More like hag-gis after seeing the squad for the first time.
Erik ten Hag | Currently unemployed
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More like hag-gis after seeing the squad for the first time.
We might have been bruised, battered and worse for wear the years after SAF but this is the best symbolic representation of Ole's cultural DNA revolution results.
We might have been bruised, battered and worse for wear the years after SAF but this is the best symbolic representation of Ole's cultural DNA revolution results.
Thats just stupid.
Anyway enough of this I hate Ole thread -- its suppose to be about Ten Hag.
No hate for Ole from me, he is a lovely man and a club legend, he was just in the deep end compared to his skills. Best not forget the lessons learned. No one is interested or will benefit from a repeat of that DNA crap again, just saying. It was all very pseudo scientific neobabble. Ten Hag seem to have his own identity so hopefully we go the more professional route with him at the rudder.
Good one.
They look the same to me. The right one is just brighter
We might have been bruised, battered and worse for wear the years after SAF but this is the best symbolic representation of Ole's cultural DNA revolution results.
I agree, if Ole had won the league he'd be the most successful
up the fluff
Doesn’t really matter though does it if you get 81 points or 74 points, Solskjær still finished runners up aswell and played a lot better football then Jose, yes it wasn’t always pretty under Solskjær but he had us playing some good football at times. I’d take a 74 point 2nd place finish and enjoyable football then an 81 point 2nd place finish and horrible football to watch. There both the same outcome you don’t get anything for 2nd place finishes.
The football that season was not better than Joses. And we had a terrible home record, and we came back from losing positions in more than 50% of away games
As long as it's not "Ten Hag bottles (hanging on a wall)".
How does that version even end though?
No hag bottles hanging on the wall?
That’s Edam surely (the cheese not the pronunciation)? Some Gouda is classy and flavourful; the cumin one is particularly good.
Edam is the cheese from hell. I’m sure there are worse ones in America, but there’s no nastier “traditional“ cheese in Europe.
Interesting how City and Liverpool win so many trophies when it's apparently luck based. Wish we'd fluke a couple after our 5 year drought
Well yes, I suppose so. Hmm, needs some work.
I mean, I agree that he's not good enough to be in the XI. Maybe not even first choice as a sub, but surely it wouldn't make sense to buy a player in his position to make him sit on the bench and only playing him in 10-15 games? If he fits within the system, I don't get see he shouldn't be in the 23 man squad. And since he's had a few good performances in the past, we don't know if ETH might find a use for him. We should be buying first-team players. As long as we improve the first XI, most of the current squad will be falling down the pecking order in any case. That's how we get better.
And it certainly doesn't make sense to sell him this window. I would say, wait a couple of seasons and then ship him off to Everton or Brighton or something. Perhaps Garner or any of the other Academy graduates will replace him as squad player in due time.
A bit More than some work, good luck!Well yes, I suppose so. Hmm, needs some work.
Not in my book, it’s not debatable but others might see it differently i guess. As the poster above said, remove the trophies and we might have a debate
Assuming by plane or train
Im pretty sure it was close a week ago if everything was agreed 3-4 days ago ffs
Firstly since he is a club legend, how do you explain all the disrespect that's going on here? You wonder why footballers have become so insular --- if they read the crap that was being said about them?!!!! They used to want to play for the fans -- but with United fans like those here, I would find new inspirations.
Then secondly we are only keyboard warriors and the majority of us here have ZERO experience in professional football never mind any intimate knowledge about the going-ons of the club. Yet there are those who seem cocksure on how to manage, coach professional footballers. I have read some idiot who has analysed the coach methodologies of the various managers and claimed that the previous managers were just not good enough. The level of delusion of some of the posters here are RAWKish levels.
So who are we to judge whether Ole was in the deep end? Offering an opinion is one thing but to pass judgements? He claimed that he tried his best and worked as hard as possible.That's all you can expect from him or any person. He has achieved more than 99.99% of us here ever will in our lives. Lets be cognitive of that and have some modesty and self-awareness.
Sometimes its about luck or getting the lucky breaks in life never mind in football. Fergie will be the first to attest to that.
If you know the history of United you would be a lot more respectful of past players. What is a club if not for the players and the managers? It ain't about a feckin badge.
Remind me how close to the title were we when Mourinho finished 2nd?
If only winning titles was as simple as writing stuff on a message board... Any clues why we didn't come close to any good, consistent progress in the league under Mourinho?
Are you his agent?
This will never not be funny to me. One of the best things to happen this millenium.
We might have been bruised, battered and worse for wear the years after SAF but this is the best symbolic representation of Ole's cultural DNA revolution results.
LEAVE OLE ALONE *sobs hysterically*
Remind me how close Ole was when he finished 2nd? Ole even got less points than Jose in the famed 2nd place finish for Ole.
He's disrespected around here because of the horrible results as a manager.
Next, if you respect a man just because he played for Man United, you're out of your god damn mind. You know nothing of the man, how who behaves, who he is and so on. Are you still respecting Mason Greenwood or Epstein?
Stop this respect shit and treat football players/public persons like normal dudes, as they are the same as us.
Your post is very RAWKish, very very RAWKish.
Ten Hag and Van der Gaag
People don't respect a man just because he plays for Manchester United - people respect a player who scored 126 goals in 366 games whilst 150 of those games actually came off the bench. He also was vital to one of our only 3 CL titles which we don't even have much of.
Just because Ole failed here as manager doesn't mean he intentionally wanted to put United down. He tried his best and now He's in the past and I don't know why people don't just get over it rather than talking about him as a problem we could change.
Performance, worse than LVG and similar to Jose. Points worse than Jose. So nope.
Ten Hag signs Manchester United
Come back and ask me in 3 years when he still hasn't got a remotely top job. I'm sure you will still be telling us that its all just a misunderstanding and that hes really a good manager
I agree with pretty much a great chunk of your post, I dont particularly like the insulting tone vs our players. My world is not binary it has scales, to me, Ole as a coach he was never up to spec in terms of track record, tactics and strategy as evident by hindsight, he always bottled it at the most crucial cup moments, sadly so. He also had unexperienced but friendly coaches that couldn't compensate enough.
His great redeeming quality as a motivator, in the sense to give crazy confidence to the mediocre was really good! Outstanding even, same type of motivational skill klopp has that conjures these crazy one off all in showings now and then. I watched a good few of his longer interviews and I believe he tried to make them all feel comfortable, confident and worked a lot on their sense of cohesion refering to it like a family unit and in the process cut them way too much slack. I particularly didn't rate some of these soft ideas, I hink they were a bit non meritocracy for my taste. These are highly paid professional players, they don't need coddling like that (inb4; not saying they need abuse) they need professional guidance and hard tactics and drilling.
In any pro organization worth it's salt you need to cut as much of the BS and go straight to the core. I maintain my stance Ole would have been an excellent club official or assistant of sorts because in essence his attributes in this area has certain qualities very beneficial to the organisation if done in modicum. He gave his all, but in his search for nostagiaDNA he lost the tactical battles much more than he won them.
Also let's not kid ourselves, we fans/supporters pay through the nose nowadays for 3 expensive services just to get full team coverage. These players get paid a premium apartment or a premium villa/house equivalent in salary ever 1-2 weeks. They fail in their attitude and professionalism so hard its abrasive. Looking at our forum and fans in general they are of every sort and some are just not as good at expressing their frustration, I leave it to the mod's good judgement what type of community they want.
I'm very happy ETH is inbound, but somewhat worried from interviews and reports that he seems like the kinda coach that wants players to eat more walnuts and basically is one step short of examining their poo for statistics (inb4; not hating on him, I love the nerdy holistic approach). Our players more seem like goners that suckled on the MUFC buffet for too long and gobbled their hunger down to 0 (or -100) complacency is at a maximum. ETH will have a challenging road reversing our squad attitude to that of what he likes unless he is backed HARD by the board, and I think to a huge extent this mindset 'rot' was due to Ole's style choice and clueless board going the non meritocracy road.
It certainly was! Put that cloister on the world map too.
Lets hope players and ex legends don't read the Caf as they not like what they see.
Any ex players still at the club is treated like the enemy and hasn't a clue, that's without getting into the abuse the current players get
Really excited for ETH to get started, though I haven't seen much of his teams beyond the odd Ajax CL performance. Change is sorely needed and hopefully he's the guy to lead it.
Remind me how close to the title were we when Ole finished 2nd?
Jose finished closer than whatever Ole has achieved in his stint. Plus he won some trophies and did not say trophies are for ego bullcrap.
Really hope we get his assistant as well. Some managers aren't the same when they dont have their trusted no2 with them when they go to a new club.
Agreed. Absolutely needs to bring in his own people.
Great. I just wish people would stick to the ETH theme ... since its a thread about ETH .... and not find any excuse to slag off a club legend.