Erik ten Hag | Currently unemployed

[Guv77]

If a manager demands that, that should be a red flag not to take him..

Spot on.
You find someone else and don’t give in.

 

[Sylar]

I still don't understand how after the first season we didn't get attackers. And then especially after the second, where we had negative GD we didn't get anybody other than zirkzee. Insane Eth didn't ask for any after the whole Ronaldo situation and he left in the first January window

 

[R'hllor]

You're right - we should expect a title win with this group of players.

Talking about from the moment SAF retired, dont act dumb, this group is just a last part of the slope.

 

[sugar_kane]

It’s actually pathetic how many posters are pinning current performances on Ten Hag. Even he didn’t have us playing this shite.

I think Amorim is a decent coach but foisting this new system on a team already in the gutter confidence wise is even more suicidal than Ten Hag’s 4-0-6 formation

 

[stevoc]

It’s actually pathetic how many posters are pinning current performances on Ten Hag. Even he didn’t have us playing this shite.

I think Amorim is a decent coach but foisting this new system on a team already in the gutter confidence wise is even more suicidal than Ten Hag’s 4-0-6 formation

It probably wasn't the wisest approach in hindsight.

 

[erikcred]

Finishing 8th with this squad may have been his greatest achievement.

 

[RDCR07]

Finishing 8th with this squad may have been his greatest achievement.

It was his squad. He put it together barring a few players. So how is it not his fault?

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

It’s actually pathetic how many posters are pinning current performances on Ten Hag. Even he didn’t have us playing this shite.

I think Amorim is a decent coach but foisting this new system on a team already in the gutter confidence wise is even more suicidal than Ten Hag’s 4-0-6 formation

Oh he did.

And it's extremely disingenuous to suggest otherwise. He served up far worse shite than tonight with way more time and to the tune of 400m+ on reinforcements.

To suggest we weren't this bad last season is hilarious. We were very lucky to finish 8th last season with the shit we served up.

 

[SuperiorXI]

Finishing 8th with this squad may have been his greatest achievement.

He failed at united, no question

 

[Lay]

It’s actually pathetic how many posters are pinning current performances on Ten Hag. Even he didn’t have us playing this shite.

I think Amorim is a decent coach but foisting this new system on a team already in the gutter confidence wise is even more suicidal than Ten Hag’s 4-0-6 formation

Yes he did. People have short memories and everything is always the worst it can get.

 

[njred]

It’s actually pathetic how many posters are pinning current performances on Ten Hag. Even he didn’t have us playing this shite.

I think Amorim is a decent coach but foisting this new system on a team already in the gutter confidence wise is even more suicidal than Ten Hag’s 4-0-6 formation

I don’t understand what united are doing here. If INEOS were going to bring a new coach in, why on earth would they bring him on board in the middle of a season if they knew his whole system was the opposite of what you were doing and needed a lot of time and practice to put it in place. Either they should have done this last summer and not given ETH all that money for players or the should have just played out this season with ETH and then get the new coach with the new system. Who makes that decision. This guy is probably the man to turn it around but already he is behind the eight ball because of ridiculous corporate decisions. No offense but this is as bad as I’ve seen united and I remember the 70s and 80s teams.

 

[sugar_kane]

I don’t understand what united are doing here. If INEOS were going to bring a new coach in, why on earth would they bring him on board in the middle of a season if they knew his whole system was the opposite of what you were doing and needed a lot of time and practice to put it in place. Either they should have done this last summer and not given ETH all that money for players or the should have just played out this season with ETH and then get the new coach with the new system. Who makes that decision. This guy is probably the man to turn it around but already he is behind the eight ball because of ridiculous corporate decisions. No offense but this is as bad as I’ve seen united and I remember the 70s and 80s teams.

It’s because like Woody they are making it up as they go along, but us fans just don’t want to see it.

 

[Waynne]

It’s actually pathetic how many posters are pinning current performances on Ten Hag. Even he didn’t have us playing this shite.

I think Amorim is a decent coach but foisting this new system on a team already in the gutter confidence wise is even more suicidal than Ten Hag’s 4-0-6 formation

I mean let's not get crazy. The 4-0-6 formation is terrible. It takes a routine forward pass into the gaping chasm in midfield to open us up in that setup. A prime example of that ridiculous setup being that Liverpool dog walked us 7-0.

We are just lacking players in certain areas to see progression at the moment. New GK, LWB, CM & STR should see us performing a lot better.

 

[gobertan]

It’s actually pathetic how many posters are pinning current performances on Ten Hag. Even he didn’t have us playing this shite.

This is his side. These are his players. Just because we have an incompetent board doesn't absolve ETH of the responsibility of recruiting players that have proven to be an absolute liability in this league. This is the single worst constructed United squad I have seen in my lifetime. Erik gave the green-light to spend over 600m to assemble it. He lost 4-0 to Brentford in his second game in charge. He lost 7-0 to Liverpool in his first season. We have literally been this shit for the last three years. What we are seeing on the pitch today is the culmination of investing 2+ years of time and money into one of the most inept, overrated football managers to ever get a job in the sport.

 

[Shaw's Shank Redemption]

It’s actually pathetic how many posters are pinning current performances on Ten Hag. Even he didn’t have us playing this shite.

I think Amorim is a decent coach but foisting this new system on a team already in the gutter confidence wise is even more suicidal than Ten Hag’s 4-0-6 formation

Rubbish post of 2024; congratulations.

Nearly every single one of this squad are his players that he bought just because of their Netherlands passports or visa.

I dont think its a coincidence that players like Zirkzee, Mazroui,De Ligt, Mount are all either from holland or have played there & when you think about us targeting Brantwaithe last summer showed us that Ineos were still buying players for Ten Hag because they gave him an extra couple of months.

The only player Ineos signed without the influence of Ten Hag wanting that particular player is Ugarte as seen by Ten Hag's hesitation to play him during the first couple of months.

Ten Hag has put the club a good 5-7 years back from finding its feet again & easily the worst manager post SAF.

He has turned United to a worse version of Ajax because Ajax itself has a strong foundation of a well run european club that we havent had for sometime.

We assumed that Ajax got in to the semi final because of Ten Hag, but in reality it was Ajax well run club that gave Ten Hag a good group of players to work with rather than Ten Hag buying and selling all these players as he wished.

Again, congratulations.

 

[Snow]

I still don't understand how after the first season we didn't get attackers. And then especially after the second, where we had negative GD we didn't get anybody other than zirkzee. Insane Eth didn't ask for any after the whole Ronaldo situation and he left in the first January window

Why do you assume he didn't? He publicly said when Højlund was signed that another more senior striker was needed. He never got that signing, probably because the higher ups were happy with Rashford as that figure.

I also recommend you read up on how Ole described how the transfer worked in his time here and how much power they had in that department.

 

[erikcred]

It was his squad. He put it together barring a few players. So how is it not his fault?

He failed at united, no question

It was a Mourinho reference.

 

[redDNA]

From recruitment point of view,has to be the Manager that has done the most damage post Sir Alex.
The bolded looking like flops

• Antony – £85m
• Rasmus Hojlund – £72m
• Casemiro – £70m
• Mason Mount – £60m
• Lisandro Martinez – £57m
• Leny Yoro – £52m
• Manuel Ugarte – £50.8m
• Andre Onana – £47.2m
• Matthijs de Ligt – £43m
• Joshua Zirkzee – £36m
• Noussair Mazraoui – £17m
• Tyrell Malacia – £14.6m
• Altay Bayindir – £4.3m

 

[redNATION]

From recruitment point of view,has to be the Manager that has done the most damage post Sir Alex.
The bolded being looking like flops

• Antony – £85m
• Rasmus Hojlund – £72m
• Casemiro – £70m
• Mason Mount – £60m
• Lisandro Martinez – £57m
• Leny Yoro – £52m
• Manuel Ugarte – £50.8m
• Andre Onana – £47.2m
• Matthijs de Ligt – £43m
• Joshua Zirkzee – £36m
• Noussair Mazraoui – £17m
• Tyrell Malacia – £14.6m
• Altay Bayindir – £4.3m

I think he and Ole combined - the latter having lumbered us with Maguire, Wan Bissaka, van de Beek, Sancho and Varane. Thats near enough £1bn between these two for no material improvement to the squad.

 

[OmarUnited4ever]

He left us turds in :-

Cas
Eriksen
Antony
Zirkzee
Hojlund for now
Malacia
Mount
Onana
Martinez is becoming a turd as time goes on.

Promoted a one dimensional player like Garna while letting Amad rot in the bench, Maz & De Ligt aren't the best though not turds for now, while Ugarte & Yoro are young enough to become more than what they are now.

Other turds like Maguire, Shaw and Rashford are still in the club, not on Ten Hag but he should've let them go if possible.

 

[That_Bloke]

I think he and Ole combined - the latter having lumbered us with Maguire, Wan Bissaka, van de Beek, Sancho and Varane. Thats near enough £1bn between these two for no material improvement to the squad.

That's the crucial point. Ole started it and EtH piled on, although I personally consider the latter to have done most of the damage.

These two, alongside the club's upper echelons allowing them to do as they please and overstay their welcome, are the reason why MU are where they are.

It also underlines the danger of indulging shit managers for too long. Just like a tumor you have to take it out as soon as possible before it metastasizes and gets out of control. The same goes for players.

This leaves Amorim, whom I personally rate, with a Mount Everest to climb whilst not even having a pre-season or any of his own signings. And he's not going to change his system, after all that's why he was brought in.

The problem is there's such an amount of shit players across every single position on the field unable to adapt, that I fear that Amorim won't make it to the summer. It's a business result at the end of the day and these crushing defeats can only be tolerated for so long.

INEOS' decision to not sack Ten Hag after the FA Cup might be proven to be extremely costly.

 

[MO_Football92]

A well organized and self respecting club should never ever allow that.. Should be a very large red flag for hiring a manager if you ask me..

The manager needs majority of control because they're more knowledgeable about football. Do you think Viera, Henry, Fabregas etc go to Arsenal if Wenger wasn't on transfer committee?

 

[giorno]

The manager needs majority of control because they're more knowledgeable about football.

In the last 30 years that's literally only been true of Wenger and Ferguson, and with the former it stopped being the case after a while, too

The managers working today are coaches. That's their job. Scouting players, identifying targets, is something they have little to no experience with

 

[Irwin99]

I think he and Ole combined - the latter having lumbered us with Maguire, Wan Bissaka, van de Beek, Sancho and Varane. Thats near enough £1bn between these two for no material improvement to the squad.

also Dan James, that Brazilian full back whose name I can’t remember, and some stop gap signings that did a decent job but didn’t really have a long term future at the club. Each manager inherits a mess it seems and somehow makes it worse after initially getting by and hitting top 4.

 

[Big Ben Foster]

The manager needs majority of control because they're more knowledgeable about football. Do you think Viera, Henry, Fabregas etc go to Arsenal if Wenger wasn't on transfer committee?

How much football do you think managers even have the time to watch? They're coaches, not scouts.

 

[MO_Football92]

In the last 30 years that's literally only been true of Wenger and Ferguson, and with the former it stopped being the case after a while, too

The managers working today are coaches. That's their job. Scouting players, identifying targets, is something they have little to no experience with

That's ignorant, because Wenger had barely any money between 2005-2013; yet still competed.

Well maybe football has become too coach oriented, because the games definitely gone backwards. If not managers whose; identifying players? The scouts OR DOF lack Wenger, Ferguson, Peps observational skills and football knowledge

 

[MO_Football92]

How much football do you think managers even have the time to watch? They're coaches, not scouts.

Football managers are obsessed with football; Wenger was watching 2 games a day.

"Coaching" has become overrated in the last 6-7 years. I say that as a current UEFA licensed coach

 

[Blood Mage]

His signings are the reason we're so shite so I don't want to see any sympathy. We must never let a coach with shocking talent ID oversee recruitment again.

 

[Ace]

That's the crucial point. Ole started it and EtH piled on, although I personally consider the latter to have done the most damage.

These two, alongside the club's upper echelons allowing them to do as they please and overstay their welcome, are the reason why MU are where they are.

It also underlines the danger of indulging shit managers for too long. like a tumor you have to root it out as soon as possible before it metastasizes and gets out of control. The same goes for players.

This leaves Amorim, whom I personally rate, with a Mount Everest to climb whilst not even having a pre-season or any of his own signings. He's not going to change his system, after all that's why he was brought in.

However there's such an amount of shit players across every single position on the field unable to adapt, that I fear that Amorim won't make it to the summer. It's a business result at the end of the day and these crushing defeats can only be tolerated for so long.

INEOS decision to not sack Ten Hag after the FA Cup might prove to be extremely costly.

Take your pick from all the available candidates, but EtH probably was the worse appointment in our history given the rebuild he was in charge of. There isn’t a single transfer he’s had a hand in who looks value for money or someone who will be able to contribute to our success in the future. Close to a billion spent and we’re so much worse than when he took over across all areas.

I do think Amorim will be given some time, but will not get as much time or investment as EtH. I think Sir Jim is just as clueless as anyone though. I still can’t believe EtH lasted the whole season last year… Then was given hundreds of millions to spend this summer trying to recreate his Ajax side from 2018.

 

[Gandalf]

also Dan James, that Brazilian full back whose name I can’t remember, and some stop gap signings that did a decent job but didn’t really have a long term future at the club. Each manager inherits a mess it seems and somehow makes it worse after initially getting by and hitting top 4.

Dan remains a success story simply because he was a relatively cheap punt, did a job for a couple of years and then was sold for a pretty decent profit. More of that would have helped tremendously in recent years. Funnily enough, Dan has added a lot to his game since leaving and right now would make a far better Wingback in the 3-4-3 than any of the current squad.

 

[dannyrhinos89]

Dan remains a success story simply because he was a relatively cheap punt, did a job for a couple of years and then was sold for a pretty decent profit. More of that would have helped tremendously in recent years. Funnily enough, Dan has added a lot to his game since leaving and right now would make a far better Wingback in the 3-4-3 than any of the current squad.

I watch a lot of Leeds games and he’s absolutely fantastic player, way better than anything United have.

 

[soapythecat]

I wish him all the bad luck in the rest of his managerial career. His record at United in the transfer market is the reason we are where we are. We need to ban his initials from the Caf as his legacy could be the straw that broke our back and relegates us.

 

[The Firestarter]

I wish him all the bad luck in the rest of his managerial career. His record at United in the transfer market is the reason we are where we are. We need to ban his initials from the Caf as his legacy could be the straw that broke our back and relegates us.

what a car crash of a post

 

[JBG]

Finishing 8th with this squad may have been his greatest achievement.

Using as much money as he did and still buying shit player after shit player is an even greater achievement.

I hope he steps on legos everyday he wakes up.

 

[Tom Van Persie]

Cheers for the two trophies but he might have set us back more any other United manager.

 

[giorno]

The scouts OR DOF lack Wenger, Ferguson, Peps observational skills and football knowledge

They don't, they have better observational skills than Guardiola, for example, because that's their actual job. As opposed to Guardiola's.

 

[Castia]

Finishing 8th with this squad may have been his greatest achievement.

The same squad he assembled with hundreds of millions spent on former players

Cheers Erik!

 

[erikcred]

Using as much money as he did and still buying shit player after shit player is an even greater achievement.

I hope he steps on legos everyday he wakes up.

The same squad he assembled with hundreds of millions spent on former players

Cheers Erik!

Guys, it was a joking reference to Mourinho claiming that finishing 2nd with us was probably his greatest achievement.

 

[JBG]

Guys, it was a joking reference to Mourinho claiming that finishing 2nd with us was probably his greatest achievement.

Ah... sarcasm isn't always easy to get in text hehe.

Edit: still want him to step on legos everyday.

 

[M16Red]

Watched the highlights of that West Ham game, really should have won that game.

Ref is a coke head and Michael Oliver as VAR should really be looked at.



But alas here we are....