Erik ten Hag | Currently unemployed

Devil’s Trident said:
Can Jurrien timber play as a RB ? Like at a very good level or atleast good level ? I don’t see any sense signing a cb when there are so many holes in our squad.
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He has played at right back in the past (about a third of his minutes last season), almost exclusively at centre back this season. I think at 5’10” he’d struggle as a centre-back in the Premier League. What’s interesting is that Ten Hag pointed out that Guardiola underestimated the physicality of English football when he arrived (the context was how even the best coaches cannot be too rigid in their thinking and must adapt). On that basis, it’s unlikely that Ten Hag would make the same (fairly obvious in this case) mistake.

I’ve got a feeling that he’d make a fantastic Premier League full-back, great engine and a fantastic dribbler. Pretty great passer too, could work as an inverted or overlapping full-back IMO.
 
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L1nk said:
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Who's this guy? Says had a piece in MEN which immediately makes me doubt him.

Ajax still have some tough games in the league (though a few points lead) and cup final shortly.

If they win next four and cup final (so all maybe wrapped up), I can see an announcement then but not sure what's in it for Ajax to potentially feck their season in April if affects team.
 
Devil’s Trident said:
Can Jurrien timber play as a RB ? Like at a very good level or atleast good level ? I don’t see any sense signing a cb when there are so many holes in our squad.
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We can sign him and still fill those other holes, theoretically. He sounds like a very important "system" player also
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
Who's this guy? Says had a piece in MEN which immediately makes me doubt him.

Ajax still have some tough games in the league (though a few points lead) and cup final shortly.

If they win next four and cup final (so all maybe wrapped up), I can see an announcement then but not sure what's in it for Ajax to potentially feck their season in April if affects team.
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I keep hearing this sentiment but I don't get it. Surely its the worst kept secret that ten Hag is leaving at the end of the season, irrespective of whether he joins us or not. And I'm sure his players have already accepted it, that's if it hasn't been relayed to them already.

The only reason I can see this announcement being delayed is out of respect for Ajax, to whom ten Hag is still contracted to until the end of next season.
 
Devil’s Trident said:
Can Jurrien timber play as a RB ? Like at a very good level or atleast good level ? I don’t see any sense signing a cb when there are so many holes in our squad.
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He started out as an RB. So yes, but i prefer him to be at Ajax for atleast another year
 
Kaos said:
I keep hearing this sentiment but I don't get it. Surely its the worst kept secret that ten Hag is leaving at the end of the season, irrespective of whether he joins us or not. And I'm sure his players have already accepted it, that's if it hasn't been relayed to them already.

The only reason I can see this announcement being delayed is out of respect for Ajax, to whom ten Hag is still contracted to until the end of next season.
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You've probably seen/read more than me. Bits I've read say still undecided and a two horse race. If it was that certain, I think one of the big boys would have said so.

But either way, once it's officially announced (that's if he doesn't back out given the team he'll inherit), there'll be a big increase in media/journalism on the club, so I still think they'd like to cap it, even if it's a temp/artificial cap.
 
Terranova said:
He started out as an RB. So yes, but i prefer him to be at Ajax for atleast another year
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You a big Ajax fan? What's the feeling from your fan base... leaving, coming to United? Any views on style of play and management?

The tiny bits I've heard sound good but I do think our next manager/the club need to grow a pair and give several players some home truths and exit a few too. Such a pampered, overrated, under performing squad.
 
croadyman said:
Yeah don't pander to these lazy primadonnas would be a good start
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There is no question that this point is an absolute must. However, since SAF, I genuinely can’t think of a single player who any coach at OT has actually improved as an actual player, their professionalism or their attitude although I stand to be corrected. Now it could be argued that United sign world class players who can’t be improved in those areas but I really don’t think that is the case. Look how coaching at Liverpool and City has improved players who were already “world class or thereabouts” such as VVD, KDB, Salah and I’m sure there are many more at those clubs.
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
You a big Ajax fan? What's the feeling from your fan base... leaving, coming to United? Any views on style of play and management?

The tiny bits I've heard sound good but I do think our next manager/the club need to grow a pair and give several players some home truths and exit a few too. Such a pampered, overrated, under performing squad.
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i'm a big Ajax fan yes, but i can't answer for the fanbase. But i think most of them feel that it's inevitable after 5 years, i do at least. I don't mind having a fresh start at Ajax, but then again i've never been the greatest fan of Ten Hag at Ajax.
But that's not because of his tactics, so i think he can do well at United. But the squad needs to be overhauled.
 
Kaos said:
I keep hearing this sentiment but I don't get it. Surely its the worst kept secret that ten Hag is leaving at the end of the season, irrespective of whether he joins us or not. And I'm sure his players have already accepted it, that's if it hasn't been relayed to them already.

The only reason I can see this announcement being delayed is out of respect for Ajax, to whom ten Hag is still contracted to until the end of next season.
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Similar worst kept secret situation happens all the time. However, making it official means giving the press license to ask everyone going out from Ajax facility about this, and they can't brush questions off simply with generic answer about focus on Ajax season, or "I don't know".
 
ti vu said:
Similar worst kept secret situation happens all the time. However, making it official means giving the press license to ask everyone going out from Ajax facility about this, and they can't brush questions off simply with generic answer about focus on Ajax season, or "I don't know".
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I mean ten Hag is still constantly asked in pretty much every interview given. As for not brushing off questions if its made officials - he could easily just dismiss with a "I'm only focused on Ajax until the end of the season, I'll discuss United in the summer".
 
Terranova said:
i'm a big Ajax fan yes, but i can't answer for the fanbase. But i think most of them feel that it's inevitable after 5 years, i do at least. I don't mind having a fresh start at Ajax, but then again i've never been the greatest fan of Ten Hag at Ajax.
But that's not because of his tactics, so i think he can do well at United. But the squad needs to be overhauled.
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Please elaborate if you don't mind.
 
Kaos said:
I mean ten Hag is still constantly asked in pretty much every interview given. As for not brushing off questions if its made officials - he could easily just dismiss with a "I'm only focused on Ajax until the end of the season, I'll discuss United in the summer".
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You can say that, but you sound a proper hypocrite to a reasonable question by repeating that line when you officially sign stuff with other clubs mid season. You can't just sign stuff, and not aware of all the terms, plan for your next club.

ETH kept responding about his focus is with Ajax now, and in a good position where he can shoot down further attempt to phishing out any info.
 
Desert Eagle said:
Please elaborate if you don't mind.
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He's quite stubborn and doesn't adapt well to new situations, at least not fast enough. That's why he keeps using the same players and doesn't rotate that much, because he knows it's not gonna work well.
But it's a vicious circle, because it doesn't work because the players that come on don't have enough game time in the system to instantly works.

Luckily it's not a big problem most of the times, because his Plan A works like a charm.
 
Whomever the new manager is, if indeed it is to be ten Hag, then I will wish him all of the very best of luck, he will surely end it.

I hope for one thing, that he embraces and is open to co-operation and working alongside Skinner, to bring the two first teams closer together.
It would be great to see a close harmony between them.
 
MUW4Eva said:
Whomever the new manager is, if indeed it is to be ten Hag, then I will wish him all of the very best of luck, he will surely end it.
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I know the United job is a bit of a poisoned chalice at the moment, but I don't think he'll take his own life over it.
 
croadyman said:
Yeah Wayne is part of the ex players cult controlled by Fergie who are continuing to push for Pochettino in the media
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You do realise how stupid you sound Same Rooney controlled by Sir Alex who didn't even think he was the best coach he had worked under despite all the successes they had together .
 
croadyman said:
Yeah Wayne is part of the ex players cult controlled by Fergie who are continuing to push for Pochettino in the media
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Or perhaps he objectively thinks Pochettino is the best choice.
 
Remember the last time people in the media pushed us towards a certain manager? I'm not slating Ole, I'm just saying. Every idiot read that unbeaten run as a reason to hire him. Now every media outlet keeps hyping up Pochettino. I'd rather the other choice then.

All in all, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but it's constantly the same thing. "PL Proven", "PL Proven". That's all I keep seeing and hearing. Well, forgive me but both Moyes and Mourinho were "PL Proven" and they didn't work out, neither did the other two so its 50/50 and that point is meaningless. Sean fecking Dyche is PL proven, should we get him then?

At one point, Pochettino wasn't PL proven, neither was Pep, neither was Klopp. Neither was Tuchel or Conte when Chelsea initially hired him. And to a lesser but important extent, neither was Bruno Lage when Wolves brought him in and he's done a decent job with them.

Manchester United needs a new manager with fresh ideas and a fresh approach. I'm sorry, but everything about Pochettino these days spells more of the same that we've experienced for the last 8 to 9 years.
 
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Not sarcasm just be nice to see someone who has a connection to the club talking up Ten Hag instead of Pochettino that's all
 
croadyman said:
Not sarcasm just be nice to see someone who has a connection to the club talking up Ten Hag instead of Pochettino that's all
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Well they won’t if they prefer other candidates, logically.
 
Rozay said:
Or perhaps he objectively thinks Pochettino is the best choice.
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Wayne probably doesn't know anyone, aside from Blind, about EtH. But he knows the Spurs lads who know Poch well. And he's played against Pochettino managed teams a few times.

His opinion about Pochettino is more "subjective" because he's very familiar with him as player v manager's team and from his discussions with players who have played for Pochettino.

Wayne could easily just ring up Blind or van der Sar and chat with them, but pretty sure he doesn't have the time (nor ease) to do that since playing/coaching with Derby, while Blind and VDS are up and over in Holland.
 
edcunited1878 said:
Wayne probably doesn't know anyone, aside from Blind, about EtH. But he knows the Spurs lads who know Poch well. And he's played against Pochettino managed teams a few times.

His opinion about Pochettino is more "subjective" because he's very familiar with him as player v manager's team and from his discussions with players who have played for Pochettino.

Wayne could easily just ring up Blind or van der Sar and chat with them, but pretty sure he doesn't have the time (nor ease) to do that since playing/coaching with Derby, while Blind and VDS are up and over in Holland.
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Have you concluded all this because he’s just some Englishman or something, who despite having played the game and been a pro manager for decades, couldn’t possibly know as much as yourself, for example, about any football not played within 100 miles of him?

It is perfectly feasible that he is aware of both candidates and thinks the one with the superior track record is a better fit.
 
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