Erik ten Hag | Currently unemployed

It's unfortunate that Roy Keane can't work under Fergie, otherwise he wd have been my preferred choice to take over, especially to deal with the egos, player power and attitudes that have reared their ugly heads at the club of late.
 
It's unfortunate that Roy Keane can't work under Fergie, otherwise he wd have been my preferred choice to take over, especially to deal with the egos, player power and attitudes that have reared their ugly heads at the club of late.
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It's unfortunate that Roy Keane can't work under Fergie, otherwise he wd have been my preferred choice to take over, especially to deal with the egos, player power and attitudes that have reared their ugly heads at the club of late.

Keano could've been useful in overthrowing Batista.

In restoring United? Not so much.
 
Ornstein reporting we want it sorted by the end of March.

If we pull that off by the end of March it would be the work of a well run club. But I can’t see us being that professional and well run. We will probably drag this one out as we always do.
 
I still have my suspicions that this is all noise and the board are just waiting for PSG to sack Poch so they can appoint him on a free, but we'll see. I'm more optimistic about our interest in Ten Hag now than I was a month ago.
 
It's unfortunate that Roy Keane can't work under Fergie, otherwise he wd have been my preferred choice to take over, especially to deal with the egos, player power and attitudes that have reared their ugly heads at the club of late.

Keane can't even pass an interview at Sunderland.
 
I initially thought there was no chance that we would go for him- but now I think he’ll be our man. I still think he’s a risk, and i think Poch is a very good manager, but I’m now fully team ETH. At least it’ll be exciting.
 
He’s definitely the best (and most exciting) appointment simply because we don’t know how good he really is. Someone like Poch is a known entity - we know he’s a pretty good manager but isn’t going to have us competing with City and Liverpool. None of the established managers are as good as Pep and Klopp - our best bet is taking a gamble on someone relatively unproven but has shown signs he could be the real deal.
Agreed. Especially the part Poch is good but not good enough to compete with Pep and Klopp. I remember read somewhere a good manager 30% is tactic, 70% is social and man management skill(both the board and the players).

Edit.

Found it
Julian Nagelsmann - "30% of coaching is tactics, 70% is social competence"
 
Agreed. Especially the part Poch is good but not good enough to compete with Pep and Klopp. I remember read somewhere a good manager 30% is tactic, 70% is social and man management skill(both the board and the players).

I dont expect us to compete the next two years anyway. And by the summer of ‘24 both of them will (hopefully/probably) be gone.
 
What’s his touchline presence like?

All top managers now are animated on the touchline and put pressure on officials.

Ia he quite calm / sits a lot? Or can he be quite animated?
 
Agreed. Especially the part Poch is good but not good enough to compete with Pep and Klopp. I remember read somewhere a good manager 30% is tactic, 70% is social and man management skill(both the board and the players).

Edit.

Found it
Julian Nagelsmann - "30% of coaching is tactics, 70% is social competence"
You should add in there management of the coaching staff and training. Despite what so many fans think a massive part of it is what happens on the training pitch. Training session quality has to be top quality, if it isnt even the best man managers and tactics wont work.
 
Hiring a manager based on how much they wave their arms around is fecking mental
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I’d quite like a hyperactive manager too. Constantly at the players demanding more rather than calmly sitting and waiting till half time to speak.

Obviously that manager has to be more than competent too.
 
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I’d quite like a hyperactive manager too. Constantly at the players demanding more rather than calmly sitting and waiting till half time to speak.

Obviously that manager has to be more than competent too.
According to Roy Keane it is about passion and who wants it more. That's why he is a pundit now suggested Simeone as next United manager.
 
To me, Ten Hag benefits from exotic name syndrome. I haven’t seen a superstar there but could be wrong. Whoever Utd choose they need to give them at least 3 years.
 
Hopefully we’re getting him tied down now before Madrid/PSG are in the market for a coach. We’ve had 6 months to prepare, even we should be able to do a deal in that time.
 
To me, Ten Hag benefits from exotic name syndrome. I haven’t seen a superstar there but could be wrong. Whoever Utd choose they need to give them at least 3 years.
Would it be better if his name was Eric Gazza Smith?
 
To me, Ten Hag benefits from exotic name syndrome. I haven’t seen a superstar there but could be wrong. Whoever Utd choose they need to give them at least 3 years.

Surely an exotic name is something fancy like Bravo Sanchez or something. ETH is hardly an exotic name, you just mean he comes from another country.
 
Hopefully we’re getting him tied down now before Madrid/PSG are in the market for a coach. We’ve had 6 months to prepare, even we should be able to do a deal in that time.

It's so strange people think it's a risk us employing him, but never say the same of PSG or Madrid when they make similar appointments.
 
It's so strange people think it's a risk us employing him, but never say the same of PSG or Madrid when they make similar appointments.
It's because people think we are above all these clubs and their hipster manager choices. There's a real elitism in this fanbase that people need to look in the mirror at, but refuse to. It's the same with players, a top club sells a player and see how many times you read "why would we want this clubs reject"
 
It's because people think we are above all these clubs and their hipster manager choices. There's a real elitism in this fanbase that people need to look in the mirror at, but refuse to. It's the same with players, a top club sells a player and see how many times you read "why would we want this clubs reject"
Nah I think it's just more to do with everyone being a big risk at United because of everything above the manager. But it shouldn't be held against any 1 manager, as it applies for everyone. Other clubs you assume they'll also implement the structure around the manager that he needs. Here ... Who knows?
 
To me, Ten Hag benefits from exotic name syndrome. I haven’t seen a superstar there but could be wrong. Whoever Utd choose they need to give them at least 3 years.

There is absolutely nothing exotic about the name Erik ten Hag.

You just mean foreign.
 
It's so strange people think it's a risk us employing him, but never say the same of PSG or Madrid when they make similar appointments.
I think possibly they think those clubs would realise their mistake a lot sooner than we would. Poch is on his way out of PSG after what, a year? Madrid gave Rafa the bullet after 6 months, Lopetegui only half that. United on the other hand seem to stick to their guns, I mean Ole got 3 years on the back of one interim stint.
 
To me, Ten Hag benefits from exotic name syndrome. I haven’t seen a superstar there but could be wrong. Whoever Utd choose they need to give them at least 3 years.
If he had a British name like Mauricio Pochettino would anyone be interested?
 
Surely an exotic name is something fancy like Bravo Sanchez or something. ETH is hardly an exotic name, you just mean he comes from another country.

Exotic as in "no typical english surname" like Johnson, James, Jones, etc

Ten Hag isn't an anglo surname.

Yes, it's exotic, unless dutch surnames are common in England, which i don't think it's the case.
 
There is absolutely nothing exotic about the name Erik ten Hag.

You just mean foreign.

It is, depending on your location.

Dutch names aren't common in England either.
 
Exotic as in "no typical english surname" like Johnson, James, Jones, etc

Ten Hag isn't an anglo surname.

Yes, it's exotic, unless dutch surnames are common in England, which i don't think it's the case.

Definition of exotic is: 'originating in or characteristic of a distant foreign country.'

Netherlands isn't that. Exotic for me has always meant to be about places far away and mysterious.
 
Definition of exotic is: 'originating in or characteristic of a distant foreign country.'

Netherlands isn't that. Exotic for me has always meant to be about places far away and mysterious.
Both 'Ten' and 'Hag' are even words in English. (If only his name were 'Ten Hags'!)
 
This discussion is stupid, the initial comment is borderline xenophobic lets be honest. It's basically claiming Erik Ten Hag only has his reputation because his name sounds foreign, he might as well have followed it up with 'why not get a pwoper Bri'ish manager like Big Sam in he'll sort us owt'
 
Hasn't Ten Hag basically bettered the likes of Nagelsmann and Rose, both of those garnered a fair amount of support in becoming our new manager.
 
Hasn't Ten Hag basically bettered the likes of Nagelsmann and Rose, both of those garnered a fair amount of support in becoming our new manager.
Yes but Pochettino beat ETH that one time and so he's a vastly better manager don't you understand. Just as Ole beat Guardiola so he's a vastly better manager, that's how these things work
 
Personally I don't want any manager that has ever lost a game. Bottling mentality.
 
Yes but Pochettino beat ETH that one time and so he's a vastly better manager don't you understand. Just as Ole beat Guardiola so he's a vastly better manager, that's how these things work

Pochettino also beat Guardiola in a two legged champions league semifinal. That's impressive, no matter how you cut it. Even more so, he did it with perennial bottlers, Tottenham.