pond and can coast through games.
Whatever ETH said, Sancho would have had a childish reaction.
He has no accountability and this isn't the first time he's been called out for poor application in training.
If Sancho doesn't tweet out that garbage, this would have been a non-story based on what ETH said.
He should never play for us again.
On the flip side, academy players see what happens when you do what Sancho has done. It's quite an example.
Players are far too protected if what Ten Hag said counts as a pop.
I think he'd just had it with Sancho and didn't care to hold back when asked. If nothing else, he got to demonstrate what happens if you cross the line.
Maybe Erik was setting a trap, hoping Sancho would react. Better an angry Sancho than a slothful one.
He played quite a bit during preseason so I doubt the relationship was strained to this level at the start of the season.
The player probably expected to be a starter to begin the season and likely dropped further levels in training afterwards leading to the subsequent frustration from ETH and the situation we now have.
Personally don't think the manager was in the wrong, I believe he'd have given the player a fair shot at earning his place back in the XI had he showed it in training and in games.
Just think it was a massive own goal from the player if his aim was to salvage his career at United given the Antony situation exploding at the very same time. He'd have been the starter immediately had he been applying himself properly instead of throwing a fit over that comment.
The club was briefing journos all summer that this was a sort of make or break season for him under ETH so that's why he wasn't placed on the market. I'm sure the club and manager all planned that he'd be given even more chances to come good before this all kicked off.
Evidently it hasn't played out as anyone envisioned and now the situation/relationship looks untenable all of a sudden but that's a very different context to during the summer window.
Totally fine with Sancho being sold.. Totally fine with him not playing for us again and training with the reserves...
But complaining about him not entertaining a move to Saudi is ridiculous. Maybe he doesnt want to go there.. that is completely fine.
Also, asking him to apologize to ETH is so silly.. ETH being petty here.
I don't care what happens, but that is some stupid PR spin from the club.
But complaining about him not entertaining a move to Saudi is ridiculous. Maybe he doesnt want to go there.. that is completely fine.
Also, asking him to apologize to ETH is so silly.. ETH being petty here.
I don't care what happens, but that is some stupid PR spin from the club.
Cantona gave us maximum effort when he played, you could see he literally fought for th team. This attitude earns you some leeway in my opinion, same as the club obviously giving the likes of Keane and Rooney plenty of rope. They had their problems and the club supported them, they repaid that. Sancho has never repaid anything.
Freudian crap coming up, but here's my take. Fragile and stubborn egos often come from insecurities. Sancho plays like someone who's lost belief in his ability - like he's already lost the 50-50 or the tackle or the sprint to a through ball or an attempted take on even before he's stepped onto the pitch. He's insecure about his ability because he hasn't delivered in so long, he doesn't know if he can. And he'd do anything but admit it because it's a difficult pill to swallow. He'll avoid committing to the cause, enjoy his fabulous wages, find faults in everyone but himself. He'll blame the manager for not picking him, complain about ill-treatment compared to teammates, and make public posts and burn bridges in this fight because all of that is still better to him, in his mind, that stepping onto the pitch giving it his all and realizing it's just not enough anymore. He's so afraid of failing at this stage that he'll do anything to not try.
The solution was to intervene earlier. An arm around the shoulder, and stubborn persistence from the manager about starting him and providing positive reinforcement even when things aren't going his way. The solution is regular time to get his confidence up through moments where he ends up surprising himself with how good his own play is, and sustaining it through validation from teammates and manager. But all of that that requires patience and a tolerance for poor returns that a club like United cannot afford to provide. So I think he's done here. If he finds a club where he can recover his confidence and overcome his insecurities, there's still a baller in there. But it won't happen at United, and it won't happen if he keeps trying to run away from his fear of not being good enough anymore. The latter will be dicey given the sycophantic poor company such insecure high earners keep.
All that needs to happen is for ten Hag to ensure that Sancho never plays a single minute for us ever again.
Yes, unlike Ronaldo and Sancho. Deja noclue.
Don't know man, Sancho looks hard at work here in New York:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxGNafgtJyY/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
They can probably do better pushups than him
I suppose if he hasn't left changing room since Tuesday then he was probably not late on Wednesday and Thursday.
When is the interview with Piers Morgan ?
Sounds coherent, yes I imagine things deteriorated recently.
Mandated apology from the top is a little silly but for as hollow it could be, it's an essential step to talking it out, if they can do that...
On the field, Sancho's game was weak,
The goals and assists were far from peak.
Performance seemed beyond repair.
He left the fans in profound despair.
Earning big, the pressure grew,
Underperformed, a tantrum threw.
Underachievement, a bitter pill,
Struggled to rise, but standing still.
Time to leave, the moment is now,
Slowly back out and take a bow.
The goals and assists were far from peak.
Performance seemed beyond repair.
He left the fans in profound despair.
Earning big, the pressure grew,
Underperformed, a tantrum threw.
Underachievement, a bitter pill,
Struggled to rise, but standing still.
Time to leave, the moment is now,
Slowly back out and take a bow.
Just look no further than the screename
It wasn't even a pop. Managers usually use the "dropped due to tactical reasons" excuse . Jose would have been more direct.
Or if you were Guardiola, wouldn't even say anything, the player would just vanish.
Insecurity perhaps, but I think the main issue here is lack of self discipline.
This is spot on. I play over-45s football twice a week for pleasure but there's a grimace on my face because I'm running around trying to win! Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard and based on his time at United, I'm not even sure Sancho has that much talent.
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